Need some advice on upgrade/New build...

IggSter · Jan 11, 2009, 09:17 PM

I have two questions if anyone can help me....

1. I have a gaming rig with:

AMD x 2 5600 (Brisbane)
Asus M2N-SLI deluxe (AM2)
8800GTS 512
2 Gig DDR2 6400
XP pro 32 bit

I want to upgrade the CPU (this will be the last upgrade before I build a new gaming rig)

Im considering either:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.20GHz (Socket AM2)
or
AMD Phenom X4 Quad Core 9950 2.60GHz Black Edition (Socket AM2)

Question is: Which will I see the biggest performance increase from at stock speeds?

2. I'm about to order the parts for a home server which will run a number of different services 24/7 (media streaming, web server etc etc)

I'm considering a Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) for the CPU.

1st question is:

Does anyone have any alternative CPU they would recommend for this job? (Quad core-low power)

2nd question:

What motherboard would you recommend for this CPU?
(It must support 8Gig of ram, overclocking is NOT a factor, must be incredibly good quality and as future proof as can be expected)

Thanks in advance

blkhogan · Jan 11, 2009, 11:22 PM

1. 9950
2. I use this for my server at work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103255
Mobo Love this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128
Just a thought. Are you set on Intel for the server?

IggSter · Jan 11, 2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkhogan

1. 9950
2. I use this for my server at work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103255
Mobo Love this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128
Just a thought. Are you set on Intel for the server?

No I'm not set on anything atm.

I currently run 2 x P4 3Ghz servers that use approx 180w each at full load and the plan is to have the new server replace these. That's the main reason I need a quad core due to the number of services it will run.

B1gg3stN00b · Jan 11, 2009, 11:31 PM

Opteron.

That's all I gots to say

blkhogan · Jan 11, 2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B1gg3stN00b

Opteron.

That's all I gots to say

Good call. Here you go http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819105210

B1gg3stN00b · Jan 12, 2009, 12:00 AM

Yeah, you really can't get more heat and energy efficient than an Opteron!

IggSter · Jan 12, 2009, 12:06 AM

Thanks for that, I'd completely forgotten about those

Any motherboard you would recommend?

spearman914 · Jan 12, 2009, 12:08 AM

how bout going Phenom II?

LittleLizard · Jan 12, 2009, 12:20 AM

@spearman914 could be for his rig BUT not for his server.

IggSter · Jan 12, 2009, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

how bout going Phenom II?

Well that's the thing, I really dont know and I'm looking for advice.

What I do want is 4 cores and 8Gig ram, I have all the disks I need, case and a 7800GT so its just a CPU/Mobo combo that will run:

Apache
MySQL
Web Jukebox application (Java/Tomcat)
A few http/php/mysql web apps
iTunes
Real time down sampling/transcoding
FTP server

This will be running 24/7 and being accessed by 5-10 users.

My 2 x P4 3Ghz PCs just about handle this but are very noisy and use a ton of power.

spearman914 · Jan 12, 2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleLizard

@spearman914 could be for his rig BUT not for his server.

Yea obviously. I didn't think i have to mention for someone to realize.

IggSter · Jan 12, 2009, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

Yea obviously. I didn't think i have to mention for someone to realize.

I'm 99% sure the mobo in the gaming rig in OP will not accept a PII

blkhogan · Jan 12, 2009, 04:58 AM

You cant go wrong with the Biostar board I suggested. An Opti would fit in it very nicely.

HolyCow02 · Jan 12, 2009, 04:01 PM

Definitely go with an opty for the server. Thats what the are built for (they have better silicon than the mainstream chips) I love my opty, can't say a bad thing about it.

blkhogan · Jan 12, 2009, 11:20 PM

I personaly have never owned an Opti, but by reputation they kick ass.

HolyCow02 · Jan 13, 2009, 03:17 PM

They do! I am personally messing with my overclock again. I had the voltage set to auto which was dumb. Still don't know if I should change the HTlink from auto...

Jan 11, 2009, 09:17 PM	#1
IggSter Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BY-S36 Posts: 422 (0.20/day) Thanks: 137 Thanked 120 Times in 102 Posts System Specs	Need some advice on upgrade/New build... I have two questions if anyone can help me.... 1. I have a gaming rig with: AMD x 2 5600 (Brisbane) Asus M2N-SLI deluxe (AM2) 8800GTS 512 2 Gig DDR2 6400 XP pro 32 bit I want to upgrade the CPU (this will be the last upgrade before I build a new gaming rig) Im considering either: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.20GHz (Socket AM2) or AMD Phenom X4 Quad Core 9950 2.60GHz Black Edition (Socket AM2) Question is: Which will I see the biggest performance increase from at stock speeds? 2. I'm about to order the parts for a home server which will run a number of different services 24/7 (media streaming, web server etc etc) I'm considering a Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) for the CPU. 1st question is: Does anyone have any alternative CPU they would recommend for this job? (Quad core-low power) 2nd question: What motherboard would you recommend for this CPU? (It must support 8Gig of ram, overclocking is NOT a factor, must be incredibly good quality and as future proof as can be expected) Thanks in advance __________________

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Jan 11, 2009, 11:22 PM	#2
blkhogan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: If I told u.. I'd have to kill u Posts: 1,845 (0.87/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 648 Times in 446 Posts System Specs	1. 9950 2. I use this for my server at work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103255 Mobo Love this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128 Just a thought. Are you set on Intel for the server?

Jan 11, 2009, 11:31 PM	#4
B1gg3stN00b Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 672 (0.33/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 111 Times in 102 Posts System Specs	Opteron. That's all I gots to say

Jan 12, 2009, 12:00 AM	#6
B1gg3stN00b Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 672 (0.33/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 111 Times in 102 Posts System Specs	Yeah, you really can't get more heat and energy efficient than an Opteron!

Jan 12, 2009, 12:06 AM	#7
IggSter Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BY-S36 Posts: 422 (0.20/day) Thanks: 137 Thanked 120 Times in 102 Posts System Specs	Thanks for that, I'd completely forgotten about those Any motherboard you would recommend? __________________

Jan 12, 2009, 12:08 AM	#8
spearman914 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brooklyn, New York 11223 Posts: 3,000 (1.61/day) Thanks: 339 Thanked 510 Times in 482 Posts System Specs	how bout going Phenom II? __________________ .................................................. .. “Originally Posted by mlee49 So pain level on a 1 to 10 scale, 10 being having a wart removed on your butthole with pliers.”

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Jan 12, 2009, 12:20 AM	#9
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Jan 12, 2009, 04:58 AM	#13
blkhogan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: If I told u.. I'd have to kill u Posts: 1,845 (0.87/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 648 Times in 446 Posts System Specs	You cant go wrong with the Biostar board I suggested. An Opti would fit in it very nicely.

Jan 12, 2009, 04:01 PM	#14
HolyCow02 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,251 (0.69/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 114 Times in 107 Posts System Specs	Definitely go with an opty for the server. Thats what the are built for (they have better silicon than the mainstream chips) I love my opty, can't say a bad thing about it. __________________ thanks to stefanels for the sig!

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Jan 12, 2009, 11:20 PM	#15
blkhogan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: If I told u.. I'd have to kill u Posts: 1,845 (0.87/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 648 Times in 446 Posts System Specs	I personaly have never owned an Opti, but by reputation they kick ass.

Jan 13, 2009, 03:17 PM	#16
HolyCow02 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,251 (0.69/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 114 Times in 107 Posts System Specs	They do! I am personally messing with my overclock again. I had the voltage set to auto which was dumb. Still don't know if I should change the HTlink from auto... __________________ thanks to stefanels for the sig!

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