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you did, and i tested them, to do nearly everything, a good Kit should do.
thats great news i think if i got DDR3 i will get them or the Trident
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dont buy the i7, i believe magny corus will beat it to death.
Nope, because Intel will be releasing i9 around the same time. Hexacore + HTT. Intel will still be on top.
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Nope, because Intel will be releasing i9 around the same time. Hexacore + HTT. Intel will still be on top.
so if this is true i should get a X58 if i have the money?
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so if this is true i should get a X58 if i have the money?
Probably. It still has the best upgrade potential of all the platforms. You just pay a premium for that potential in mobo costs.
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Nope, because Intel will be releasing i9 around the same time. Hexacore + HTT. Intel will still be on top.
how much money do you want a 17year old to invest?
1000 dollars,roughly estimated? i dont think intel can beat AMD in price, even if they claim like 10-15 percent performance more,and 4 more "virtual" cores with the i9.
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how much money do you want a 17year old to invest?
1000 dollars,roughly estimated? i dont think intel can beat AMD in price, even if they claim like 10-15 percent performance more, with the i9.
don't forget i don't have a job I'm looking at a i5 setup. It would be around $400 or a new mobo and a Phenom II
PII would be about $320. What would be better i5 750 or PII 925
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don't forget i don't have a job I'm looking at a i5 setup. It would be around $400 or a new mobo and a Phenom II
PII would be about $320. What would be better i5 750 or PII 925
the i5 would clock better... at least that i now know
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the i5 would clock better... at least that i now know
so i would have to think about if it would be worth the extra money... I'm starting to think i want to grab the Destroyer and PII 925 and be done with it. I know it wouldn't be as upgradeable but it would just give me a reason to buy a new board and ram later on which in turn would mean another rig for crunching on
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6 more virtual cores. i9 is 6 real + 6 virtual.
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so i would have to think about if it would be worth the extra money... I'm starting to think i want to grab the Destroyer and PII 925 and be done with it. I know it wouldn't be as upgradeable but it would just give me a reason to buy a new board and ram later on which in turn would mean another rig for crunching on
at least you will get 4 slots for acceptable money

sorry wile, i thought it was an octacore... magny cours should have 12 real cores, am i right?
do you believe the i9 can win with 6 "half" cores...? i would consider 2 threads worth a core...
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at least you will get 4 slots for acceptable money
I can see any advantage to that... When i upgrade have a quad crunching and have the video cards i have now folding... But i would have to have a beefy PSU for that ... I think the Destroyer is in my future(or atleast it will be if i get the $$$)

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sorry wile, i thought it was an octacore... magny cours should have 12 real cores, am i right?
do you believe the i9 can win with 6 "half" cores...? i would consider 2 threads worth a core...
Yes it is a 12 real core and the i9 is 6 real 6 HT. I can see 12 real cores beating 6real
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I can see any advantage to that... When i upgrade have a quad crunching and have the video cards i have now folding... But i would have to have a beefy PSU for that ... I think the Destroyer is in my future(or atleast it will be if i get the $$$)

Yes it is a 12 real core and the i9 is 6 real 6 HT. I can see 12 real cores beating 6real
dependant on the cards, between 700 to 1200 watt, i believe. but about 800 for 4 8800 gt, if im right.

i just wait for the first benchies :P
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dependant on the cards, between 700 to 1200 watt, i believe. but about 800 for 4 8800 gt, if im right.

i just wait for the first benchies :P
just alittle short of my 710w PSU that i have... Hmm maybe when the time comes i will just get a PSU for 2 of the cards and run the other 2 on the main PSU..
BTW if i get the parts i am wanting i will PM you with benchies

I am also waiting for the benches of the 12core chip vs the i9 should be a nice show
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sorry wile, i thought it was an octacore... magny cours should have 12 real cores, am i right?
do you believe the i9 can win with 6 "half" cores...? i would consider 2 threads worth a core...
Magny has not been confirmed to ever come to the desktop chipsets in 12 core form.
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that is true.. Last i knew it was confirmed to be coming to a server(coming to a server near you)
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they should better do, or they will loose a customer. i want progress,dammit!!!
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they should better do, or they will loose a customer. i want progress,dammit!!!
you could just switch over to a server board and FB-DIMMs if you want 12 cores that bad
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you could just switch over to a server board and FB-DIMMs if you want 12 cores that bad
you know how much these boards will cost... and i have to buy new ram, nooooo!!!
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you know how much these boards will cost... and i have to buy new ram, nooooo!!!
I don't think it would be worth it. give them time.The way it is going 12core will be to desktop before you know it. maybe not next year but a 1-3years from now i bet there will be a 12core

keep in mind most of the time AMD puts out there server chips then the desktop chips follow not too long after
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I don't think it would be worth it. give them time.The way it is going 12core will be to desktop before you know it. maybe not next year but a 1-3years from now i bet there will be a 12core
and i want software and games supporting it, yay!
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and i want software and games supporting it, yay!
give that about 5years there just now starting to support 4cores on alot of things
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give that about 5years there just now starting to support 4cores on alot of things
quadcore must become standard
how complicated is it, to transfer a game or app to bigger multicore usage?
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no idea i suck ass at programing. But from what i have read it isn't that hard and alot of games/apps can be "patched" to run multicores by the developer fairly easy
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no idea i suck ass at programing. But from what i have read it isn't that hard and alot of games/apps can be "patched" to run multicores by the developer fairly easy
reminds me of gates "64bit prophecy", 10 years ago...
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I want the i9's and the magny cours's to hurry up and come out... So, the i7's will drop in price and just buy 5 or 6 of them and cluster them... hehehe
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