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Old Dec 7, 2009, 12:59 AM   #5176
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I think the PII would be a better upgrade for me because my X2 is kinda old. and to be honest your post confused me
Sorry. I'll try to clarify it.

From what I understand, you were considering upgrading the 5K BE in your main rig, or the P4 I sent you.

Lets say the 5K BE gets ~750 PPD, which seems reasonable for it. I believe you said the P4 gets ~550?

If so, you currently get 1300 from those 2 computers.

Say you upgraded to a Q8200, which would get ~1300 PPD. A very good upgrade over the P4, especially when OCed. In this case, you would get about 2050 PPD.

If you upgraded the X2 to a Phenom II that got ~1300 PPD as well, you then would be getting ~1850 PPD or so.

Therefore, the Q8200/Q8400 would be a better upgrade
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thanks Ion that helped clear things up alot. I'm also just thinking about the fact that the main rig is being used for benching/gaming also so in my everyday task the PII would be better but when you take WCG into consideration you have a vary good point. maybe i can post a WTB thread here after Xmas and possibly pick both of them up(if the price is in my budget) now that would be a great upgrade or if i can't get the money for that how does a PII(or Athlon II x4 ) and a cheap C2D(celly or pentium based) for the P4 rig? That would give me more points then just a quad(wouldn't it)
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thanks Ion that helped clear things up alot. I'm also just thinking about the fact that the main rig is being used for benching/gaming also so in my everyday task the PII would be better but when you take WCG into consideration you have a vary good point. maybe i can post a WTB thread here after Xmas and possibly pick both of them up(if the price is in my budget) now that would be a great upgrade or if i can't get the money for that how does a PII(or Athlon II x4 ) and a cheap C2D(celly or pentium based) for the P4 rig? That would give me more points then just a quad(wouldn't it)
Personally, I'd upgrade the main rig. You wouldn't get as many WCG points, but using your computer would be a lot more enjoyable.
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thanks Ion that helped clear things up alot. I'm also just thinking about the fact that the main rig is being used for benching/gaming also so in my everyday task the PII would be better but when you take WCG into consideration you have a vary good point. maybe i can post a WTB thread here after Xmas and possibly pick both of them up(if the price is in my budget) now that would be a great upgrade or if i can't get the money for that how does a PII(or Athlon II x4 ) and a cheap C2D(celly or pentium based) for the P4 rig? That would give me more points then just a quad(wouldn't it)
That sounds good, maybe an Athlon II X4 for the main rig and then an E5200/E3200 for the WCG rig. The E5200 or whatever should be ~850-900 PPD OCed, maybe around 1500 for the Athlon (OCed, of course ) So around 2400 PPD total
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Newtekie has an E5something and an E7something for sale in his thread, maybe look there?
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what do you guys think would benefit me most (don't have money to do both) Get a cheap quad (q8400 maybe) and put in the dedicated folding/crunching rig or get a cheap quad for the main rig(it also crunches/folds) check the specs of main rig if needed... But i would get a P II 925 or A II x4 920

also what would give better PPD a P II 925 or a q8200? Both stock(just for comparison both would be OCed but don't know how high)
Well I've recently taken the Phenom II plunge so I'll give you a little of my opinion.

First off, 775 is dead. Its sad, but true. The major benefit of going Phenom II is you have an actual upgrade path, whether its to a 6core or a better quad. The down side is that Phenom II's are slower than most C2Qs but not the Q8400. I think the Q8400 and Athlon X4 could be equal with the right clocks. I think the 925s larger Cache would make it a better choice than the Q8400 @ stock.
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Newtekie has an E5something and an E7something for sale in his thread, maybe look there?
don't have the money till after Xmas and not sure how much i will have or i would...
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That sounds good, maybe an Athlon II X4 for the main rig and then an E5200/E3200 for the WCG rig. The E5200 or whatever should be ~850-900 PPD OCed, maybe around 1500 for the Athlon (OCed, of course ) So around 2400 PPD total
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i was just looking at the E3200 and teh X4 620 will be about $150 for both and thats about the cost of the q8200 its self

also keep in mind i am running a cheap board that doesn't support much overclocking(in the s775 rig)
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Sorry, just noticed I never replied with what my crunchers are. So, without further ado:

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Sorry, just noticed I never replied with what my crunchers are. So, without further ado:

q9550
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Awesome! That's a lot of rigs!
Would you mind sharing pics of them in the WCG rig gallery?


On another note, it looks as if Chomes has lost most of his crunching power, he's down from his peak of 12k/day to around 1.5/2k per day
Still, he contributed an amazing amount to WCG while he lasted
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How is everybody doing today... I was down for about a week due to OS upgrade. Win7 baby, Win7...
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great that your back... But how did it take a week to go to Win7? I was only down for about 2hrs on each rig when i switched to win7... Things have been great with me no problems with the rigs at any rate welcome back and enjoy 7
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Is something wrong here?

If anybody would be so kind, please let me know if my i7 860 is crunching properly. I'm under DanishDevil on our team, and I thought I'd have enough points for the crunching badge by now, but looking at that page, I'm way off. Been running at stock with Turbo on, so 2.9ish GHz with HT.
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If anybody would be so kind, please let me know if my i7 860 is crunching properly. I'm under DanishDevil on our team, and I thought I'd have enough points for the crunching badge by now, but looking at that page, I'm way off. Been running at stock with Turbo on, so 2.9ish GHz with HT.
Is that the only rig you have crunching right now? Your 7 day average is 2k right now, which is a bit lower than what mine is with my i7 at 2.8GHz.

Are you crunching at 100%? 64 bit?
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If anybody would be so kind, please let me know if my i7 860 is crunching properly. I'm under DanishDevil on our team, and I thought I'd have enough points for the crunching badge by now, but looking at that page, I'm way off. Been running at stock with Turbo on, so 2.9ish GHz with HT.
You have to get 100k points to get a badge.

The 860 should get roughly 3.2k a day (a little over 2x my Q9400), so it shouldn't take too long. BTW, x64 (Windows and BOINC) gives ~10% better points than X32 does, but be prepared for all of your WUs to be credited under what was claimed, x64 has a long history of overclaiming. Even with this, it is still faster.
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Had to take down the q9550. Received the last of my parts for the i7 920 and wanted to put it in my "main rig" case (modded CM 690) and switch the q9550 to a spare antec 300. And ended up not getting either machine finished last night, wanted to get the 6in of snow off the driveway before snow started again. First snow of the season for us and it's being reported as up to 16in for my zip by Wednesday.

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Damnit! Its 20°F in Western WA, and I haven't seen a drop of precipitation in the last week!! Where you live flak?
 
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I have another mobo here that has been sitting for years. It is a P4/AGP board with built-in graphics and currently has a 2.4GHz P4. It appears that it will take any socket 478 processor. CPU Support List So my questions are:
Is it better to get a 3.0GHz(G1) P4 or a 2.93(D1) Celeron D? (found on CL)
Does HT matter?

Don't want to spend much, just want to play around with it, but may as well get some BOINC points in the process.
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