New Monitor => Now I need a new GPU

theeldest · Dec 5, 2008, 03:20 AM

I just got a new monitor (Samsung 22" -- 1680x1050 -- 2232BW) and now my games are running slow. :-(

(I expected that. I switched from 1280x1024).

Now the question is which grahpics card to get? I'm thinking the ATI 4850. Though I'd like to spend a bit less for something that's nearly as good. (suggestions?)

I play Oblivion, Warhammer, & BF2. Nothin too serious (and I'm pretty sure the 4850 is a fair bit more than I need here).

So what card in the sub $200 range will give me the best performance? (I'm also looking to overclock (because it's fun) and would like something that's relatively quiet.)

erocker · Dec 5, 2008, 03:23 AM

The HIS IceQ would be a good choice. Sub-$200, cool and quiet. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161244

Wile E · Dec 5, 2008, 03:24 AM

I would say a 4850 is your best bet. They are reasonably priced, and would last you longer than a lesser video card.

The ASUS top model will come to $129, after dealing with a mail-in-rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121272

DarkEgo · Dec 5, 2008, 03:28 AM

I would get the cheapest 4850 you can find and put some aftermarket cooling on it. The Battle Axe is a great cooler.

nflesher87 · Dec 5, 2008, 03:30 AM

although if you're cool with used I would shoot for a 9800GTX/8800GTS G92 as it'd be in the same price range as the 4850 but I've personally found nvidia cards to have more overclock headroom
And by the way, no matter what you choose, you're going to see a HUGE improvement over that 7600...it'll be like night and day

theeldest · Dec 5, 2008, 03:31 AM

I'm not 100% up on the 4850s. Do they all use GDDR3? or are there some models with different memory to avoid/look for?

Wile E · Dec 5, 2008, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theeldest

I'm not 100% up on the 4850s. Do they all use GDDR3? or are there some models with different memory to avoid/look for?

Well, most are GDDR3, but I believe one company plans to release a GDDR4 model. For casual gaming at your res, just grab the 4850 that's the best price, and has the features you are after. If you want to push your budget, you can grab a 1GB 4850, which will last you even longer.

theeldest · Dec 5, 2008, 03:41 AM

I think I'm partial to this MSI:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127370

I'll admit, it's for a stupid reason. I like the cooler on it. It looks snazzy. (and the price of this compared to the cheapest with an aftermarket cooler is within $10. I think I'd rather have something good that I don't need to do myself. even if I decide not to overclock (all depends on free time), I'd expect this one to be quieter than other models.)

Any personal experience on which 4850s will be loud?

nflesher87 · Dec 5, 2008, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theeldest

I think I'm partial to this MSI:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127370

I'll admit, it's for a stupid reason. I like the cooler on it. It looks snazzy. (and the price of this compared to the cheapest with an aftermarket cooler is within $10. I think I'd rather have something good that I don't need to do myself. even if I decide not to overclock (all depends on free time), I'd expect this one to be quieter than other models.)

Any personal experience on which 4850s will be loud?

basically the ones with the stock coolers will be loud unless you perform a fan mod, other than that the aftermarket cooler equipped ones will all be generally quiet

Wile E · Dec 5, 2008, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theeldest

I think I'm partial to this MSI:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127370

I'll admit, it's for a stupid reason. I like the cooler on it. It looks snazzy. (and the price of this compared to the cheapest with an aftermarket cooler is within $10. I think I'd rather have something good that I don't need to do myself. even if I decide not to overclock (all depends on free time), I'd expect this one to be quieter than other models.)

Any personal experience on which 4850s will be loud?

It should be quiet. My MSI has an aluminum heatsink, similar to the ones found on the Palit cards, and it was nearly silent, despite the fact it wasn't an rpm controlled fan (always at 100%), and my computer isn't even in a case.

theeldest · Jan 12, 2009, 10:46 PM

All this talk, and I didn't even end up getting one of the cards I talked about.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103061

But I didnt' get it from NewEgg, got it from Fry's. I'm at work until 11p CST, but we'll see how she does tonight.

Any thoughts? Seemed like a good deal (and I had a gift card with $130 on it, so I only had to pay for half and newegg doesn't do split payments (that I could find))

spearman914 · Jan 12, 2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theeldest

All this talk, and I didn't even end up getting one of the cards I talked about.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103061

But I didnt' get it from NewEgg, got it from Fry's. I'm at work until 11p CST, but we'll see how she does tonight.

Any thoughts? Seemed like a good deal (and I had a gift card with $130 on it, so I only had to pay for half and newegg doesn't do split payments (that I could find))

Your gonna love that card, it's wicked fast.

BrooksyX · Jan 12, 2009, 10:54 PM

4870 = awesome. I wanna get a second one soon.

How much did you pay for it? The diamond one at newegg is way overpriced.

spearman914 · Jan 12, 2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

4870 = awesome. I wanna get a second one soon.

How much did you pay for it? The diamond one at newegg is way overpriced.

But u need a new board since ur's a P35/

BrooksyX · Jan 12, 2009, 11:13 PM

Ahh but if you look again you shall notice that I have a p45 on the way.

spearman914 · Jan 12, 2009, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

Ahh but if you look again you shall notice that I have a p45 on the way.

Pfft. P45 also has one PCI-E.

U need to waste a lot of money buddy.

BrooksyX · Jan 12, 2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

Pfft. P45 also has one PCI-E.

U need to waste a lot of money buddy.

What are you talking about???

My p35 has two pci-e 16x slots but one of them is only 4x electrical.
The p45 I just purchased has 2 16x 2.0 slots that operate at 8x in crossfire mode. More than enough bandwidth.
Look for yourself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131299

Sorry but you are making me laugh now

Cold Storm · Jan 12, 2009, 11:18 PM

Spearman... Please look at what he's getting.. and please stop saying waste of money or this is bad when you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT... The board that BrooklsyX is getting is a P45 Pro.. It has two PCI-e Slots!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...%20Motherboard

The Asus Pro P45 board is probably one of the best boards out there for the P45 chip... Man, get the facts right...

spearman914 · Jan 12, 2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

What are you talking about???

My p35 has two pci-e 16x slots but one of them is only 4x electrical.
The p45 I just purchased has 2 16x 2.0 slots that operate at 8x in crossfire mode. More than enough bandwidth.
Look for yourself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131299

Sorry but you are making me laugh now

I think i forgot that not all p35/p45 has one PCI-E slot.

BrooksyX · Jan 12, 2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Spearman... Please look at what he's getting.. and please stop saying waste of money or this is bad when you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT... The board that BrooklsyX is getting is a P45 Pro.. It has two PCI-e Slots!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...%20Motherboard

Thanks. I am having a hard time figuring out spearman's logic here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

I think i forgot that not all p35/p45 has one PCI-E slot.

yeah many of them have 2 pci-e 16x slots.
a few of them even have 3.

theeldest · Jan 13, 2009, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

4870 = awesome. I wanna get a second one soon.

How much did you pay for it? The diamond one at newegg is way overpriced.

$229 before rebate
-$40
--------------------
$189 after rebate (before tax. Got it in store)

farlex85 · Jan 13, 2009, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theeldest

I just got a new monitor (Samsung 22" -- 1680x1050 -- 2232BW) and now my games are running slow. :-(

(I expected that. I switched from 1280x1024).

Now the question is which grahpics card to get? I'm thinking the ATI 4850. Though I'd like to spend a bit less for something that's nearly as good. (suggestions?)

I play Oblivion, Warhammer, & BF2. Nothin too serious (and I'm pretty sure the 4850 is a fair bit more than I need here).

So what card in the sub $200 range will give me the best performance? (I'm also looking to overclock (because it's fun) and would like something that's relatively quiet.)

I got that same monitor, it's nice, make sure you get magic-tune (comes on a disc w/ the monitor, or you can download it from samsung's website) to calibrate it for best viewing, plus it allows you to adjust settings from windows rather than reaching for the buttons which can be a pita. Nice card choice to go w/ it as well. Get some oblivion texture mods and you'll be in cpu gaming heaven in no time.

BrooksyX · Jan 13, 2009, 12:45 AM

Oh thats not bad at all. Even better with your gift card.
Hope you enjoy your card. I am definitely enjoying mine.

OnBoard · Jan 13, 2009, 04:04 AM

What card did you used to have? I went from 8800GT & 1280x1024 to 9800GTX+ & 1680x1050, worked out nicely.

theeldest · Jan 13, 2009, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnBoard

What card did you used to have? I went from 8800GT & 1280x1024 to 9800GTX+ & 1680x1050, worked out nicely.

I'm upgrading from a 7600GT. This is the first high end card I've ever had. It'll be neat to run above minimum settings.

I've had Oblivion almost 3 years, and I'll finally be able to run it on high settings.

Dec 5, 2008, 03:20 AM	#1
theeldest Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 611 (0.23/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 139 Times in 100 Posts System Specs	New Monitor => Now I need a new GPU I just got a new monitor (Samsung 22" -- 1680x1050 -- 2232BW) and now my games are running slow. :-( (I expected that. I switched from 1280x1024). Now the question is which grahpics card to get? I'm thinking the ATI 4850. Though I'd like to spend a bit less for something that's nearly as good. (suggestions?) I play Oblivion, Warhammer, & BF2. Nothin too serious (and I'm pretty sure the 4850 is a fair bit more than I need here). So what card in the sub $200 range will give me the best performance? (I'm also looking to overclock (because it's fun) and would like something that's relatively quiet.)

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Dec 5, 2008, 03:24 AM	#3
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.48/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,825 Times in 3,123 Posts System Specs	I would say a 4850 is your best bet. They are reasonably priced, and would last you longer than a lesser video card. The ASUS top model will come to $129, after dealing with a mail-in-rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121272 __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

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Dec 5, 2008, 03:31 AM	#6
theeldest Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 611 (0.23/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 139 Times in 100 Posts System Specs	I'm not 100% up on the 4850s. Do they all use GDDR3? or are there some models with different memory to avoid/look for?

Dec 5, 2008, 03:41 AM	#8
theeldest Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 611 (0.23/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 139 Times in 100 Posts System Specs	I think I'm partial to this MSI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127370 I'll admit, it's for a stupid reason. I like the cooler on it. It looks snazzy. (and the price of this compared to the cheapest with an aftermarket cooler is within $10. I think I'd rather have something good that I don't need to do myself. even if I decide not to overclock (all depends on free time), I'd expect this one to be quieter than other models.) Any personal experience on which 4850s will be loud?

Jan 12, 2009, 10:46 PM	#11
theeldest Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 611 (0.23/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 139 Times in 100 Posts System Specs	All this talk, and I didn't even end up getting one of the cards I talked about. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103061 But I didnt' get it from NewEgg, got it from Fry's. I'm at work until 11p CST, but we'll see how she does tonight. Any thoughts? Seemed like a good deal (and I had a gift card with $130 on it, so I only had to pay for half and newegg doesn't do split payments (that I could find))

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BrooksyX Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 3,572 (1.82/day) Thanks: 511 Thanked 570 Times in 527 Posts System Specs	4870 = awesome. I wanna get a second one soon. How much did you pay for it? The diamond one at newegg is way overpriced.

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BrooksyX Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 3,572 (1.82/day) Thanks: 511 Thanked 570 Times in 527 Posts System Specs	Ahh but if you look again you shall notice that I have a p45 on the way.

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Jan 13, 2009, 12:45 AM	#23
BrooksyX Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 3,572 (1.82/day) Thanks: 511 Thanked 570 Times in 527 Posts System Specs	Oh thats not bad at all. Even better with your gift card. Hope you enjoy your card. I am definitely enjoying mine.

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