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Old Dec 22, 2008, 09:33 AM   #1
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EVGA 55nm GeForce GTX 260 Ready for Launch

With NVIDIA being ready with variants of the G200 graphics processors based on the 55nm manufacturing process, a fleet of new graphics cards are in the line for launches. The range starts with a sub-$300 offering, the GeForce GTX 260 55nm. You now have three SKUs that share the name "GeForce GTX 260". The GeForce GTX 260 comes with the 216 SP configuration with 896 MB of GDDR3 memory. EVGA for one, is aiming to be one of the first NVIDIA partners to be out with the new GeForce GTX 260, with a standard and Superclocked models ready for launch, already listed in European and North American online stores.

The EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR comes with NVIDIA reference clock speeds of 576 MHz (core), 1242 MHz (shader) and 999 MHz (memory), while the Superclocked EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR model is factory-overclocked with 626 MHz (core), 1350 MHz (shader) and 1053 MHz (memory). EVGA is further planning a SSC variant that could come with a core clock speed of 666 MHz. For now, American retailer ZipZoomFly has listed the reference speed card for $289.99 and the Superclocked variant for just $4 more. Both cards are listed as "pre-order".


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Old Dec 22, 2008, 10:12 AM   #2
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Let me see if I've got this right, the 3 SKUs are:

GTX260 with 192 shaders (65nm)
GTX260 with 216 shaders (65nm)
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Let me see if I've got this right, the 3 SKUs are:

GTX260 with 192 shaders (65nm)
GTX260 with 216 shaders (65nm)
GTX260 with 216 shaders (55nm)

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They are the three nvidia chips under the GTX260 name yeah, but obviously only the GTX260 55nm 216SP is now in production.
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dont care so much about 55nm bcoz i already own EVGA GTX 260 (216SP) - 65nm, but I will consider another GTX 260 (55nm) for Tri-SLI setup.

Do GTX 285 will have new tech or just like GTX 260 55nm?
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The GTX 285 is just a 55nm revision, however there is speculation that it may have increased clock speeds.
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it would be compatible with my ASUS M3N78-VM Motherboard?
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it would be compatible with my ASUS M3N78-VM Motherboard?
If your board supports pci express and your power supply can cope. Then yes it will work just fine.
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What would the benefit of a 55nm GPU be? Higher clocks due to lower operating temps?
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What would the benefit of a 55nm GPU be? Higher clocks due to lower operating temps?
...and lower manufacturing costs, cheaper products.
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...and lower manufacturing costs, cheaper products.
Funny how all the 55nm ones are more expensive, silly Nvidia.
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...and lower manufacturing costs, cheaper products.
yeah lower cost but selling at higher price..

nvidia owez charge higher price for their card.. thank god i buy GTX260 (216SP) at discount rate.. i've 2 GTX 260 the other one with 192SP but it cost me higher than 216SP.. $289 i think its too much.. why not selling at $249.. it will sell like a hot cake..
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Funny how all the 55nm ones are more expensive, silly Nvidia.
These are far from expensive (relatively speaking). It also indicates it would get cheaper over time. Remember the launch price of the 192 SP 65nm GTX 260?
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These are far from expensive (relatively speaking). It also indicates it would get cheaper over time. Remember the launch price of the 192 SP 65nm GTX 260?
Yes, I do remember the launch price and it was only reduced as a direct result of competition. Which indicates that they were charging way to much to begin with. Something that's being implied again in this thread.

Lets make something clear, there was no pre-review of the this sku as the 295. This may indicate that performance can fall inline with it's other sku'd variation at the same gpu, shader and memory clock rate. So, people do have a good reason to be upset that they are once again charging a higher price for their product. This is not a launch of a new product, just a new sku of the same product.

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Wonder what their yields are with this new process. I do recall them having trouble at 65nm getting an acceptable yield. Maybe the 55nm has been giving them trouble so they have to charge more due to more failing cards? Or maybe they just hope people will think the 55nm would make a bigger difference and buy them anyway.
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EVGA is further planning a SSC variant that could come with a core clock speed of 666 MHz.
WHAT!? EVGA's turned to the dark side!
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The reason they are more expensive is that they are NEW. It's not Nvidia's fault, it's all the people in between them and the (r)etailer and especially the (r)etailer who inflate the prices. Much more when they are pre-order prices, it's always been the same with every single card, price friendly HD4000 cards included. (R)etailers asked an arm and a leg (comparatively) for HD4850 when it was for pre-order, much much more than what they are asking now.

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Of course the performance is the same, no one said the contrary. It even was Nvidia's desire that this new SKU didn't had any diferentiation from the old 216 SP card. No more 65nm cards are being done now, this is the replacement. And prices are driven by demand and value of the card. If you think that they should sell the card for less than the 65nm one, ask yourself why Ati has been selling a 55nm 256bit card for more than Nvidia's 65nm 448bit one...
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i'll end up getting a 55nm 260 if nothing betters out in that price range by late january.
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Awesome, when ever i get a job i will be picking one up.
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i'll end up getting a 55nm 260 if nothing betters out in that price range by late january.
Same here, but I need two

(also need deneb, 8GB ram, new MB, case, PSU)

I'm going to be soooo poor
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everything for gtx260 , anything for gtx 260 , did nvidia feel shame when talking about gtx280 or they forget it
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The GTX 285 is just a 55nm revision, however there is speculation that it may have increased clock speeds.
doesn't much seem like speculation...

clock will be 650 core, 1400 shaders and 1200 memory, from memory....

a pic was posted recently in the forums showing the speeds of the 285.

nvidia have been quoted saying it will be 10% faster, with no core change apart from 55nm, which points to it having to be clocked roughly 10% faster.
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It is speculation until Nvidia announces it.

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It is speculation until Nvidia announces it.
most "speculation" at this point of being so close to launch of a a product or graphic card in this case are accurate. Also for those wondering why the 55nm is more expensive the other reasons listed are probly true, but you also have to remember retailers still have the 65nm versin in stock and want to get rid of the excess stock of those first, so the 65nm are cheaper to get them off the shelves, or else everyone would buy the 55nm version.
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