Previous & current Phenom B2 owners... question for you.

johnnyfiive · Jan 12, 2009, 05:26 PM

To all the previous and current Phenom B2 owners, have you or are you going back to Intel? Reason I ask is because I'm kinda thinking of doing so myself. I was looking at the price of the Phenom II 940 ($275) and it bugs me the more I think about it. $275... TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE dollars. A Q6600 is $190. $275 minus $190 is $85. Take the $85 and get the GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L motherboard and now you have a quad core rig that is easily overclocked for the price of a Phenom II 940. Anyone else in the same boat as me?

Paulieg · Jan 12, 2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmang

To all the previous and current Phenom B2 owners, have you or are you going back to Intel? Reason I ask is because I'm kinda thinking of doing so myself. I was looking at the price of the Phenom II 940 ($275) and it bugs me the more I think about it. $275... TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE dollars. A Q6600 is $190. $275 minus $190 is $85. Take the $85 and get the GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L motherboard and now you have a quad core rig that is easily overclocked for the price of a Phenom II 940. Anyone else in the same boat as me?

It kind of sounds like you're considering a lateral move from the hardware you already have. If you are going Intel, I'd say you should get at least a q9450. Oh wait, then you are approaching the same price and performance as Phenom II. Do you see my point?

johnnyfiive · Jan 12, 2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

It kind of sounds like you're considering a lateral move from the hardware you already have. If you are going Intel, I'd say you should get at least a q9450. Oh wait, then you are approaching the same price and performance as Phenom II. Do you see my point?

I totally see your point. Its just a thought. I think I'm just butt hurt from the B2 stepping. I really want the 940, I just wish it was cheaper.

stanhemi · Jan 12, 2009, 05:43 PM

Darknova · Jan 12, 2009, 05:54 PM

I moved from Intel due to the ridiculous amount of money I was spending on my PC which was CONSTANTLY unstable, and because I'd had much better experiences with AMD than I've ever had with Intel (shoot me down, I don't care, my views, my experiences

)

I will be moving to PII because then I will have truly "upgraded" in performance terms.

kenkickr · Jan 12, 2009, 05:59 PM

In honesty I was happy with my 9850 and now very happy with my 9950. With that, Intel will never see a dime from me til pretty much AMD no longer is in business. The last time I tried Intel was back with a 2.4Ghz Prescott that made me purchase 3 boards just to get it to run right and when I finally was able to get it stable...I sold it for HALF of what I paid just to get rid of the POS.

johnnyfiive · Jan 12, 2009, 06:02 PM

I will more than likely get the 940 fairly soon. I've always been an AMD fan, I was just really let down by my spider platform. I recall building it and absolutely loving it. 9600BE, two 3870's, etc. Then I couldn't overclock it... then the TLB bug issue with Vista SP1 (resorted to 3rd party fix). Then the B3's came out and it was like the B2's never existed. Now finally, the Deneb's come out and it feels like my 1 1/2 year old CPU is 3 years old. The new Deneb is just awwwweeesome.

Darknova · Jan 12, 2009, 06:06 PM

Hahah, I've got a friend who's still on an X2 6000, he loves it. At 3Ghz it keeps up with my X3 in apps that are either non-multithreaded, or only for 2 cores. At 3.5 it out matches my chip.

I can't overclock mine (well I can, I'm just having issues and I have no motivation to do it with this shitty board) but I don't feel I need to. I max out all games, it feels quick at desktop level. What more do I need?

trickson · Jan 12, 2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

It kind of sounds like you're considering a lateral move from the hardware you already have. If you are going Intel, I'd say you should get at least a q9450. Oh wait, then you are approaching the same price and performance as Phenom II. Do you see my point?

I agree .
Sounds like another AMD user going through buyers remorse .
Fact is the PII ( both) is equal to the Q9550 and going from the rig you have now to a Q6600 would be a loss in performance . Intel is a higher priced plat form for a reason THEY OUT PERFORM the comp right now so AMD took the new line PII's and lined them up according to how well they perform against the comp line up thus the $275.00 is = to the Q9550 in price ( CPU only ) .

johnnyfiive · Jan 12, 2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

I agree .
Sounds like another AMD user going through buyers remorse .
Fact is the PII ( both) is equal to the Q9550 and going from the rig you have now to a Q6600 would be a loss in performance . Intel is a higher priced plat form for a reason THEY OUT PERFORM the comp right now so AMD took the new line PII's and lined them up according to how well they perform against the comp line up thus the $275.00 is = to the Q9550 in price ( CPU only ) .

Makes sense. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=73266

johnnyfiive · Jan 12, 2009, 07:34 PM

Nope? Didn't see it. Pmsg?

Darren · Jan 12, 2009, 07:37 PM

In your situation, you would be better off buying the Phenom 9950 BE because it performs similarly to the Q6600 whilst being cheaper. This is re-enforced by the fact that you can keep your existing motherboard and hence saving even more money.

I know getting burnt isn't nice, but it was your own lack of research that lead to that happening, spending even more money for a Q-series build for the same performance as a 9950 BE is going to burn you even more.

Edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by r9

Q6600 is great cpu. I think Q6600 is the one processor that makes PII look bad. At the price that it comes and maybe it will go down little more.

Your advice is really bad, even if the Q6600 was reduced by half the price, he would still need to change motherboard sockets, when he could keep his existing board an pop in a Phenom 9950 BE.

Edit 2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmang

It was just a thought. I won't be going to Intel. It's a bit too late for that. I might as well get the 940, sell the 9600BE and stop bitching.

Sounds like a plan

Edit 3:

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

Well as this is a prudent plan of action to say that it is "too late" to go to Intel is not all that true . You can if you really want to but you would have to spend a whole lota cash and to get any thing better than AMD is offering it would have to be the Q9550 ( this is what I plan on getting ) as this would be as good as AMD's top quad core CPU att .

But the difference between you and the threadstarter is...

you haven't invested money in a MSI K9A2 Platinum 790FX socket AM2 already.

....in addition to a Phenom 9600 BE

...your already on socket 775, so going Q9550 isn't a big issue

suraswami · Jan 12, 2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmang

To all the previous and current Phenom B2 owners, have you or are you going back to Intel? Reason I ask is because I'm kinda thinking of doing so myself. I was looking at the price of the Phenom II 940 ($275) and it bugs me the more I think about it. $275... TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE dollars. A Q6600 is $190. $275 minus $190 is $85. Take the $85 and get the GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L motherboard and now you have a quad core rig that is easily overclocked for the price of a Phenom II 940. Anyone else in the same boat as me?

If I were you I will just wait for a month or 2 until the dust settles and the 940 will pretty much be under $200.

I too get frustrated with my B2 Phenom (hey atleast I got 2.6+ stable), but its the fault of my ECS board not giving voltage options to OC her. I am thinking of going to next step up the 9850, then wait for a while and get the AM3 945 or something. The B2 phenom might go to my media center (which is a overkill).

I hope I am making a useful comment.

r9 · Jan 12, 2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmang

To all the previous and current Phenom B2 owners, have you or are you going back to Intel? Reason I ask is because I'm kinda thinking of doing so myself. I was looking at the price of the Phenom II 940 ($275) and it bugs me the more I think about it. $275... TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE dollars. A Q6600 is $190. $275 minus $190 is $85. Take the $85 and get the GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L motherboard and now you have a quad core rig that is easily overclocked for the price of a Phenom II 940. Anyone else in the same boat as me?

Q6600 is great cpu. I think Q6600 is the one processor that makes PII look bad. At the price that it comes and maybe it will go down little more.

johnnyfiive · Jan 12, 2009, 08:55 PM

It was just a thought. I won't be going to Intel. It's a bit too late for that. I might as well get the 940, sell the 9600BE and stop bitching.

cdawall · Jan 12, 2009, 08:59 PM

get a 920 they clock very well many have already seen 3.8ghz out of them and they are cheaper

trickson · Jan 12, 2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmang

It was just a thought. I won't be going to Intel. It's a bit too late for that. I might as well get the 940, sell the 9600BE and stop bitching.

Well as this is a prudent plan of action to say that it is "too late" to go to Intel is not all that true . You can if you really want to but you would have to spend a whole lota cash and to get any thing better than AMD is offering it would have to be the Q9550 ( this is what I plan on getting ) as this would be as good as AMD's top quad core CPU att .

trickson · Jan 12, 2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren

But the difference between you and the threadstarter is...

you haven't invested money in a MSI K9A2 Platinum 790FX socket AM2 already.

....in addition to a Phenom 9600 BE

OH yeah I agree the best course of action for the OP is to get the 920 this would be far better than having to start from scratch unless of course you have a lot of scratch to begin with

Jan 12, 2009, 05:26 PM	#1
johnnyfiive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,975 (1.60/day) Thanks: 740 Thanked 856 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	Previous & current Phenom B2 owners... question for you. To all the previous and current Phenom B2 owners, have you or are you going back to Intel? Reason I ask is because I'm kinda thinking of doing so myself. I was looking at the price of the Phenom II 940 ($275) and it bugs me the more I think about it. $275... TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE dollars. A Q6600 is $190. $275 minus $190 is $85. Take the $85 and get the GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L motherboard and now you have a quad core rig that is easily overclocked for the price of a Phenom II 940. Anyone else in the same boat as me? __________________ [o_0] - GO BUCKEYES! ------------------------------------------------------ HEATWARE /MY KEYBOARD / VIDEO OF MY LGA 2011 RIG ------------------------------------------------------ Steam: johnnyfiive ORIGIN: johnny5iive League of Legends: 5iive

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johnnyfiive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,975 (1.60/day) Thanks: 740 Thanked 856 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	It was just a thought. I won't be going to Intel. It's a bit too late for that. I might as well get the 940, sell the 9600BE and stop bitching. __________________ [o_0] - GO BUCKEYES! ------------------------------------------------------ HEATWARE /MY KEYBOARD / VIDEO OF MY LGA 2011 RIG ------------------------------------------------------ Steam: johnnyfiive ORIGIN: johnny5iive League of Legends: 5iive

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