e7300 or e6750

Pinchy · Oct 28, 2008, 11:27 PM

For my matx rig, should I keep the e6750 it has in there or get a new e7300 for it?

Things to note:

1. It is a matx, so the cooler the better!
2. What I plan on doing is selling my e6750 to a friend for however much the e7300 costs. If I keep the e6750, I will buy an e7300 for her.
3. She will not overclock at all, with either chip she will remain at stock.
4. I can overclock if I want to, but the matx rig generally stays at stock settings 24/7
5. My matx is used to play occasional games such as source games and the new RA3 when its released, hers simply plays the sims lol.

Thats all I can think of. The e6750 is worth more around here, but I dont mind going for a new chip (just to see what i can get out of it

).

I know the e6750 is faster (FSB, little bit more cache, etc) but the e7300 has a high multi, and I am sure I can get it to 1333FSB (3.33GHz) easily.

What do you think

Kursah · Oct 28, 2008, 11:32 PM

That's a tough call...both are good chips, decent clockers, cool runners, but of course the 45nm will run cooler, even if the temp sensors are stuck or bugged.

How far does that e6750 go? How about on stock voltage +/- .01v? Then find the average of the 7300's and go from there for a general guestimation of what you might get. The 45nm's are kind of a bust for temp sensors, and sometimes there are crap oc-ers too...but that doesn't seem as important...if it were me, I'd get the 7300 now, and keep the best clocker out of the two for myself. This would include temps, voltage needed at speeds and how well it would work with the memory and MB for a decent overall lineup... That way if the mATX rig needs the extra juice from the FSB and CPU, you know you have the power and then some.

Pinchy · Oct 28, 2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursah

That's a tough call...both are good chips, decent clockers, cool runners, but of course the 45nm will run cooler, even if the temp sensors are stuck or bugged.

How far does that e6750 go? How about on stock voltage +/- .01v? Then find the average of the 7300's and go from there for a general guestimation of what you might get. The 45nm's are kind of a bust for temp sensors, and sometimes there are crap oc-ers too...but that doesn't seem as important...if it were me, I'd get the 7300 now, and keep the best clocker out of the two for myself. This would include temps, voltage needed at speeds and how well it would work with the memory and MB for a decent overall lineup... That way if the mATX rig needs the extra juice from the FSB and CPU, you know you have the power and then some.

Haha thanks for the fast response!

I have gotten the e6750 to 3.4GHz or something on 1.4V, but havent really "pushed" it as of yet. (Used to have it on my P5B Dlx, which is no where near as overclockable as the 1600FSB P5Q-e lol.)

I might just do what you said and OC them both, see what gets me a better overclock and work from there.

ShadowFold · Oct 28, 2008, 11:44 PM

My e7200 does 4ghz at 1.4v.. I love mine!

Kenshai · Oct 28, 2008, 11:48 PM

My E6750 does 3.6 @ 1.38v

But I'd recommend dropping the extra money and going with the E8x00 series

Pinchy · Oct 28, 2008, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

My e7200 does 4ghz at 1.4v.. I love mine!

Lol that sounds pretty good...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshai

My E6750 does 3.6 @ 1.38v

But I'd recommend dropping the extra money and going with the E8x00 series

I have an e8500 in my rig. For what I use it for, I havent really noticed a diff from the e6750 to this lol. And, my brother (the key user of the matx rig) didnt notice a difference between the e6400 he had in it and the current e6750

.

That being said, he doesnt game very often, but school holidays are coming up for him, and he is a massive fan of the RA series

Pricing over here is bad. The e7300 is $175, the e8400 is $260.

niko084 · Oct 28, 2008, 11:57 PM

MY e6750 does 3.8 @ 1.475 rock stable and still cool on air, haven't tried to push it any further, a good amount of people get them to 4ghz, but a lot of time that requires some really good air or even some water.

The extra cache helps there, I still even have it maybe if I don't get rid of it I'll lap it and go for 4.1

JrRacinFan · Oct 29, 2008, 12:13 AM

Keep the e6750 and/or look at the e5200 as an option as well.

Pinchy · Oct 29, 2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

MY e6750 does 3.8 @ 1.475 rock stable and still cool on air, haven't tried to push it any further, a good amount of people get them to 4ghz, but a lot of time that requires some really good air or even some water.

The extra cache helps there, I still even have it maybe if I don't get rid of it I'll lap it and go for 4.1

You reckon the 1mb cache will make any diff in RA3?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Keep the e6750 and/or look at the e5200 as an option as well.

Na, see if I get the 5200, I will have to give her the e6750 and keep the e5200 myself (as her budget allows for a better processor, and I am already putting an HD3850 in, which is heaps for the sims).

Just dont want to limit myself to an 800FSB, because as I said, it will be at stock for the most part

the 5200 is only like 30 bucks cheaper anyway lol.

JrRacinFan · Oct 29, 2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

Just dont want to limit myself to an 800FSB, because as I said, it will be at stock for the most part

the 5200 is only like 30 bucks cheaper anyway lol.

Well, that is true. Now that I think about it good call. Would've been a good option if you needed some cut due to budget. Is there any place that still sells the e8200's?

Scrizz · Oct 29, 2008, 12:22 AM

E7300 ftw,

my E7200 does 4GHz at 1.4v aswell

farlex85 · Oct 29, 2008, 12:23 AM

Well MY e6750 does 4ghz at around 1.5v.

Does 3.6ghz at 1.325 (which happens to be my VID, so after vdroop pretty much 1ghz for free). I wouldn't let it go for anything less than an e8200. So, I vote stick w/ what you got, unless it's a real dud. Really, the performance difference b/t the two will be mostly negligible. If you want a new chip to have fun oc'ing, then go for it, if your just worried about performance, don't bother.

Pinchy · Oct 29, 2008, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Well, that is true. Now that I think about it good call. Would've been a good option if you needed some cut due to budget. Is there any place that still sells the e8200's?

Haha I forgot about the e8200. Its around $200, the e7300 being $175.

Thats not a bad step *but*, would double the cache be worth the lower overclock? What I mean is, because the e8200 is already at 1333FSB, the RAM cant be lowered as much and the G33 is only rated at 1333 (although it of course, will OC more).

See the comp wont really be doing anything like vid encoding...thats all left for my comp

. But, a stock 1333 fsb is nice to have 24/7 lol.

JrRacinFan · Oct 29, 2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

See the comp wont really be doing anything like vid encoding...thats all left for my comp

. But, a stock 1333 fsb is nice to have 24/7 lol.

See that's why I brought it up. Since your going to be leaving it at stock most of the time. . . .

farlex85 · Oct 29, 2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

Haha I forgot about the e8200. Its around $200, the e7300 being $175.

Thats not a bad step *but*, would double the cache be worth the lower overclock? What I mean is, because the e8200 is already at 1333FSB, the RAM cant be lowered as much and the G33 is only rated at 1333 (although it of course, will OC more).

See the comp wont really be doing anything like vid encoding...thats all left for my comp

. But, a stock 1333 fsb is nice to have 24/7 lol.

What g33 is it, some oc pretty good from what I've seen. My board is only "rated" for 1333 but I run it at a cool 2000 24/7 w/ absolutely no extra juice to it. Of course that's a p35, but I think some g33s can do just as well. And yeah, double the cache would probably be worth it, although again, actual difference may be minimal if this is just a basic use machine (b/t all the procs in question here).

Scrizz · Oct 29, 2008, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

e82 will get higher scores and better perf but e72 will OC higher
the gimped L2 on the e73 hurts performance_____

so go for the e8200, you might want to oc it though

SystemViper · Oct 29, 2008, 12:59 AM

If you already have the E6750, keep it and put your cash into some other part.

CDdude55 · Oct 29, 2008, 12:59 AM

My QX6700 can do 7Ghz, stock volts.lol(everyone would go crazy)

niko084 · Oct 29, 2008, 02:44 PM

I don't think the 1mb of cache will make much of a difference, but it could in the right application I guess... It's still a very solid chip, especially for gaming and basic use.. It will be awhile before there is much worth upgrading from one, especially if you have one that clocks decently..

I know mine was doing 3.2 @ 1.15 or something like that.. Was nuts.

DOM · Oct 29, 2008, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SystemViper

If you already have the E6750, keep it and put your cash into some other part.

im with him

tigger · Oct 29, 2008, 03:29 PM

Mines the same as usual,3.6ghz at 1.325v,which is stock vcore,and 3.8ghz at 1.475v.I am running it at 4ghz at 1.525v now,it is on water cooling though.

I'd also say stick with the 6750.

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