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Old Mar 10, 2010, 05:27 PM   #7701
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Ahh you mean the 4 GB of RAM and the two Veloraptors BTW I bought it in Germany. Shipping was about the same as the price I paid for the server.
shipping costs are the biggest pest of the newer time
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I like that idea. Id be willing to go in on it. I could give towards parts or shipping. There would have to be rules and qualifications or someone will try and take advantage of it somehow. I think it would stir up new people or present crunchers to push a little harder.
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Time goes by faster than you think!!! Here's an update on Dengue Fever:

This image was taken around 09:55 AM CST.


Then I noticed at 12:33 PM CST this...


The elapsed time is close but the time to completion has dropped by almost 14 hours in less than 3 hours.

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I like that idea. Id be willing to go in on it. I could give towards parts or shipping. There would have to be rules and qualifications or someone will try and take advantage of it somehow. I think it would stir up new people or present crunchers to push a little harder.
Yeah, bringing new crunchers to the team is the important bit. After all it's every new member that helps the team grow stronger. I suppose stats can be used to filter out people taking advantage. So say there was a competition like "Most points of May for newcomer" then even if that person were to take advantage after winning the prize, they would have had to crunch a nice amount first. Although it wouldn't make it any less the

Dunno, hopefuly if this is a worthy idea others can bring better suggestions. My time to plan things has gone now that I got a job
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Maybe if someone where to win a contest of this type would have to put up a certain number of units/points. The machine would be tagged with a name so that "we" (all of us) can monitor its progress. Once it reaches the number/unit it could then be used in any way the owner wants.
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Yeah, bringing new crunchers to the team is the important bit. After all it's every new member that helps the team grow stronger. I suppose stats can be used to filter out people taking advantage. So say there was a competition like "Most points of May for newcomer" then even if that person were to take advantage after winning the prize, they would have had to crunch a nice amount first. Although it wouldn't make it any less the

Dunno, hopefuly if this is a worthy idea others can bring better suggestions. My time to plan things has gone now that I got a job
A realy cool contest would be one that actually recruits new crunchers to the team.That would also level out the playing field of computing horsepower so no one would have an advantage at all.And give the chance to win to any member.
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Whoa! Guess who just got a WU for the new Dengue Fever project? Cruncher01 from system specs got it and it's estimated to take 27hr. Think [Ion] had one before, will be interesting how many points it's worth...
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Talking about Dengue Fever!

http://img.techpowerup.org/100310/WC...0-1-Dengue.jpg

I'll be an old man before that one completes! It's running on a stock Q6600. It better be worth 3 days of electricity!

http://stats.free-dc.org/projusertag...79378&theme=15
I had one on a stock-clocked Q6600...it took ~49 hours and was worth ~600 points
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Well, looks like there are some good ideas out there for a competition already. As Greasemonkey said, the idea and real benefit would come from focusing this on recruiting new team members. And as blkhogan pointed out, this would need some form of control, so it should be reasonably thought out beforehand.

My rig would be up for retirement in May, so sometime in April would be more appropriate. I suppose then the next thing would probably be to create a pre-competition discussion thread so we can all brainstorm this till we're proud and have it in some way announced to get newcomers' attention.

As an individual this seems a little far-fetched to me. But as a team I don't think it's beyond possibility to accomplish. If anyone else thinks by May they might have stuff to put in the pot or any suggestions PM me for now. I'll discuss with Chicken Patty too once I can present a semi-planned concept.
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You could use the same format that was used in the last WCG/F@H contest. It ran pretty smoothly and other members offered up parts (GPUs and CPUs) in addition to the main rig that POS won.
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I agree with KieX, it needs to be planed and carefully thought out. You will have a big influx of people from who knows where when it goes public. We need to make sure all the loopholes are closed. It would just be a matter of time before someone found a "backdoor' to cheat the system.
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You could use the same format that was used in the last WCG/F@H contest. It ran pretty smoothly and other members offered up parts (GPUs and CPUs) in addition to the main rig that POS won.
Oh right, damn! How did I miss that thread

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I agree with KieX, it needs to be planed and carefully thought out. You will have a big influx of people from who knows where when it goes public. We need to make sure all the loopholes are closed. It would just be a matter of time before someone found a "backdoor' to cheat the system.
Definitely, it would really be a shame to give away a complete system to someone who registered, crunched for 2 weeks, won the rig, and then never crunched again
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Definitely, it would really be a shame to give away a complete system to someone who registered, crunched for 2 weeks, won the rig, and then never crunched again
thats easy:
only for members, that were registered before the contest started.
would keep the sneaky guys out, but also,the ones that really want to crunch,sadly
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Man, I wanna catch the Fever too!!!!!!!
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The last contest spanned 90 days (IIRC) that way even if you just joined for the contest you at least contributed a good amount to the team. Its going to be impossible to 'make' the winner continue to crunch unless the winner is one of our long term dedicated members.
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thats easy:
only for members, that were registered before the contest started.
would keep the sneaky guys out, but also,the ones that really want to crunch,sadly
We could announce a "closing date" giving new people time to get in and set up to run. Then close the door during the competition.
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I like the closing date idea Blkhogan. Also being one that hasnt been her for overly long post and crunching wise, I would enter the contest just to donate more points I could care less about winning
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We could announce a "closing date" giving new people time to get in and set up to run. Then close the door during the competition.
there is always the chance, someone will borrow himself a computer room somewhere in a school etc. and wins the contest, even if he doesnt own a single rig.. its quite complicated, i have to admit.
that sounds right what you say, but we shouldnt wait too long
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It's unfortunate but it is true we can't force someone to crunch. Nor should we resort to that. The real pain is the thought that if we did achieve to get say 50 new members to the team, that 49 truly dedicated people may loose a prize to 1 person who only wanted to take the pot. And being fair is important.

Another thing I am considering is the possibility that maybe a true dedicated future cruncher may be impeded by monetary issues. A purely points based competition would favor those with the resources/money rather than those dedicated. After all it's those who will make the biggest difference to a team, not just the points.
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It's unfortunate but it is true we can't force someone to crunch. Nor should we resort to that. The real pain is the thought that if we did achieve to get say 50 new members to the team, that 49 truly dedicated people may loose a prize to 1 person who only wanted to take the pot. And being fair is important.

Another thing I am considering is the possibility that maybe a true dedicated future cruncher may be impeded by monetary issues. A purely points based competition would favor those with the resources/money rather than those dedicated. After all it's those who will make the biggest difference to a team, not just the points.
we could make it a lottery, for which to be in, you need a certain,fixed amount of points, in a fixed amount of time. from there on, the fortune will chose the winner,randomly (wasnt it like that during the wcg/fah contest?)
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i think there should be like 1st 2nd and 3rd places, depending on how much people are donating

so there wont be 1 person taking the whole pot, but thats just me

and imma join it anyways, dont really care about winning anything
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i think there should be like 1st 2nd and 3rd places, depending on how much people are donating

so there wont be 1 person taking the whole pot, but thats just me

and imma join it anyways, dont really care about winning anything
i have to admit, i would like to win
i could really need some new hardware to dangle around with it, and output atm... im a little short on money since a few months
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can someone tell me if this is ok to discuss here or should I open a pre-competition discussion thread?
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well it is a team thread so i guess anything related to the team is allowed?
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