Interesting Thread on ATI Drivers

eidairaman1 · Dec 14, 2008, 07:46 AM

Read this article for a good fix for those who are having crashing all the time, primarily for XP but possibly for Vista too if it hasnt been fixed, the Article is Very Current as of Page 4 or 5

Check it out

http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...-death-et.html

Other News here is the Classic CP for the Cat 8.12 Drivers
http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...i-8-12-cp.html

oli_ramsay · Dec 15, 2008, 06:11 AM

I get random BSODs sometimes while gaming, it's happening a lot with GTA4 and left 4 dead and it's soooo annoying! I'll uninstall CCC as the thread says and see if that helps at all.

Thanks for teh heads up though!

eidairaman1 · Dec 15, 2008, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli_ramsay

I get random BSODs sometimes while gaming, it's happening a lot with GTA4 and left 4 dead and it's soooo annoying! I'll uninstall CCC as the thread says and see if that helps at all.

Thanks for teh heads up though!

that doesnt help really at all as its what is goin on in windows itself, if you want full tweaking of the card i suggest getting ATI Tray tools in combination with the Classic CP.

oli_ramsay · Dec 15, 2008, 08:28 AM

hmm, looks like a couple of windows updates are needed, but they're for Xp only. Well I'm stumped.

Dec 15, 2008, 09:33 AM

I beginning to suspect that Microsoft hates ATI for some reason,because this is not the frist time windows got issues with ATI cards.

oli_ramsay · Dec 15, 2008, 03:37 PM

Just out of interest, is there any Radeon users here on TPU that get frequent BSOD's while gaming?

King Wookie · Dec 15, 2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli_ramsay

Just out of interest, is there any Radeon users here on TPU that get frequent BSOD's while gaming?

It wasn't BSOD's, but VPU Recover would keep kicking in; even in 2D mode.
What fixed it was updating Adobe Reader. Go figure.

AsRock · Dec 15, 2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli_ramsay

Just out of interest, is there any Radeon users here on TPU that get frequent BSOD's while gaming?

I get them but only booting XP restarting and then booting Vista ( Visa Versa ). Thats noting to do with ATI though as it does it with the 7900 too.

Only other time i had issue with ATI cards was due to using Rivatuner.

TRIPTEX_CAN · Dec 15, 2008, 04:34 PM

I have the BSOD disabled but I do get hard crashes when the cards are overclocked using HDMI as either secondary or primary display.

No HDMI = no crashing for me.

eidairaman1 · Dec 15, 2008, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Wookie

It wasn't BSOD's, but VPU Recover would keep kicking in; even in 2D mode.
What fixed it was updating Adobe Reader. Go figure.

Turn off VPU Recovery, that service is what i think is ATIs Achilles Heel, it usually makes the card less stable to have it on than to have it off.

Arciks · Dec 15, 2008, 07:45 PM

i got restart only in gta4 with BSOD.didnt seen in other games yet.

leonard_222003 · Dec 15, 2008, 10:36 PM

I got a problem with the overclock from CCC , can't use it cause i get a white screen in my case

, solution is to use riva tuner.
My card not being referance one doesn't work with many overclocking softwares like ati tray tools i get crashes just like CCC.
Others problems i didn't encounter , no game crahes but i use clean windows XP with sp3.

eidairaman1 · Dec 15, 2008, 11:52 PM

Id Refrain from Installing SP3 Period

eidairaman1 · Dec 16, 2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Wookie

It wasn't BSOD's, but VPU Recover would keep kicking in; even in 2D mode.
What fixed it was updating Adobe Reader. Go figure.

Could be .net Related, Also awhile back i was having problem of apps crashing, it pointed to a strange file which i believe was being shared between these apps, and the file was .net related, these problems occurred while i had Service Pack 3 in, well low and behold i went back to XP with SP2, Mind i have MCE 2005. All in all after reverting back as of fresh install, i noticed after SP2 is installed for MCE 2005 there are certain critical files/other software that is needed for the Proper Function of MCE 2005 which do appear but don't appear after SP3 is installed from fresh (no WUPs yet), so a possibility that SP3 prevents those critical files from being installed thus causes problems, so i refrain from installin SP3 again because i think its a ploy from MS to get you to move to Vista when Vista is broken still.

Dec 17, 2008, 06:53 AM

I had BSOD's on xp loading screen.

eidairaman1 · Dec 17, 2008, 07:23 AM

hmm

Ever Look on the box or the Manual of the Sapphire X1950 Pro before you Started running it? Because it specifically states a 450 watt or higher PSU that can maintain high Amps aswell, your PSU is shy of that and FSP isnt that good of a manufacturer, so i suggest trying a known Good Powersupply with Greater Rating of 450-500 watts and see if that makes a difference, also Drivers do load during the XP load screen.

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eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,099 (4.63/day) Thanks: 1,364 Thanked 1,164 Times in 1,040 Posts System Specs	Interesting Thread on ATI Drivers Read this article for a good fix for those who are having crashing all the time, primarily for XP but possibly for Vista too if it hasnt been fixed, the Article is Very Current as of Page 4 or 5 Check it out http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...-death-et.html Other News here is the Classic CP for the Cat 8.12 Drivers http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...i-8-12-cp.html __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2 Last edited by eidairaman1; Dec 14, 2008 at 08:02 AM.

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Dec 15, 2008, 06:11 AM	#2
oli_ramsay Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,679 (1.28/day) Thanks: 577 Thanked 592 Times in 450 Posts System Specs	I get random BSODs sometimes while gaming, it's happening a lot with GTA4 and left 4 dead and it's soooo annoying! I'll uninstall CCC as the thread says and see if that helps at all. Thanks for teh heads up though!

Dec 15, 2008, 08:28 AM	#4
oli_ramsay Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,679 (1.28/day) Thanks: 577 Thanked 592 Times in 450 Posts System Specs	hmm, looks like a couple of windows updates are needed, but they're for Xp only. Well I'm stumped.

Dec 15, 2008, 09:33 AM	#5
Hardware Punisher Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	I beginning to suspect that Microsoft hates ATI for some reason,because this is not the frist time windows got issues with ATI cards.

Dec 15, 2008, 03:37 PM	#6
oli_ramsay Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,679 (1.28/day) Thanks: 577 Thanked 592 Times in 450 Posts System Specs	Just out of interest, is there any Radeon users here on TPU that get frequent BSOD's while gaming?

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Hardware Punisher Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	I had BSOD's on xp loading screen.

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eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,099 (4.63/day) Thanks: 1,364 Thanked 1,164 Times in 1,040 Posts System Specs	hmm Ever Look on the box or the Manual of the Sapphire X1950 Pro before you Started running it? Because it specifically states a 450 watt or higher PSU that can maintain high Amps aswell, your PSU is shy of that and FSP isnt that good of a manufacturer, so i suggest trying a known Good Powersupply with Greater Rating of 450-500 watts and see if that makes a difference, also Drivers do load during the XP load screen. __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2

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