Core i7: Now or Later?

FordGT90Concept · Feb 19, 2009, 10:11 PM

I'm ready to buy now but I can't decide whether or not I should wait for the new steppings. Planned parts:

1 x Core i7 920 (C0 or D0)
3 x 2 GiB OCZ Gold DDR3-1600
1 x Asus P6T (x58 B2)

Vote on the poll...

The computer that will be upgraded is in my System Specs.

Fitseries3 · Feb 19, 2009, 10:17 PM

asus x58's are starting to look bad. go for a DFI

dont need expensive ddr3 either. just get cheap crucial 1066mhz sticks like me. they hit 2000mhz easy and cost only $60

lilkiduno · Feb 19, 2009, 10:19 PM

I am waiting for mid-late march for my refund anyways why not get the new stepping

Fitseries3 · Feb 19, 2009, 10:21 PM

its all in the mobo... not the cpu. you cant go much over 4.6ghz with a 920 cause the QPI gets out of its operating range. new stepping wont solve that.

Flyordie · Feb 19, 2009, 10:23 PM

new steppings will fix some of the TLB issues and improve the IMC... so later.

n-ster · Feb 19, 2009, 10:38 PM

510$ Mobo + 920
great memory... what Fit is referring to
6gb version of it

for mobo, AGAIN like Fit said, DFI is a good choice too... or the rampage if you really want an unbeatable board...

Fitseries3 · Feb 19, 2009, 10:41 PM

i got my DFI for $200 shipped

$50 for 3x1gb ram

and 920 for $220

thats $470.

assuming you have a computer already... the rest of the parts you should already have.

SystemViper · Feb 19, 2009, 10:44 PM

From what i heard the new stepping is just cosmetic, no electronics./

get a bloodrage

BLOODRAGE

skip the asus, like fit said, they need better bios and pwm

DRDNA · Feb 19, 2009, 10:44 PM

DFI have been my favorite for a nice long time and still are. ....But i do like the stability this AsusP6T deluxe is giving me nice and rock steady at 4.2GHZ (better cooling and it would be even higher)Go for it ...I bet you'll be glad you did.

HolyCow02 · Feb 19, 2009, 11:03 PM

i'd say wait for the new stepping of the 920... why go with the older one when the newer one is so close?

DRDNA · Feb 19, 2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyCow02

i'd say wait for the new stepping of the 920... why go with the older one when the newer one is so close?

but you never know ...I remember last Quads...the first stepping Q6600 clocked better than the later.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Feb 19, 2009, 11:26 PM

The first stepping of the Q6600 was teh B3 and depending on the board clocked like shit. Then the G0 came out and they clocked better with better temps. Then the third round of Q66's came out and they clocked for shit.

If its only cosmetic changes, just get it now.

Binge · Feb 19, 2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyordie

new steppings will fix some of the TLB issues and improve the IMC... so later.

read the erratas, all TLB issues have been fixed with motherboard bios updates. IMC improvements have yet to be brought to the table. The revision is to specify which chips are made via the new more eco friendly manufacturing process.

FordGT90Concept · Feb 20, 2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

asus x58's are starting to look bad. go for a DFI

dont need expensive ddr3 either. just get cheap crucial 1066mhz sticks like me. they hit 2000mhz easy and cost only $60

What DFI?

I need 6 GiB memory and preferable of the DDR3-1600 variety so if I do decide to drop another processor in later on, I won't have to get more memory. The difference between DDR3-1333 and DDR3-1600 is only like $10 so its foolish not to.

I don't intend to overclock anything at all (except maybe fans XD).

Fitseries3 · Feb 20, 2009, 01:09 AM

you DONT need 1600mhz ram. its just a lable and SPD program. its no different from the sticks i have.

x58-t3eh6

ShadowFold · Feb 20, 2009, 01:11 AM

EVGA FTW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188039

FordGT90Concept · Feb 20, 2009, 01:14 AM

Needs PS/2 mouse and keyboard (I use KVM).

SystemViper · Feb 20, 2009, 01:14 AM

can't wait till the evga "classified" comes out!

n-ster · Feb 20, 2009, 01:15 AM

Fit... how the hell did you get a 200$ deal on DFI? and 220$ on the 920?

ShadowFold · Feb 20, 2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Needs PS/2 mouse and keyboard (I use KVM).

Not sure what that is but they do make USB to PS/2 converters. I highly recommend that EVGA board, I know a few people that have it and it's pretty sweet. Even broke some OCing records.

Fitseries3 · Feb 20, 2009, 01:16 AM

ever try looking? thats all you have to do. not trying to be mean but it seems no one shops around anymore. they just click and buy.

n-ster · Feb 20, 2009, 01:21 AM

Fit... you have an eye for deals

but srsly... I'm pretty sure most ppl will have hard time finding a 300$ board for 2/3rds of its price as well as the i7 for 220$...

J-Man · Feb 20, 2009, 01:24 AM

I'll be upgrading in April-May time so I say then.

Fitseries3 · Feb 20, 2009, 01:25 AM

microcenter and frys both have i7 920's for $229. how do you miss a deal like that?

there are lots of used ones for $220 or so as well.

as for the boards... just look in other forums. everyone seems to be selling them. i could find 10 in the next 15mins if you wanted to get one that bad.

all im saying is STOP paying the price that newegg has listed and look for an actual deal. openbox at newegg is the first place i'd look. then look at hardforums, evga marketplace, OCN, XS, anandtech, etc.

n-ster · Feb 20, 2009, 01:30 AM

Fits the man! yea I don't live in the US atm... so that's why I missed microcenter and frys... thxs for the tips

View Poll Results: Upgrade now or later?
No sense waiting for technology (now).	12	26.67%
Wait for Core i7 D0 stepping (mid-late March).	8	17.78%
Wait for x58 B3 stepping (mid-late April).	13	28.89%
Indifferent.	12	26.67%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

Feb 19, 2009, 10:11 PM	#1
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Feb 19, 2009, 10:19 PM	#3
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Feb 19, 2009, 10:21 PM	#4
Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.20/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	its all in the mobo... not the cpu. you cant go much over 4.6ghz with a 920 cause the QPI gets out of its operating range. new stepping wont solve that.

Feb 19, 2009, 10:23 PM	#5
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Feb 19, 2009, 10:44 PM	#8
SystemViper Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,304 (1.15/day) Thanks: 693 Thanked 477 Times in 396 Posts	From what i heard the new stepping is just cosmetic, no electronics./ get a bloodrage BLOODRAGE skip the asus, like fit said, they need better bios and pwm __________________ HEAT

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Feb 19, 2009, 11:03 PM	#10
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n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.12/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	Fit... how the hell did you get a 200$ deal on DFI? and 220$ on the 920?

Feb 20, 2009, 01:16 AM	#21
Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.20/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	ever try looking? thats all you have to do. not trying to be mean but it seems no one shops around anymore. they just click and buy.

Feb 20, 2009, 01:21 AM	#22
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.12/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	Fit... you have an eye for deals but srsly... I'm pretty sure most ppl will have hard time finding a 300$ board for 2/3rds of its price as well as the i7 for 220$...

Feb 20, 2009, 01:24 AM	#23
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Feb 20, 2009, 01:25 AM	#24
Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.20/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	microcenter and frys both have i7 920's for $229. how do you miss a deal like that? there are lots of used ones for $220 or so as well. as for the boards... just look in other forums. everyone seems to be selling them. i could find 10 in the next 15mins if you wanted to get one that bad. all im saying is STOP paying the price that newegg has listed and look for an actual deal. openbox at newegg is the first place i'd look. then look at hardforums, evga marketplace, OCN, XS, anandtech, etc.

Feb 20, 2009, 01:30 AM	#25
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.12/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	Fits the man! yea I don't live in the US atm... so that's why I missed microcenter and frys... thxs for the tips

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