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Old Dec 1, 2008, 10:26 AM   #1
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Tentative Launch Time-Frames for AMD 45nm Desktop CPUs Tabled

A lot has been said about the launch schedules of AMD's upcoming 45nm desktop processors over the last fortnight. While the company itself slated its 45nm desktop CPU range to kick-off on January 8 2009, skeptics think otherwise saying it could take longer for AMD to have sufficiently stocked up inventories in retail channels.

HKEPC compiled a list of tentative order availability. time-frames for the 45nm CPUs sourced from PC manufacturers, which shows that the company launches Phenom II X4 940 on Jan. 8, while most of the product launches are concentrated in the months of February and April, 2009. Starting those months, channel vendors will be able to place bulk orders for those processors, to stock up inventories. Also pictured is the die-shot of AMD Deneb, and a picture showing the differences between the AM3 and AM2+ pin-grids (AM3 on the leftHS, AM2+ on rightHS).



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Old Dec 1, 2008, 01:39 PM   #2
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Well, my XFX GTX260 BE is due in this week. I splurged and used my Deneb fund on the new video card. Couldn't pass it up! I don't want the Deneb's to be launched in Feb or April because AMD really needs these out ASAP. But, since I have no more Deneb fund, it gives me time to start saving again if they come out in Feb or April. It's a win win for me.
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does anybody knows the TDP of those A64 x2 ?

Do you guys think we can expect much improved tpd from this family, maybe a a64x2 @2.2 25W ?
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Don't we know this already? Why is AMD so hesitant to tell us the price of these..

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 04:24 PM   #5
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The Inquirer posted a more complete table 2 weeks ago

There's a much more complete table at The Inquirer...

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...i-athlon-x4-oh

TDPs and cache levels included. This isn't "we guess there will be 4x512KB per core", it's more of a "we're sure" article.

Funny how the tables look so much alike...
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I can wait for Jan 8th, 2009. No biggie for me. By then, prices will be shown to us.

@DaC when did you go from the X2 3800+ I sent ya to Intel
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There's a much more complete table at The Inquirer...

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...i-athlon-x4-oh

TDPs and cache levels included. This isn't "we guess there will be 4x512KB per core", it's more of a "we're sure" article.

Funny how the tables look so much alike...
They added their own sauce to this Chinese article which is basically nothing more than a description of the AMD slides: http://publish.it168.com/2008/1114/20081114006901.shtml
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There's a much more complete table at The Inquirer...

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...i-athlon-x4-oh

TDPs and cache levels included. This isn't "we guess there will be 4x512KB per core", it's more of a "we're sure" article.

Funny how the tables look so much alike...
Oh 65W =(
I was expecting about 45W for those anyway Q3 is just too far ahead

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I can wait for Jan 8th, 2009. No biggie for me. By then, prices will be shown to us.

@DaC when did you go from the X2 3800+ I sent ya to Intel
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I'm sticking with q6600 for now until Phenom x2 shows what it can do
But I also want to build a low energy PC that isn't a turtle... my hope is on the new amd line.
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Don't we know this already? Why is AMD so hesitant to tell us the price of these..
Because theres such a force called Intel, & because Intel keeps slashing their prices. A wise move from AMD - keeping its cards close to its chest. If i were AMD id do exactly the same thing. they have to keep the market competitive
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The chart does not mention any TDP.

Tough choice go with 940 or 945 ? AM3 requires new memory (DDR3) wich i do not have.
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The chart does not mention any TDP.

Tough choice go with 940 or 945 ? AM3 requires new memory (DDR3) wich i do not have.
AM3 works on AM2+ boards
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I thought Phenom II AM3 version would have both DDR3 and DDR2 MEM controller. If so, wise move on AMD's part IMO especially if AM3 boards support both DDR2 and DDR3. If I were to build a Phenom II platform I would go AM3 with DDR3 or if DDR2 is supported then AM3 with DDR2 (with option to go DDR3). Either way I can just pull a stick of DDR2 or DDR3 from one of my systems to get started.

So yeah, it would be Phenom II X4 945 for me and I would expect it to be less then my current i7 920 based system,....but OC to the moon
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i just wonder if you do use the current AM2+ boards if you need another CPU in order to do the bios update for the phenom2?
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i sold my mobo, cpu , v.card , even my case and my become patience become end , i can't wait more than month to without pc
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so facing the screen the AM3 is on the Left, and AM2+ on the Right or is it the Direction the Screen is Facing AM3 on Right and AM2+ on Left? Because there really isnt much difference in the PGA other than 1 pin being moved from 1 spot to the other.
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so facing the screen the AM3 is on the Left, and AM2+ on the Right or is it the Direction the Screen is Facing AM3 on Right and AM2+ on Left? Because there really isnt much difference in the PGA other than 1 pin being moved from 1 spot to the other.
I'd guess the AM3 is on the right hand of the picture. It has two aditional pins (and we alway need more pins : )

If they are due out in Jan/Feb retail where is W1zz demo sample ; 0

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...and a picture showing the differences between the AM3 and AM2+ pin-grids (AM3 on the leftHS, AM2+ on rightHS).
I may stand corrected per this I think the AM3 is the Left side of the picture.
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An AM2+ 3.0 GHz Quad core is looking really tasty!
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I`m interested in those Athlon64 x4 2.5 GHz. In my theory they should be nice buy. Considering that price should be much lower than Phenoms because of less cache and smaller die size knowing that Phenoms don`t benefit much from cache it is not big of a handicap. And hoping that in little time when AMD would perfect their 45nm technology 2.5 athlons would clock ( I Hope) to 4GHz like phenoms.
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