paulieg's first watercooling adventure, help wanted! - Page 2

Wile E · Oct 10, 2008, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

So, you don't use a fillport? If not, when filling the first time, do you just put water/coolant in the res?

Yep, just put it straight in the res.

Sonido · Oct 10, 2008, 05:30 AM

Depending on how you are going to test your WC system for leaks, you might want to put some light colored paper near ports. This way, if you walk out for a while, you can come back and see where and how much is leaking.

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 12:40 PM

If I mount the Rad to the top inside the case, then mount fans to the Rad, should the airflow move in the direction of the Rad and out of the case, or do I want to be pulling air in?

Oct 10, 2008, 12:53 PM

you want it to be pushing the air through the rad and out the case. That way it will also help case temps.

tigger · Oct 10, 2008, 01:30 PM

When i got my gpu block,i decided to go for a t-line and have no res,i am impressed with the way it turned out.It is completely clear with no bubbles now,it took about 2hrs for the air to bleed out.I have a fill port on the top of my case.I found it was noisier with the res because the pump pushes the water back into the tank so fast.

I also test mine with the atx 24pin and the 6pin pci-e leads disconnected.Some psu dont like running with no load.

EDIT-My loop is pump-cpu-gpu-rad-pump by the way,and the t piece for the t-line is between the rad and pump.

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Your case is designed to have a radiator on top or bottom since you can put the PSU either place. You also have a fillport on top of the case you should try mounting the res under.

Per reviews, the fillport placement and design is the one weakness of this case. I think I'll probably skip the fillport all together. Trying to keep this first attempt as simple as possible.

tigger · Oct 10, 2008, 02:01 PM

If your pump has a rpm detector wire,connect it to the cpu fan header.It stops my board whinging coz the cpu fan is not on,and some boards can shut the pc down if the cpu fan rpm drops to zero.

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 02:20 PM

Can someone with a rad installed on the inside top of the case post some pics?

rampage · Oct 10, 2008, 02:36 PM

paulieg i have a cosmos 1000 case and a 360mm rad installed in the top of the case, i am at work at the moment and will need sleep when i get home but later today if noone else has posted anything ill post some pics to try an dhelp you out

or are you just after info on your particular case?

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rampage

paulieg i have a cosmos 1000 case and a 360mm rad installed in the top of the case, i am at work at the moment and will need sleep when i get home but later today if noone else has posted anything ill post some pics to try an dhelp you out

or are you just after info on your particular case?

Actually, it would be great if you posted some pics. I just want to get a visual on how people are setting up their loops with a rad on the top.

rampage · Oct 10, 2008, 02:46 PM

yeah no worries i can do that. i was lucky with my case as it had room for 2 X 120mm fans in the top so all i had to do was some minor cutting to the case and just used 4 of the fan mount holes from one of the 120mm mount to mount my top rad...

have you got any idars on how you will be mounting your pump, that is my biggest issue atm because after installing a 1000w psu i have ran out of room at the bottom of my case and the pump is free floating (just hanging around).. i guess what im trying to say is when you do install your loop just keep future upgrads in mind as its hard to move things around once there bolted to the case

**EDIT** here is a link to a earlier pic of my case, its low quality and dosnt show how the rad is mounted for now but its somthing (pic is in first post)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=63455

tigger · Oct 10, 2008, 02:50 PM

PaulieG,how about putting your psu in the top and the rad at the bottom? there is already 2x120mm holes in the bottom for the rad,plus it means no cutting.

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

PaulieG,how about putting your psu in the top and the rad at the bottom? there is already 2x120mm holes in the bottom for the rad,plus it means no cutting.

Cutting? The top of this case also has the holes to mount a rad.

tigger · Oct 10, 2008, 02:59 PM

Oh,i thought it had a single big fan on the top

mrw1986 · Oct 10, 2008, 02:59 PM

Jeesh Paulie, you almost have as many questions as I did! Once you setup watercooling for the first time though, the next time is a breeze, trust me!

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

Oh,i thought it had a single big fan on the top

Yeah, the big fan is removable, and holes are pre drilled for either 2 120mm fans or a rad.

tigger · Oct 10, 2008, 03:26 PM

Aah right.

Heres a little pic of my loop,had to use the webcam *shudder*

Sonido · Oct 10, 2008, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle2020

you want it to be pushing the air through the rad and out the case. That way it will also help case temps.

The major problem with this is; if your case temps are high, your rad wouldn't be properly cooled. All the heat from the case will be pushed onto the rad. That was one of my concerns, when I choose my case. You might want one fan pointing outward away from the rad for hot spots.

In pure Rocky fashion, I will say this.

Hey, Yo! Paulie. I love you, man.

Binge · Oct 10, 2008, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonido

The major problem with this is; if your case temps are high, your rad wouldn't be properly cooled. All the heat from the case will be pushed onto the rad. That was one of my concerns, when I choose my case. You might want one fan pointing outward away from the rad for hot spots.

In pure Rocky fashion, I will say this.

Hey, Yo! Paulie. I love you man. High Five

Yes! Completely the point I was trying to make in one of my other posts. I saw some guy say case temps go DOWN when you use a rad on the exhaust? On the contrary, the case temps will go up and so will your water temps. Hot air rises but having a rad poking through the top is not bad as long as their is good exhaust on your case! I used a fully external rad.

Paulieg · Oct 10, 2008, 11:31 PM

LOL. I want to quote that in my sig, ok?

Sonido · Oct 10, 2008, 11:38 PM

That is fine by me. Also, after you are done with the setup, check temps for inconsistency. It can show if your water isn't being cooled properly.

Sonido · Oct 11, 2008, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

Yes! Completely the point I was trying to make in one of my other posts. I saw some guy say case temps go DOWN when you use a rad on the exhaust? On the contrary, the case temps will go up and so will your water temps. Hot air rises but having a rad poking through the top is not bad as long as their is good exhaust on your case! I used a fully external rad.

That's why I love my case. It has an internal platform for a rad and/or res. Antec calls it a "Water Cooling Platform". The three fans in the front push in cool air; push it through the rad; and exhausts it using the fans (two back, and the monster on top). If you can, Paulie, you might want to see if that is possible. Although, if your case isn't well vented in the first place, it will not be a good idea.

Paulieg · Oct 11, 2008, 01:16 PM

I'm moving this to a project log, since my parts will be here on Tuesday.

DOM · Oct 11, 2008, 03:13 PM

you know that case has a Easy access to liquid coolant fill port ?

Paulieg · Oct 11, 2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOM

you know that case has a Easy access to liquid coolant fill port ?

Yeah, but the reviews say that fillport is almost useless the way it's designed. That's been the only knock on an otherwise brilliant case.

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Oct 10, 2008, 12:40 PM	#28
Paulieg The Mad Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wherever I can find the iron. Posts: 11,448 (5.00/day) Thanks: 2,519 Thanked 3,054 Times in 2,098 Posts System Specs	If I mount the Rad to the top inside the case, then mount fans to the Rad, should the airflow move in the direction of the Rad and out of the case, or do I want to be pulling air in? __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." -Henry Rollins My heatware Save lives by joining the TPU WCG team!

Oct 10, 2008, 01:30 PM	#30
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,212 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 951 Times in 780 Posts System Specs	When i got my gpu block,i decided to go for a t-line and have no res,i am impressed with the way it turned out.It is completely clear with no bubbles now,it took about 2hrs for the air to bleed out.I have a fill port on the top of my case.I found it was noisier with the res because the pump pushes the water back into the tank so fast. I also test mine with the atx 24pin and the 6pin pci-e leads disconnected.Some psu dont like running with no load. EDIT-My loop is pump-cpu-gpu-rad-pump by the way,and the t piece for the t-line is between the rad and pump. __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html Last edited by tigger; Oct 10, 2008 at 01:40 PM.

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Oct 10, 2008, 05:30 AM	#27
Sonido Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 349 (0.20/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts System Specs	Depending on how you are going to test your WC system for leaks, you might want to put some light colored paper near ports. This way, if you walk out for a while, you can come back and see where and how much is leaking.

Oct 10, 2008, 12:53 PM	#29
kyle2020 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	you want it to be pushing the air through the rad and out the case. That way it will also help case temps.

Oct 10, 2008, 02:01 PM	#32
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,212 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 951 Times in 780 Posts System Specs	If your pump has a rpm detector wire,connect it to the cpu fan header.It stops my board whinging coz the cpu fan is not on,and some boards can shut the pc down if the cpu fan rpm drops to zero. __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html

Oct 10, 2008, 02:20 PM	#33
Paulieg The Mad Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wherever I can find the iron. Posts: 11,448 (5.00/day) Thanks: 2,519 Thanked 3,054 Times in 2,098 Posts System Specs	Can someone with a rad installed on the inside top of the case post some pics? __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." -Henry Rollins My heatware Save lives by joining the TPU WCG team!

Oct 10, 2008, 02:36 PM	#34
rampage Join Date: May 2007 Location: Port Fairy, Victoria, Australia Posts: 801 (0.37/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 72 Times in 67 Posts System Specs	paulieg i have a cosmos 1000 case and a 360mm rad installed in the top of the case, i am at work at the moment and will need sleep when i get home but later today if noone else has posted anything ill post some pics to try an dhelp you out or are you just after info on your particular case? __________________ Torrent - Zotac Nano 320gb Hdd, 4 Gb, 42' plasma"

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Oct 10, 2008, 02:46 PM	#36
rampage Join Date: May 2007 Location: Port Fairy, Victoria, Australia Posts: 801 (0.37/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 72 Times in 67 Posts System Specs	yeah no worries i can do that. i was lucky with my case as it had room for 2 X 120mm fans in the top so all i had to do was some minor cutting to the case and just used 4 of the fan mount holes from one of the 120mm mount to mount my top rad... have you got any idars on how you will be mounting your pump, that is my biggest issue atm because after installing a 1000w psu i have ran out of room at the bottom of my case and the pump is free floating (just hanging around).. i guess what im trying to say is when you do install your loop just keep future upgrads in mind as its hard to move things around once there bolted to the case EDIT here is a link to a earlier pic of my case, its low quality and dosnt show how the rad is mounted for now but its somthing (pic is in first post) http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=63455 __________________ Torrent - Zotac Nano 320gb Hdd, 4 Gb, 42' plasma"

Oct 10, 2008, 02:50 PM	#37
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,212 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 951 Times in 780 Posts System Specs	PaulieG,how about putting your psu in the top and the rad at the bottom? there is already 2x120mm holes in the bottom for the rad,plus it means no cutting. __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html

Oct 10, 2008, 02:59 PM	#39
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,212 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 951 Times in 780 Posts System Specs	Oh,i thought it had a single big fan on the top __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html

Oct 10, 2008, 02:59 PM	#40
mrw1986 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wallingford, CT Posts: 1,997 (0.90/day) Thanks: 122 Thanked 338 Times in 260 Posts System Specs	Jeesh Paulie, you almost have as many questions as I did! Once you setup watercooling for the first time though, the next time is a breeze, trust me! __________________ Visit TechFuzion.net My Heatware

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Oct 10, 2008, 03:26 PM	#42
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,212 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 951 Times in 780 Posts System Specs	Aah right. Heres a little pic of my loop,had to use the webcam shudder __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html Last edited by tigger; Oct 11, 2008 at 12:26 PM.

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Oct 10, 2008, 11:31 PM	#45
Paulieg The Mad Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wherever I can find the iron. Posts: 11,448 (5.00/day) Thanks: 2,519 Thanked 3,054 Times in 2,098 Posts System Specs	LOL. I want to quote that in my sig, ok? __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." -Henry Rollins My heatware Save lives by joining the TPU WCG team!

Oct 10, 2008, 11:38 PM	#46
Sonido Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 349 (0.20/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts System Specs	That is fine by me. Also, after you are done with the setup, check temps for inconsistency. It can show if your water isn't being cooled properly.

Oct 11, 2008, 01:16 PM	#48
Paulieg The Mad Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wherever I can find the iron. Posts: 11,448 (5.00/day) Thanks: 2,519 Thanked 3,054 Times in 2,098 Posts System Specs	I'm moving this to a project log, since my parts will be here on Tuesday. __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." -Henry Rollins My heatware Save lives by joining the TPU WCG team!

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