The TPU UK Clubhouse

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by KieranD

I love how you post and go off on a deviant Cheesy.

LOL i have medical reasons for not picking up on sarcasm *aspergers ftw but only sometimes.

EDIT: I raise your epic fail ice truck escapade
http://img.techpowerup.org/110706/shipment_of_fail.jpg

i can better that

[KieranD]

YOU WIN! Have some of googles finest.


What i meant was your posts tend to deviate, like how it starts of one thing and ends up another. Its just an observation.

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by KieranD

YOU WIN! Have some of googles finest.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110706/cookies.jpg

What i meant was your posts tend to deviate, like how it starts of one thing and ends up another. Its just an observation.

i've been described by some as random, i'm going to take it your doing the same

and i had a bigger win lined up if you'd of countered me, but here it is anyway

[TheMailMan78]

This is news over here in the states. Gotta love old school Europe. Anyway NOT A TROLL.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43653402...d_news-europe/

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

This is news over here in the states. Gotta love old school Europe. Anyway NOT A TROLL.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43653402...d_news-europe/

no one ever said we were fast...

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by cheesy999

no one ever said we were fast...

Meh you hung the bitch that did it. Thats why I like old school Europe. Those guys didn't play.

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Meh you hung the bitch that did it. Thats why I like old school Europe. Those guys didn't play.

BTW we don't hang people now, just put them in jail for a few months/years

and don't bunch us in with Europe, its only the UK that makes no sense when it does anything, some german guy at the train station moaned that the notice board said the train was 1 minute late and then moaned when it came 3 mins early

[scaminatrix]

In David Attenborough's garden? Don't make me laugh.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by cheesy999

BTW we don't hang people now, just put them in jail for a few months/years

and don't bunch us in with Europe, its only the UK that makes no sense when it does anything, some german guy at the train station moaned that the notice board said the train was 1 minute late and then moaned when it came 3 mins early

Thats my point. You guys didn't used to be pussies. What happen?

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Thats my point. You guys didn't used to be pussies. What happen?

we decided to start doing awesome stuff for no reason and blaming the failures on america

EDIT:AWESOME FILM ALERT!!!

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by cheesy999

we decided to start doing awesome stuff for no reason and blaming the failures on america

Ah ok so you are Democrats now!

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Ah ok so you are Democrats now!

What does that mean?

we hate the liberals after they got into a coalition with the cons and abandoned all of their election manifesto

so i'm guessing your talking of a party we don't have here...

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Thats my point. You guys didn't used to be pussies. What happen?

Innocent people got killed, after a while the general population start getting twitchy, especially if their neighbours start ending up on some funny chair, you know where they think they are going to be questioned about something when all of a sudden some guy in a uniform throws a switch, the national grid goes down for a couple of seconds and when the light comes back on all there is left on the chair is an eyeball with a note, on reading the note it said "pfffftt the yanks did it!"

We decided in the late 50's that enough was enough, we would much rather abolish the death penalty and just let our good old police force kill anybody who gets on the underground sweaty with a tan..... saves the government all that negative PR.

[TheMailMan78]

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

in the Uk the police have a tendency to shoot criminals especially near the tube

EDIT:here it is http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/no-...435141706.html

[theoneandonlymrk]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

yeh on a worldwide level plus chemical castration for kids of dropout parents(them castrated too) ,save me some tax when im 60

and do you call a choice of 2/3 effit 5 once every 4-5 years, then they do what they want and finnish with a big fuck yall day of approving shit laws, democracy lmao for us all

[MightyMission]

the problem is not that the people are afraid to openly kangaroo court on some paedo's and rapists/traffic wardens etc,its that the people who make the laws are the worst offenders.

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

Whilst personally I am a supporter of the death penality (we actually still do have the death penalty in the Armed Forces for 3 offences), statistics show that some people get wrongly convicted..... thats a few dozen innocent dead people a year!

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Whilst personally I am a supporter of the death penality (we actually still do have the death penalty in the Armed Forces for 3 offences), statistics show that some people get wrongly convicted..... thats a few dozen innocent dead people a year!

Oh I know. And I get ya. But this isn't the 19th century anymore when it comes to forensics. DNA, ballistic forensics (Which you and I both know some about) are day and night to what they were just 20 years ago. Times have changed and the chance of error is much smaller.

Bring back the example of death. The burden on society is much greater when scum lives. That money could be better spent on prevention programs in lower income areas.

In the US I read that it takes up to 120,000 a year to maintain one prisoner in a maximum security prison. Some of these guys are in for life. Why should we spend 2 million+ dollars for 20 years of the remainder of his life for him to contribute nothing? That money could be far better spent on programs to prevent children from growing up like him.

[theoneandonlymrk]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Whilst personally I am a supporter of the death penality (we actually still do have the death penalty in the Armed Forces for 3 offences), statistics show that some people get wrongly convicted..... thats a few dozen innocent dead people a year!

a valid point but if 10 years in jails worth of appeals dosnt save them and the proof is beyond doubt, deep tho

im gental at heart but feel that the extreem should be met with the extreem so id probably go with some capital punishment based on an lol evil review court or sumat

[WhiteLotus]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Oh I know. And I get ya. But this isn't the 19th century anymore when it comes to forensics. DNA, ballistic forensics (Which you and I both know some about) are day and night to what they were just 20 years ago. Times have changed and the chance of error is much smaller.

Bring back the example of death. The burden on society is much greater when scum lives. That money could be better spent on prevention programs in lower income areas.

In the US I read that it takes up to 120,000 a year to maintain one prisoner in a maximum security prison. Some of these guys are in for life. Why should we spend 2 million+ dollars for 20 years of the remainder of his life for him to contribute nothing? That money could be far better spent on programs to prevent children from growing up like him.

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

[Spectrum]

bah! those images are old.

[InnocentCriminal]

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

I agree. The really f'ing evil cunts (paedos, rapists et al) should be tested on, instead of animals imo. I hate animal testing and I hate these sort of cock'eads; makes sense to me really. Human rights... pffft!

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

Pedophiles and career criminals do not change. Have you ever seen the stats at where a pedophile commits another crime after being "rehabilitated"? It was almost 98% back in 1997. Really who cares if someone "changes" if they rapped 20+ children or if a scumbag kills a family for a gang initiation? What do they "change" to and why should society care at that point?

The damage they have already done will be felt for generations. Supporting them for decades to come takes the chance away from children who could use the guidance that money could have provided them. So in essence you are perpetuating the problem for generations by not solving it with the ease of an injection or the pull of a trigger.

As for a Biblical take on it I don't think you wanna go there. A) Tatty will have to do some serious cleaning in just a few posts. B) I can show you dozens of examples in the Bible where capital punishment is not only allowed but sanctioned by the almighty himself.

Personally I am looking at this from a logical point of view. Why should a society support someone convicted of a crime and condemned to serve a life sentence? Its like getting a cancer and putting a band aid on it. No its better to cut it out so that the wound may heal and promote growth. Same thing with capital punishment. Why should tax money go to support something that gives nothing back in return when, supporting education has proven to reduce crime? Why?

[erocker]

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system

That gets expensive really fast.