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Old Jan 25, 2009, 01:02 PM   #1
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What's better? GTX260 216 or HD4870?

Which card is better & why?
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 02:26 PM   #2
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seems like I remember a thread about this topic from somewhere...

260 216 OCs better than the 4870 so you might get better performance post-OC (assuming no v-mods..etc). Also supports physx.

4870 supports dx10.1 which (I think) means it will have dx11 support in windows 7, and supports HDMI output for HTPCs as well as a few other features. correct me if I am wrong.

this is the closest thread I could find to the topic, but I think there is one on the TPU forums as well..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=215396
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Depends on the game, resolution, and benchmarking program. Sometimes the 260 will have the advantage and others the 4870 will.

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The 260 seems to be slightly better in most benches, but at very high resolutions with AA turned on, the 4870 wins. The 260 overclocks good as well.
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At this point, get whichever is cheaper. They are both very good cards. Each has minor advantages over the other, but nothing that I would be worried about. You should be happy with either.
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I'd say the GTX 260 is a little better
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 06:38 PM   #7
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I'd say 260 but then again that would be kinda biased I picked it over the 4870 1gb because it came with a free game and was by EVGA the only manufacturer I trust. Pick whatever is cheaper tbh.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 06:40 PM   #8
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seems like I remember a thread about this topic from somewhere...

260 216 OCs better than the 4870 so you might get better performance post-OC (assuming no v-mods..etc). Also supports physx.

4870 supports dx10.1 which (I think) means it will have dx11 support in windows 7, and supports HDMI output for HTPCs as well as a few other features. correct me if I am wrong.

this is the closest thread I could find to the topic, but I think there is one on the TPU forums as well..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=215396
Unfortunately not as it would lack certain features such as a dx11 compatible tesselator (the tesselators in the hd2, 3 and 4 series cards are not compatible with dx11).

I'd go with the 4870 as it has good sound through hdmi without any internal cabling plus you never know if there will be dx10.1 support in future games, although physx support of the nvidia card could be a nice feature, i guess it depends if you are interested in physx support or not.
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both are good cards. I would get whichever is cheaper. I have a 4870 and love it, and people say the same about the 260... can't go wrong with either
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As said, it kind of depends( also depends on company preference for some), but the GTX 260 should pull ahead in most games and what not, but then again the GDDR5 should do some damage in some other games(expecally if its the 1GB version), Plus the 4870 is cheaper overall. But then again you could go with a SSC or FTW version(more expensive) of the GTX's and that has proven it self over the 4870 in most situations.


This should explain most of it.
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GTX260 216 OC > 4870 1 gb > 4870 512mb For $20 more i would go with GTX260.
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wow... there are so many threads about this.
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wow... there are so many threads about this.
a lot of peeps don't use the "Search" button on the gray bar on top.
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Hd4870 Hands Down! Yeah
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Having owned both, albeit the Palit 1GB HD4870 Sonic only briefly the 260 is the better card IMO, even in the few games where the 4870 gets a couple of FPS higher, the 260 still feels smoother and more accomplished for some reason but in the UK, the 260 is mostly around £40 more than a 1GB 4870 with that amount of difference I would probably take the 4870.
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Having owned both, albeit the Palit 1GB HD4870 Sonic only briefly the 260 is the better card IMO, even in the few games where the 4870 gets a couple of FPS higher, the 260 still feels smoother and more accomplished for some reason but in the UK, the 260 is mostly around £40 more than a 1GB 4870 with that amount of difference I would probably take the 4870.
Why did you go to a 4850?

EDIT: Nevermind, i guess the CF 4850s out perform them.
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Having owned both, albeit the Palit 1GB HD4870 Sonic only briefly the 260 is the better card IMO, even in the few games where the 4870 gets a couple of FPS higher, the 260 still feels smoother and more accomplished for some reason but in the UK, the 260 is mostly around £40 more than a 1GB 4870 with that amount of difference I would probably take the 4870.
I've got a 4870 512MB & 8800GTX and I noticed the same thing sometimes, even though the GTX is slower. It seemed to have a little less hitches mainly. The differences weren't very marked though and the 4870 still games very well indeed.
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Why did you go to a 4850?

EDIT: Nevermind, i guess the CF 4850s out perform them.
Spot on, these 2 cards just scale beautifully and overclock amazingly to the value of almost 24000 3D mark 2006 points but more importantly in games they run so much cooler than the 260 did. basically when I got them, it was GTX280 beating performance for a little over the price of a decent 260 but I did get a good deal.
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