Your PC ATM - Page 903

cdawall · Nov 27, 2012, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui

That's awesome! I took my first water rig out on a 10F day, let it cool down... just a little too long. Liquid partially froze, and ruined one of the redundant pumps. File that one under stupid.

That's why I run 25% antifreeze mix. Before I went to that I did have an incident that was similar luckily I was watching and notice it starting to freeze up.

Sasqui · Nov 27, 2012, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

That's why I run 25% antifreeze mix. Before I went to that I did have an incident that was similar luckily I was watching and notice it starting to freeze up.

Cool... literally! LOL

And smart. Thankfully, it didn't freeze everything solid and I used the same rig for another few years.

cdawall · Nov 27, 2012, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui

Cool... literally! LOL

And smart. Thankfully, it didn't freeze everything solid and I used the same rig for another few years.

I can't wait for my stinking CHVF to show up from Asus

See how well 3x GTX 470's and that phenom do.

Sasqui · Nov 27, 2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

CHVF to show up from Asus

What is CHVF ?

sneekypeet · Nov 27, 2012, 07:24 PM

CrossHair V (roman numeral for five) Formula

Good thing he didn't add the TB bit for Thunderbolt

t77snapshot · Nov 27, 2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonPig

Are FC3 going to sell any retail copies? It's bundled with every bloody item.

Lol! yes, on it's release date of Dec. 4th

de.das.dude · Nov 27, 2012, 07:50 PM

cdawall dude clean the dust

cdawall · Nov 27, 2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

cdawall dude clean the dust

If your talking about the case pic it's in pieces right now that's an old pic. The one of the v10 only the board is dusty so don't really care.

rainbow dash · Nov 27, 2012, 08:17 PM

here's mine atm

asrock z77 extreme4
intel i5 2500k w/ noctua nh-d14
zotac gtx 470 amp
2x4 gskill ripjawsx
gigabyte odin gt 800w
team xtreem s3 120gb
corsair force 3 60gb
cooler master haf 922 red
etc.

t77snapshot · Nov 27, 2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow dash

here's mine atm

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...3r-d5h61wn.jpg

asrock z77 extreme4
intel i5 2500k w/ noctua nh-d14
zotac gtx 470 amp
2x4 gskill ripjawsx
gigabyte odin gt 800w
team xtreem s3 120gb
corsair force 3 60gb
cooler master haf 922 red
etc.

Now that is a beautiful build my friend! I little overkill on the 140m's imo, but great cable management and overall clean rig! You got any more pics?? and please tell me your overclocking that 2500k?

ALMOSTunseen · Nov 27, 2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow dash

here's mine atm

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...3r-d5h61wn.jpg

asrock z77 extreme4
intel i5 2500k w/ noctua nh-d14
zotac gtx 470 amp
2x4 gskill ripjawsx
gigabyte odin gt 800w
team xtreem s3 120gb
corsair force 3 60gb
cooler master haf 922 red
etc.

Triple fans on the Noctua, he went there. Very,Very clean, Almost seems like its missing something.....

ALMOSTunseen · Nov 27, 2012, 08:49 PM

Anyone got a good parts list for a budget TEC setup? Would I be able to use my H100 to cool the hotplate?

brandonwh64 · Nov 27, 2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen

Anyone got a good parts list for a budget TEC setup? Would I be able to use my H100 to cool the hotplate?

I have a 125W tec 40MM^2

[Ion] · Nov 27, 2012, 09:01 PM

I figured I might as well snap a picture of my i7-920 rig as it stands ATM:

This is "Osnabruck" in my system specs (EVGA X58 3X SLI, i7-920, 3xHD7770)

Techtu · Nov 27, 2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

I figured I might as well snap a picture of my i7-920 rig as it stands ATM:
http://i.imgur.com/xH1fR.jpg
This is "Osnabruck" in my system specs (EVGA X58 3X SLI, i7-920, 3xHD7770)

I don't know why but for a moment I thought "WTF is he doing with an old IDE optical drive on top of your CPU cooler

... I'm none the wiser to what it is though?

t77snapshot · Nov 27, 2012, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

I figured I might as well snap a picture of my i7-920 rig as it stands ATM:
http://i.imgur.com/xH1fR.jpg
This is "Osnabruck" in my system specs (EVGA X58 3X SLI, i7-920, 3xHD7770)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techtu

I don't know why but for a moment I thought "WTF is he doing with an old IDE optical drive on top of your CPU cooler

... I'm none the wiser to what it is though?

I myself am wondering what that thing is too?

[Ion] · Nov 27, 2012, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techtu

I don't know why but for a moment I thought "WTF is he doing with an old IDE optical drive on top of your CPU cooler

... I'm none the wiser to what it is though?

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77snapshot

I myself am wondering what that thing is too?

It's the side fan bracket from a Lian-Li Rocketfish I had way back when:

Except, I have the fan on the outside--basically, it's to blow air over the CPU socket/VRMs/RAM to keep them cool. The reason I don't just have a fan sitting on top of the socket is this way it gets cooler air from outside the window

sneekypeet · Nov 27, 2012, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen

Anyone got a good parts list for a budget TEC setup? Would I be able to use my H100 to cool the hotplate?

You just need the TEC. CoolIt did it with much older and much shittier performing AIOs, don't see why the H100 wouldn't handle it. Make sure you got good fans and a way to keep the frost/moisture off the board. IIRC they were called the Freezone and Eliminator. Something else to consider is that if the TEC is too large, and for some reason the H100 pump would fail, things can melt!

cadaveca · Nov 27, 2012, 09:23 PM

The coolit units used the TECs to cool the coolant, not cool the CPU directly, just FYI. You should remember I hooked one into my H50 a couple of years ago.

Otherwise, I agree, H100 should be able to do it, and a 150W or so TEC should be adequate.

I am, actually, waiting for a TEC and PSU to arrive myself, as with IVB, it only seems natural to TEC cool, since they draw such small amounts of power, and seem to do well under cold, so the TIM used should not be an issue when doing so, too.

cdawall · Nov 27, 2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

The coolit units used the TECs to cool the coolant, not cool the CPU directly, just FYI. You should remember I hooked one into my H50 a couple of years ago.

Otherwise, I agree, H100 should be able to do it, and a 150W or so TEC should be adequate.

I am, actually, waiting for a TEC and PSU to arrive myself, as with IVB, it only seems natural to TEC cool, since they draw such small amounts of power, and seem to do well under cold, so the TIM used should not be an issue when doing so, too.

What Tec's are you grabbing?

cadaveca · Nov 27, 2012, 09:35 PM

Actually not sure on brand, ordered from local electrical supply store that I get all my goodies from. When to go pick up some pots for something else, made an impulse buy.

I was just flipping through the catalogue, saw one, and it just clicked.

cdawall · Nov 27, 2012, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Actually not sure on brand, ordered from local electrical supply store that I get all my goodies from. When to go pick up some pots for something else, made an impulse buy.

I was just flipping through the catalogue, saw one, and it just clicked.

What size are they?

cadaveca · Nov 27, 2012, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

What size are they?

40mm square, I think. 150 W @ ..uh..15 V? honestly I'd have ot look at my receipt, which is in my wife's purse, across town.

t77snapshot · Nov 27, 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

It's the side fan bracket from a Lian-Li Rocketfish I had way back when:
http://xsreviews.co.uk/modules/FCKed...20/sidefan.jpg
Except, I have the fan on the outside--basically, it's to blow air over the CPU socket/VRMs/RAM to keep them cool. The reason I don't just have a fan sitting on top of the socket is this way it gets cooler air from outside the window

Oh I see now, and I just noticed that 120 fan in the corner.. is that you window intake cooling solution?

[Ion] · Nov 27, 2012, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77snapshot

Oh I see now, and I just noticed that 120 fan in the corner.. is that you window intake cooling solution?

Indeed. I have 3 120mm fans running off of the PSU for the i7-860, then the radiator for the Antec WC kit just outside the window, and then the Lian Li fan bracket sucks a bit more air in. Otherwise, with 1,000w+ of computers in here it heats up mighty quick

System Name:	Deployment build
Processor:	Phenom II B97@4080mhz 1.6v (24/7 4800mhz max clock)
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair V Formula
Cooling:	Coolermaster V10 modded to 96w TEC, Scientific Rulian fans
Memory:	4x4GB Wintec ONE@1800 9-10-9 1.62v (24/7)
Video Card:	Sapphire 7950 3GB@1150/1400 1.27v
Hard Disk:	2x32GB STT SSD's raid 0, 1TB Samsung F3's, 1.5TB Seagate 7200.11
CRT/LCD Model:	STi 22"
Case:	Thermaltake Commandar MS-I Epic Edition
Sound Card:	E07K USB DAC->Fischer FA-002W High edition
PSU:	Antec TPQ-850 (Antec TPQ-1200 waiting for it at home)
Software:	windows 7 ultimate x64

System Name:	"Naked Ivy"
Processor:	i7-3570k Costa (4.7 Ghz 24/7), Now de-lidded and NAKED!
Motherboard:	GA-Z77X-UD5H (rev1.1)
Cooling:	SWTech 320 Rad, Modded 655 Pump, Koolance 345
Memory:	16GB 4x4 G.Skill CAS9 2133 Sniper
Video Card:	Powercolor HD 7870 (Core at 1200, 5% bump in voltage)
Hard Disk:	WD 320 / 500KS / 500KS / 640KS / 640LS / 640LS / 640LS / 1TBFAEX
Optical Drive:	LG DVD+-R
CRT/LCD Model:	24" DELL 2405FPW
Case:	Modded HAF 932
Sound Card:	Onboard + HD HDMI
PSU:	Corsair HX750 (love it)
Software:	Win 7 Ultimate
Benchmarks:	Almost stable @ 4.9 Ghz, working on benchies

System Name:	Deployment build
Processor:	Phenom II B97@4080mhz 1.6v (24/7 4800mhz max clock)
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair V Formula
Cooling:	Coolermaster V10 modded to 96w TEC, Scientific Rulian fans
Memory:	4x4GB Wintec ONE@1800 9-10-9 1.62v (24/7)
Video Card:	Sapphire 7950 3GB@1150/1400 1.27v
Hard Disk:	2x32GB STT SSD's raid 0, 1TB Samsung F3's, 1.5TB Seagate 7200.11
CRT/LCD Model:	STi 22"
Case:	Thermaltake Commandar MS-I Epic Edition
Sound Card:	E07K USB DAC->Fischer FA-002W High edition
PSU:	Antec TPQ-850 (Antec TPQ-1200 waiting for it at home)
Software:	windows 7 ultimate x64

System Name:	"Naked Ivy"
Processor:	i7-3570k Costa (4.7 Ghz 24/7), Now de-lidded and NAKED!
Motherboard:	GA-Z77X-UD5H (rev1.1)
Cooling:	SWTech 320 Rad, Modded 655 Pump, Koolance 345
Memory:	16GB 4x4 G.Skill CAS9 2133 Sniper
Video Card:	Powercolor HD 7870 (Core at 1200, 5% bump in voltage)
Hard Disk:	WD 320 / 500KS / 500KS / 640KS / 640LS / 640LS / 640LS / 1TBFAEX
Optical Drive:	LG DVD+-R
CRT/LCD Model:	24" DELL 2405FPW
Case:	Modded HAF 932
Sound Card:	Onboard + HD HDMI
PSU:	Corsair HX750 (love it)
Software:	Win 7 Ultimate
Benchmarks:	Almost stable @ 4.9 Ghz, working on benchies

Nov 27, 2012, 07:24 PM	#22555
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,023 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,041 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	CrossHair V (roman numeral for five) Formula Good thing he didn't add the TB bit for Thunderbolt __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

System Name:	His
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K Cooled with Swiftech Apogee Drive II
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus V Extreme
Cooling:	Swiftech MCR-320 Cooled With Corsair SP120 Fans
Memory:	4X4GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666 C11
Video Card:	Asus GTX680 Direct Cu II TOP
Hard Disk:	Corsair Force GT 180GB / Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB
Optical Drive:	- - - - - - -
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 40" 120hz LCD
Case:	SilverStone Temjin TJ11
Sound Card:	Realtek on board > Sony receiver > Cerwin Vega's
PSU:	Corsair AX1200
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64

System Name:	Freeman's Box (HL2 mod)
Processor:	Intel core i5 650@3.6Ghz
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus III Formula
Cooling:	ApogeeXT/EK pump/ 2 rads
Memory:	Kingston HyperX 2166 4Gb
Video Card:	Asus GTX 570 DCII 1.2Gb
Hard Disk:	Sam 840 250Gb, WD 640Gb
Optical Drive:	LG 22X DVD-CD Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	32" Samsung SyncMaster
Case:	NZXT Tempest Case
Sound Card:	Creative SupremeFX
PSU:	Corsair TX 750W
Software:	Win.7 Home Prem. x64
Benchmarks:	Good enough ;)

Nov 27, 2012, 07:50 PM	#22557
de.das.dude Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild East Posts: 4,610 (4.28/day) Thanks: 2,340 Thanked 1,344 Times in 921 Posts System Specs	cdawall dude clean the dust __________________ my wallet isnt hashwell compatiple sad face

System Name:	SuperDuperUberComputer
Processor:	AMD Phenom II 945 X4 3.0Ghz
Motherboard:	ASRock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling:	CM Hyper 212 EVO push:pull+ 1 panaflow 113CFM + 2 x 120mm NZXTs
Memory:	2x4GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9
Video Card:	GIGABYTE GTS450 OC2
Hard Disk:	SATA II 80GB Hitachi 7200RPM,W.D 500GB Green \|\| 4GB int + random SD cards
Optical Drive:	ASUS DVD drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung Sync Master 793s CRT\|
Case:	NZXT Guardian 921RB
Sound Card:	Realtek ALC892 with THX True Studio
PSU:	Corsair GS600
Software:	Windows 7 64bit
Benchmarks:	real men dont need to bench :p

Nov 27, 2012, 08:17 PM	#22559
rainbow dash Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: turkey izmir Posts: 8 (0.04/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	here's mine atm asrock z77 extreme4 intel i5 2500k w/ noctua nh-d14 zotac gtx 470 amp 2x4 gskill ripjawsx gigabyte odin gt 800w team xtreem s3 120gb corsair force 3 60gb cooler master haf 922 red etc. Last edited by rainbow dash; Nov 27, 2012 at 08:19 PM. Reason: added specs

System Name:	Desktop
Processor:	Intel Core i5 2500K 4.8ghz
Motherboard:	Asrock Z77 Extreme4
Cooling:	Noctua NH-D14
Memory:	G.Skill RipjawsX 2x4GB
Video Card:	Zotac GTX 470 AMP
Hard Disk:	Team Xtreem S3 120GB + Corsair Force 3 60GB + some hdds
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 47LS5600 47" - LG M2794D 27" - Philips 236V3LAB6/00 23" - LG W1952S 19"
Case:	Cooler Master Haf 922 Red
PSU:	Gigabyte Odin GT 800W

System Name:	The White Breeze\|\|Mr.Crunchy(HTPC/Cruncher)\|\|Medion Akoya Ultrabook
Processor:	i7-3770k\|\|i7-2600K\|\|Core i5-3317U
Motherboard:	MSI Z77 MPOWER\|\|Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3\|\|Laptop?
Cooling:	Corsair H100\|\|Cooler Master V8\|\|Laptop?
Memory:	16GB Kingston HyperX @ 2133MHz\|\|8GB Corsair Vengeance\|\|8GB SDRAM
Video Card:	MSI GeForce GTX 680 Lightning\|\|MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition\|\|Intel 4000
Hard Disk:	Corsair GT 120GB, WD Caviar Black 1TB\|\|OCZ 60gb SSD, WD Caviar Blue 1TB\|\|500GB HDD with 32 MSATA
Optical Drive:	LG 24x\|\|Liteon\|\|DVD drive interchangeable with 3 cell battery
CRT/LCD Model:	Medion 23" LED\|\|14" LED
Case:	NZXT Switch 810\|\|Antec 100\|\|Laptop shell?
Sound Card:	Gamecom USB 7.1 virtual surround Sound\|\|Dolby Home Theatre V4
PSU:	Seasonic XP-860 Platinum\|\|Antec High Current Pro 750w\|\|Laptop Power Brick
Software:	Windows 7\|\|Windows 7\|\|Windows 8

Nov 27, 2012, 08:49 PM	#22562
ALMOSTunseen Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sydney,Australia Posts: 675 (2.60/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 275 Times in 190 Posts System Specs	Anyone got a good parts list for a budget TEC setup? Would I be able to use my H100 to cool the hotplate?

System Name:	The StarCrunch Defender!
Processor:	I7 2600K @ 4.5ghz 1.32V
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Cooling:	Corsair A70 Push/Pull
Memory:	G-Skill Ripjaws 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz
Video Card:	Gigabyte 7970 3GB Reference Card at boost clocks
Hard Disk:	2x 500GB WD Blue Raid 0 / 1TB WD Black
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD/R/RW SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	ViewSonic VG2227wm 1080P
Case:	NZXT Tempest 410 Elite
Sound Card:	Onboard Realtek (Azalia)
PSU:	Corsair 750TX
Software:	Windows 7 Home X64

Nov 27, 2012, 09:01 PM	#22564
[Ion] WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 10,680 (7.92/day) Thanks: 8,256 Thanked 9,352 Times in 4,268 Posts System Specs	I figured I might as well snap a picture of my i7-920 rig as it stands ATM: This is "Osnabruck" in my system specs (EVGA X58 3X SLI, i7-920, 3xHD7770) __________________ Ion's WCG Essentials Thread Crunching (64 Threads + 896 CUDA Cores + 6272 Shaders): i3-2100@ 3.1 + HD7850 -- Atom D510 @ 1.66 -- C2D-M T9600 @ 2.8 -- i7-3612QM @ 2.8 -- i7-860 @ 2.9 + HD7950 -- i7-2700k @ 4.4 + 2xGTX470 -- PentDC-M T4200 @ 2.0 -- i7-920 @ 3.83 + 3xHD7770 -- DP Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 + HD7930 -- E1600 @ 2.4

System Name:	Peenemunde/Salzburg/Osnabruck/Rostock/
Processor:	i7-860 @ 2.9GHz / i7-2700k @ 4.4GHz / i7-920 @ 3.83GHz / Core i3-2100
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus III Gene / Asus Maximus IV Gene / EVGA X58 SLI / Asus P8H77-I
Cooling:	Xigmatek Gaia / Xigmatek Gaia / Antec H2O-620 / Stock
Memory:	4x2GB G.SKILL / 2x4GB Crucial / 1x2GB Corsair / 2x4GB G.SKILL
Video Card:	Powercolor HD7930 / PNY GTX470 + nV GTX470 SLI / 3x MSI Radeon HD7770 GHz Edition / Sapphire HD7950
Hard Disk:	Western Digital 320GB / Western Digital 320GB / Western Digital 250GB / 320GB
Optical Drive:	None
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus VH242H (23.6")
Case:	None / NZXT Source 210 / NZXT Source 210 / Cooler Master Elite 120
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Antec TruePower New 650w / Antec TPN 650w / Antec Earthwatts 650w / Antec 430w
Software:	Windows 7 Professional x64

System Name:	Robocop VII
Processor:	AMD 1090T
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling:	Corsair H80 w/ 2x NZXT FZ 120mm + 3x NZXT FZ 140mm's
Memory:	2x 4Gb Crucial Ballistix Tactical PC3-14900
Video Card:	Sapphire HD 7950 FLEX DUAL-X 3Gb
Hard Disk:	120Gb OCZ Agility 3 + 2x 500Gb WD Blue (raid 0) + 1Tb WD Green + 2x 500Gb 1x 240Gb External
Optical Drive:	TSST Corp SH - S223C
CRT/LCD Model:	LG Flatron W2253TQ-PF + LG 37LF65
Case:	NZXT Phantom 410 Gun Metal
Sound Card:	SupremeFX X-Fi + Samsung HT-C450 via SPDIF
PSU:	Cooler Master 1000w Silent Pro Modular.
Software:	Win 8 Pro 64bit.

Nov 27, 2012, 09:23 PM	#22569
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,791 (4.15/day) Thanks: 4,510 Thanked 5,252 Times in 3,221 Posts System Specs	The coolit units used the TECs to cool the coolant, not cool the CPU directly, just FYI. You should remember I hooked one into my H50 a couple of years ago. Otherwise, I agree, H100 should be able to do it, and a 150W or so TEC should be adequate. I am, actually, waiting for a TEC and PSU to arrive myself, as with IVB, it only seems natural to TEC cool, since they draw such small amounts of power, and seem to do well under cold, so the TIM used should not be an issue when doing so, too. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

System Name:	Eyefinity Gamer
Processor:	Intel i5 3570K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximmus V Formula
Cooling:	Corsair H100
Memory:	16 GB G.Skill F3-2666C11Q-16GTXD
Video Card:	AMD Radeon HD7950 3GB x2 w/AMD Catalyst 12.10
Hard Disk:	OCZ Nocti 60GB mSATA, Crucial M4 120GB x2
Optical Drive:	LG BluRay/HD-DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	3x Dell U2412M
Case:	LianLi T60
Sound Card:	N/A
PSU:	Silverstone Strider 750W GOLD
Software:	Windows 8 Pro
Benchmarks:	Benchmarking is for suckers. ;)

Nov 27, 2012, 09:35 PM	#22571
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,791 (4.15/day) Thanks: 4,510 Thanked 5,252 Times in 3,221 Posts System Specs	Actually not sure on brand, ordered from local electrical supply store that I get all my goodies from. When to go pick up some pots for something else, made an impulse buy. I was just flipping through the catalogue, saw one, and it just clicked. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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