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Old Mar 19, 2009, 09:05 PM   #2651
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Thanks, and thanks to Tom also, the UD4P sounds about what I would need, only use 3 SATA ports, that one Crossfire I gather? I am really lazy so am thinking about getting a water kit as it's quick and easy to install, not a crap one but obviousl;y it wont compete with mid - mid/high range custom setups, I am stuck between the more expensive Zalman resorator V2 or the swiftec H20 - 220, the one with the double Rad, both will perform better than the best air by a few degrees.

trouble is, I love this Q9650, I might keep it, upgrade my board to the gigabyte P45 Extreme and go water, that way I should get more outta her, not sure what to do yet, a Yorkie benching at 4.5gig would probably match an i7 at 4 - 4.1gig, not sure.
In most cases you will not notice the difference, but in cpu and memory intensive stuff, the i7 blows the doors off the 775 cpu's. I have a X3380 that runs at 4.8ghz and my i7 at 4.0ghz still runs circles around it when i do rendering, encoding and compliing.

But again for average stuff and gaming, you prob won't even know the difference. I know exactly what you mean, I have a Q9650 that I got to over 5ghz and my X3380 is a monster, but i am upgrading all my systems to i7's just because of the speed. So slowly i am getting rid of all my 775 components
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Old Mar 19, 2009, 09:06 PM   #2652
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Old Mar 19, 2009, 09:10 PM   #2653
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Nice fit, 2x 295s is godly. Are you using a workstation for your componets?
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Tom, you can increase your vcore a bit more. Intel spec is up to 1.375, and honestly safe up until at least 1.4v.
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Use the 21x multi with 200 bclk. 1.4v-1.45v vcore, 1.4v vtt/qpi
Uncore must be double of the memory or more and you should be stable at 4.2 with HT off.
Then try lowering the volts a bit..
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Would you say that Ht on is an advantage, or with it off do you get as well performance, say with a higher clock. I can get to 4.0 with ht on, but not really any higher without getting into high voltages. now I run 3.9 with turbo on 24/7 and it seems to be good for now. I have ht on and my max temps can hit 76 with a TRUE in push/pull config. I know my temps could drop about 10 degrees if I turn off HT but is it worth it for 24/7 use?
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Old Mar 19, 2009, 10:04 PM   #2657
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explain unicore do you mean double the voltage?
Uncore clocks. exemple, if the ram is set to 1600mhz, the uncore need to be at least 3200mhz.
Personally i try to sync it with the qpi clocks 3600 uncore 7200 qpi. That is at 4.2ghz...
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wow... i see why binge is pissed. ppl dont read anything.

im not handing out any answers to questions i've answered several dozen times here in this thread already.

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Unfortunately fits does have a point there...
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i think i saw it a few posts back actually. in some of the settings that were recommended.

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im just a crazy asshole that has tons of money to buy crazy stuff.

yet somehow i dont have a real job but still manage to support the 3 other ppl that live in my house with me.

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Old Mar 19, 2009, 10:11 PM   #2661
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First off, you don't have to read 107 pages of stuff. You can search the thread or even Google on these terms and get crystal clear results in seconds.
Second, I didn't notice your post count before. If you're a regular, you should know by now that searching is gold.
Third, even with all this crazy clocking going around, please, everyone, keep your heads cool a bit instead of getting pissed off from every single comment you don't like.
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Old Mar 19, 2009, 10:13 PM   #2662
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WTF, who are you talking to junior
The one I'm quoting right here.
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im not part of this man. chill.

im just saying that the answer has been told a few times in the past 3 pages or so since you got your stuff. its there.
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Old Mar 19, 2009, 10:21 PM   #2664
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On another note, I just found out my rad cools 3-5 degrees better when it's not flat on the case but standing in an upright position.
Probably since its not being cooled by warm air now. Me likes!
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On another note, I just found out my rad cools 3-5 degrees better when it's not flat on the case but standing in an upright position.
Probably since its not being cooled by warm air now. Me likes!
I experienced that with my last water cooling setup. I just had it stand on screws lol. Screwed them in enough to hold the rad up and thats it
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for the record....

PULL is the best way to cool a rad second to push+pull.
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PULL is the best way to cool a rad second to push+pull.
FIT, maybe my setup is just weird dude. I just switched from pull to push, and my temps dropped 5ºc all around, after a day of crunching to confirm.
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i7 rig will be down in the next week or two, plan to do it then.
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PULL is the best way to cool a rad second to push+pull.
Forgot to report back from my little test yesterday, i tried push+shroud and my temps went up 1celcius from my current pull with shroud config. Also added a 220 cfm delta (the twin motor series) on it but it didn't achieved anything apart from having an airplane engine destroying my ears.
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I think I noted my setup was doing 69-70 degrees on 3.66/HT/Turbo (all settings auto FTW) before?

Either way, 63-64 sounds a lot better

Btw Patty, I tried push or pull here as well, not a single degree of difference that I could see...
I do know now push+pull sucks when your fans aren't blowing the same amounts of air. When I turned off the push fans, I could hear the pull fans increase their speed.
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I think I noted my setup was doing 69-70 degrees on 3.66/HT/Turbo (all settings auto FTW) before?

Either way, 63-64 sounds a lot better

Btw Patty, I tried push or pull here as well, not a single degree of difference that I could see...
I do know now push+pull sucks when your fans aren't blowing the same amounts of air. When I turned off the push fans, I could hear the pull fans increase their speed.
yeah for that you need the same exact fans bro. Well push works much much better for me

Maybe it depends on the rad or the design of the rad?
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I'll try pairing the fans tomorrow. Sleep time now.

Oh and more rad is (almost) always better I guess
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this has to be the biggest mobo box i've ever gotten...

the DK box is a normal sized one...



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