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Old Sep 28, 2008, 06:17 AM   #1
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Overclocking Danger..

Please do not answer a question i dont ask.. I KNOW overclocking ban be dangerous if you do not know what to do. This is the question... If overclocked PROPERLY does it affect life of the product? Yes i Have used search. Thank you.
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Old Sep 28, 2008, 06:27 AM   #2
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depends on the kinds of overclock, and the voltages as well. If you have a seriously high voltage it can affect the life of the cpu. That is why you have to find a stable 24/7 overclock with fair voltages.

But it wont affect it that much it would take a couple years for it to degrade which i doubt a user will own a cpu for that long.
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Old Sep 28, 2008, 06:29 AM   #3
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It affects hardware slightly, but if it's not super extreme then it shouldn't die for a good while.
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Old Sep 28, 2008, 06:30 AM   #4
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Define overclocked properly, a lot of people take that as a different meaning by different levels of speed, voltage, temps, cooling, etc.

Really I have yet to have a CPU die that I have OC'd. I suppose it also depends on the product and quality of the product in question, of course cheaper components will fade out and fail sooner than better quality/cooled components that are more up to the task for the long term.

Way too many variables for such a vague quesition, but considering any modern electronic product has a lifespan, be it a few hours or hundreds of years, if you stress it more, it will fail sooner. So, then taking that into account, overclocking would add stress, speed, heat, etc, yes eventually whatever you overclock will fail, and probably sooner than if left at stock. Odds are it'll be long gone out of your ownership when that happens, or no longer in use to fail due to more updated products having been released in the years since you had overclocked said product.

I could go on and on really, but I think ya get the point. Short answer, even proper overclocked (depends on definition and many different variables), yes...the products life will be shortened, might not be much, might never happen while you own it, or the next 10 people down the line depending on how far, how hot and how much voltage. But in the same instance, unless going for WR benches or running 1.8v through a 45nm processor, you won't really be able to know just by how much you shortened the lifespan of said product.

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Old Sep 28, 2008, 06:54 AM   #5
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I read somewhere that if you and to keep your PC functional for over 3 years OCing is not adviced..
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i owned lots of different cpu's and i oc them all, and not once i had any of them burnt out on me
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hardware doesnt die from overclocking. Hardware dies from stupidity, such as insane voltages (if its 1.30v stock and you run 2.0v, yeah, you're gunna kill it), insane temps (if load on the stock cooler is 60C, get better cooling and keep your OC'd load at 60C or less!)

I have never, ever had hardware die from overclocking. I have had numerous hardware die from screwups when OCing (plugging things in backwards, missing a screw, forgetting thermal paste... noob mistakes)
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only risky think in overclock is voltage try keep away from voltage in the begging and got some scale and after that try know max voltage for your cpu and increase it a little bit
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You guys talking about how it effects an overclocked CPU but what about the memory?

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My pc6200 4-4-4-12 2.1~2.3V , have it running @ 1000MHz 2.1V 5-5-5-15 now, would that shorten the life of ddr2?
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You guys talking about how it effects an overclocked CPU but what about the memory?

For example:
My pc6200 4-4-4-12 2.1~2.3V , have it running @ 1000MHz 2.1V 5-5-5-15 now, would that shorten the life of ddr2?
from what i know, 2.3V and under doesnt do any long term damage as long as its not overheating.
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from what i know, 2.3V and under doesnt do any long term damage as long as its not overheating.

And which temperature would you consider overheating?
What would be the average max temp they could run a "lifetime"?

My own ram runs idle 40-45 degrees C and can run up to a little over 50C on load when I don't use the airco here.
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And which temperature would you consider overheating?
What would be the average max temp they could run a "lifetime"?

My own ram runs idle 40-45 degrees C and can run up to a little over 50C on load when I don't use the airco here.
you missed what i said, congradulations on reading half my post. I beleive i stated that you should pay attention to load temps on the stock cooler, and keep them under that. If its 40C at stock, keep it under 40. if its 90C at stock, keep it under 90.
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congradulations on reading half my post

Thanks man
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