Gainward Non-reference Radeon HD 4870 Fresh out

btarunr · Aug 18, 2008, 08:59 PM

Gainward, a subsidiary of Palit Microsystems presented a set of pictures of its non-reference HD 4870. It will share this design with the Palit Radeon HD 4870 Sonic. Gainward sought aggressive cooling and overclocking for this card. The card will continue to feature 512 MB of GDDR5 memory. This card features dual-BIOS, a BIOS maintains 750 MHz / 950 MHz core and memory parameters, while a second high-performance BIOS ups these frequencies to 775 MHz / 1000MHz. Presumably this mechanism brings about redundancy with the BIOS, a boon for overclockers as accidental damage to the card due to tweaking the BIOS could be easily resolved.

As you can see from the first picture, the card features a DisplayPort on the card apart from two DVI connectors, there is no air-outlet on the bracket-plate. The second picture shows the cooler, it features two fans of dissimilar sizes. An 80 mm fan blows air over the GPU / memory area while a smaller 70 mm fan blows air directly over the VRM area. Under the hood of this cooler is the cooler which consists of a GPU-block from which three aluminum heatpipes project. These pipes convey heat through the fins on which the fans blow air.

On to the electronics of this card, you can see a non-reference PCB, the two 6-pin PCI-E power inputs are angled and pushed on to the side (a-là Radeon HD 2900 XT) unlike the reference PCB. The PCB fuels the card with 4 phases for the GPU and 2 phases for the memory. Speaking of memory, the card uses GDDR5 chips made by Qimonda.

Source: Expreview

[I.R.A]_FBi · Aug 18, 2008, 09:15 PM

i think i just skeeted. this is secksee.

jbunch07 · Aug 18, 2008, 09:46 PM

agreed. i do like this.
very nice indeed.

WarEagleAU · Aug 18, 2008, 09:56 PM

Aluminum pipes though, thats a ding for me. and the core isnt as high as I think they could get. Maybe its just the new architecture though.

jbunch07 · Aug 18, 2008, 10:04 PM

yea the aluminum pipes are somewhat disappointing, i think its a good design though.

Wile E · Aug 18, 2008, 10:13 PM

I sure hope the 4850 Sonic shares the same power circuits. 4 phases are gonna be beastly on these things.

Scrizz · Aug 18, 2008, 10:48 PM

looks sweet

[I.R.A]_FBi · Aug 18, 2008, 11:16 PM

i hope this is the gainward 4850, minus the gddr5 of course

Darknova · Aug 19, 2008, 12:31 AM

I want that VRM heatsink....that thing looks like it will cool well and that's the one huge downside of current aftermarket coolers.

Looks like a really good card though

Mussels · Aug 19, 2008, 01:08 AM

it looks like a good card/cooler.

2x DVI + HDMI is a good output set - and aluminium fins or not, 70mm+80mm will keep those temps down.

tkpenalty · Aug 19, 2008, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darknova

I want that VRM heatsink....that thing looks like it will cool well and that's the one huge downside of current aftermarket coolers.

Looks like a really good card though

Err it uses mosfets fyi...

Six phase.... mem phases on left, 4 VGPU on right. Awesome.

Gainward are clearly showing their new love for AMD.

btarunr · Aug 19, 2008, 06:07 AM

That's actually Palit cashing in on ATI-love that's in the air. People almost want to sleep next to their ATI cards these days.

Darknova · Aug 19, 2008, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

Err it uses mosfets fyi...

Six phase.... mem phases on left, 4 VGPU on right. Awesome.

Gainward are clearly showing their new love for AMD.

Hmm...I'd prefer the VRMs that the 4870 uses, more stable voltage supply, BUT I do concede that VRMs need a large amount of cooling, and currently we're severly lacking in that department (aftermarket).

tigger · Aug 19, 2008, 09:42 AM

Could them heatpipes be nickel plated copper?

btarunr · Aug 19, 2008, 10:31 AM

Thanks for the edit, W1z.

This card uses DisplayPort and there's a pic of the cooler without the hood/fans The memory chips look bare

:

^See that switch? When the system is powered-off, you can use the switch make the card boot from another BIOS. So the card holds a backup BIOS, if you wish, or an OC'ed and a stock BIOS.

tigger · Aug 19, 2008, 12:42 PM

Pics are not showing bud

btarunr · Aug 19, 2008, 12:45 PM

Rehosted. How about now?

Mussels · Aug 19, 2008, 12:51 PM

they showed fine for me initially, and now as well.

mdm-adph · Aug 19, 2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

i think i just skeeted. this is secksee.

Your use of four year old slang troubles me.

But a cool card, though, long as the price isn't too high.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Aug 19, 2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm-adph

Your use of four year old slang troubles me.

But a cool card, though, long as the price isn't too high.

it isnt a slang, its a way of life

jbunch07 · Aug 19, 2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Thanks for the edit, W1z.

^See that switch? When the system is powered-off, you can use the switch make the card boot from another BIOS. So the card holds a backup BIOS, if you wish, or an OC'ed and a stock BIOS.

now that is a nice feature!

Elijah86 · Aug 19, 2008, 02:29 PM

Thats one clean looking card.

tkpenalty · Aug 19, 2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darknova

Hmm...I'd prefer the VRMs that the 4870 uses, more stable voltage supply, BUT I do concede that VRMs need a large amount of cooling, and currently we're severly lacking in that department (aftermarket).

Thats argueable. VRMs basically drain much more power just to achieve that and waste MUCH more heat.

dsdavis6 · Aug 19, 2008, 03:05 PM

hmm this may well make my 8800gt redundant if its reasonably priced

mdm-adph · Aug 19, 2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

it isnt a slang, its a way of life

Yeah, so was "2 legit 2 quit."

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