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Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And buying a Q9550 is silly. The 940 is cheaper and performs the same.
And on the power supply, the Corsair 550w is Seasonic. Not channelwell. Which is why I recommended the 550w over the 650w but it doesn't really matter.

The 550 is Channelwell, but read my previous post as to why that doesn't matter.

ShadowFold · Mar 6, 2009, 02:00 AM

Oh I thought the 750 and 550 were Seasonic..

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:00 AM

Stop arguing in your comptalk and speak English please! I'm quite lost here.

RevengE · Mar 6, 2009, 02:01 AM

Give him a break he's really new to this, he is just making sure he is getting his money worth. Get a phenom II.

Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bokteelo

Stop arguing in your comptalk and speak English please! I'm quite lost here.

lol. OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer. It just means that Channel Well Technologies actual builds the Corsair PSU. But it is built to Corsair's specifications based on a Channel Well design.

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:05 AM

Is it possible to have 2 cooling fans? I want my computer to be as cool as f***ing possible!

And thanks for telling me what OEM stood for!

Revenge, so the PII X4 BE would be the way to go huh. (I'm going to shove in the AM3 socket mobo, so anybody have good recommendations for DDR3 RAM?)

ShadowFold · Mar 6, 2009, 02:12 AM

Hard to find some good priced DDR3..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150
I heard that set clocks REALLY well.

Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Hard to find some good priced DDR3..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150
I heard that set clocks REALLY well.

Or you can go for guaranteed speed for a few dollars more, like a 1600Mhz kit.

As an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220331

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:13 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150

Ouch, this will cost me another 25$!

Thanks, I'll include this.

Edit: Oh crap now Wile E is back with something for me.

WHAT TO DO WHAT TO DO??

Edit2: Ouch, Wile E your memory is a lot pricier. D:

ShadowFold · Mar 6, 2009, 02:21 AM

I think you should stick with DDR2 honestly.. I was gonna do DDR3 as well but it just doesn't seem worth it.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Mar 6, 2009, 02:23 AM

I couldn't agree more with the people telling you to go Phenom II 940BE. Right now newegg has a customer code to get an additional $10 off. (up through the 12th of March)
As for a motherboard, you'll end up paying a little extra for one that's PII ready, otherwise you might have to pick up a cheap Sempy (short for Semperon) to update the motherboard's bios.

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

I think you should stick with DDR2 honestly.. I was gonna do DDR3 as well but it just doesn't seem worth it.

Hm... Is there a mobo that supports DDR2 AND DDR3 RAM?

And one more time! Can I have 2 cooling fans?

So what it looks like so far:

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319
Cooling - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20HDT-S1284EE
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471
MB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128377
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150

So which memory and mobo am I going to be going for? I WANT to incrementally upgrade, but I don't absolutely need to. Only thing I'm going to upgrade is an extra 4870, I'll be satisfied with just that if nothing else is upgradeable.

ShadowFold · Mar 6, 2009, 02:26 AM

Two fans on the Xigmatek? No. You don't need two tho. And yes there are some upcoming boards that do both but like I said DDR2 is fine.

Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bokteelo

Hm... Is there a mobo that supports DDR2 AND DDR3 RAM?

And one more time! Can I have 2 cooling fans?

2 cooling fans for what?

And yes, there's an Asus board that supports both DDR2 and 3. It was posted earlier. It costs more than the other DDR3 boards tho, so it offsets the price of just going DDR3 to begin withh. Just grab the AM3 board, and the ram Shadow linked.

If you go with a DDR2 only board, you may as well just build the Q9550 setup, because you'll have to upgrade your board to upgrade your cpu down the road anyway.

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:36 AM

I've seen some gaming computers that have like, a billion fans. (Well, 2-3-4!) Like, 2 on the side, 1 on the top, something like that right?

And crap, which exactly is the AM3 board? I'll never be able to figure which is which unless told by experienced professionals, so if possible could you go back a few pages?

What exactly is RAM latency? And setting clocks with RAM?

-Lost-

Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bokteelo

I've seen some gaming computers that have like, a billion fans. (Well, 2-3-4!) Like, 2 on the side, 1 on the top, something like that right?

And crap, which exactly is the AM3 board? I'll never be able to figure which is which unless told by experienced professionals, so if possible could you go back a few pages?

What exactly is RAM latency? And setting clocks with RAM?

-Lost-

The more case fans you have, the cooler it will be. It will all depend on your case selection tho. You want at least 2 120mm fans on the case, 3 or 4 would be better, but not 100% needed in most cases.

We'll get to setting ram when you actually get it put together and have to worry about it. Until then, don't fuss about it too much.

I'd say this board for lower cost: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131366

Or this board for better Crossfire performance if you ever decide to go for 2 gfx cards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128377

And like I said in my previous post in an edit, if you go with a DDR2 board on AMD, you may as well just get the Q9550 setup because you'll likely have to replace the board to upgrade the cpu in either case.

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:44 AM

So this is what I've got:

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319
Cooling - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20HDT-S1284EE
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471
MB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128377
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150

Wile, let's put aside incremental upgrades aside from adding an extra HD 4870. What would be the best set up for NOW.

Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bokteelo

So this is what I've got:

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319
Cooling - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20HDT-S1284EE
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471
MB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128377
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150

Wile, let's put aside incremental upgrades aside from adding an extra HD 4870. What would be the best set up for NOW.

I'd say a P45 board, high speed DDR2 ram, and a Q9550.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Mar 6, 2009, 02:46 AM

Not really true, most of the current AM2+ boards are releasing bios updates to support AM3 and DDR3. I know that he doesn't know how to flash his bios, but if he's anything like anyone else who's ever joined this site he will know within a few months.

ShadowFold · Mar 6, 2009, 02:47 AM

Lookin good man. HD 4870 1gb would be the best to get now. You can get another later when they are super cheap.

Wile E · Mar 6, 2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

Not really true, most of the current AM2+ boards are releasing bios updates to support AM3 and DDR3. I know that he doesn't know how to flash his bios, but if he's anything like anyone else who's ever joined this site he will know within a few months.

AMD is dropping DDR2 support in their upcoming top of the line cpus. It was posted in their roadmap.

ShadowFold · Mar 6, 2009, 02:49 AM

He has a 790X and DDR3 kit listed. I say go for that stuff.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Mar 6, 2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

AMD is dropping DDR2 support in their upcoming top of the line cpus. It was posted in their roadmap.

I know this, but the 940 and upcoming 945 both support DDR2 still. If he gets a board that supports DDR2 and flashes the bios down the road he'll be all set to use DDR3.

Bokteelo · Mar 6, 2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

Not really true, most of the current AM2+ boards are releasing bios updates to support AM3 and DDR3. I know that he doesn't know how to flash his bios, but if he's anything like anyone else who's ever joined this site he will know within a few months.

Isn't flashing the bios extremely dangerous?

bigtye · Mar 6, 2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bokteelo

I've seen some gaming computers that have like, a billion fans. (Well, 2-3-4!) Like, 2 on the side, 1 on the top, something like that right?

-Lost-

yes you can have lots of case fans. many cases come with 2x12cm fans (one in front and one in back) but have spots for mounting more. How many fans you fit, comes down to how many the case is designed to have. Also you must then have enough power to power them all. The psu's (power supply units) you are looking at, corsair/channel well, are both good so you should be fine within reason.

Also, when you have picked all your parts, post up here before you buy and ask people tol tell you if the parts won't work together.

As to AM3 boards, many websites list the board as AM3 or Am2+ in the description.

eg this australian site, see the mother board sub catagories

http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/19/

Tye

System Name:	The ClusterF**k
Processor:	980X @ 4212Mhz 24/7
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling:	MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory:	3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24
Video Card:	Evga GTX 580
Hard Disk:	Seagate 7200.10 320GB x2 RAID0; 2 x Samsung F2 1.5TB; 1 x F1 1TB; 1 x F4 2TB
Optical Drive:	LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case:	Technofront Bench Station
Sound Card:	Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
PSU:	ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software:	Win7 Ultimate N x64

System Name:	The ShadowFold Draconis (Ordering soon)
Processor:	AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8ghz
Motherboard:	ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870
Cooling:	Stock
Memory:	Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3-1333
Video Card:	XFX ATi Radeon HD 5850 1gb
Hard Disk:	Western Digital 640gb
Optical Drive:	LG DVD Burner SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 21.5" 5ms Full HD 1920x1080P
Case:	Antec Nine-Hundred
Sound Card:	Onboard + Creative "Fatal1ty" Headset
PSU:	Antec Earthwatts 650w
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Benchmarks:	-❶-❸-❸-❼-

Mar 6, 2009, 02:01 AM	#129
RevengE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,047 (1.25/day) Thanks: 214 Thanked 212 Times in 194 Posts System Specs	Give him a break he's really new to this, he is just making sure he is getting his money worth. Get a phenom II. __________________

Processor:	FX-8350 PileDriver
Motherboard:	Asus M5A99FX Pro
Cooling:	Zalman
Memory:	Kingston Hyper X 8GB
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 660TI 3GB SC+
Hard Disk:	Wester Digital Black 1 TB
Optical Drive:	Pioneer DVD/CD burner drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Hanns G 27 Inch
Case:	Silverstone Raven RV02
Sound Card:	N/A
PSU:	Kingwin Lazer 1000W
Software:	Windows 7 64 Bit

System Name:	The ClusterF**k
Processor:	980X @ 4212Mhz 24/7
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling:	MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory:	3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24
Video Card:	Evga GTX 580
Hard Disk:	Seagate 7200.10 320GB x2 RAID0; 2 x Samsung F2 1.5TB; 1 x F1 1TB; 1 x F4 2TB
Optical Drive:	LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case:	Technofront Bench Station
Sound Card:	Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
PSU:	ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software:	Win7 Ultimate N x64

Mar 6, 2009, 02:00 AM	#127
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.41/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	Oh I thought the 750 and 550 were Seasonic..

Mar 6, 2009, 02:00 AM	#128
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Stop arguing in your comptalk and speak English please! I'm quite lost here.

Mar 6, 2009, 02:05 AM	#131
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Is it possible to have 2 cooling fans? I want my computer to be as cool as f**ing possible! And thanks for telling me what OEM stood for! Revenge, so the PII X4 BE would be the way to go huh. (I'm going to shove in the AM3 socket mobo, so anybody have good recommendations for DDR3 RAM?) Last edited by Bokteelo; Mar 6, 2009 at 02:12 AM.*

Mar 6, 2009, 02:12 AM	#132
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.41/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	Hard to find some good priced DDR3.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150 I heard that set clocks REALLY well.

Mar 6, 2009, 02:13 AM	#134
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150 Ouch, this will cost me another 25$! Thanks, I'll include this. Edit: Oh crap now Wile E is back with something for me. WHAT TO DO WHAT TO DO?? Edit2: Ouch, Wile E your memory is a lot pricier. D:

Mar 6, 2009, 02:21 AM	#135
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.41/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	I think you should stick with DDR2 honestly.. I was gonna do DDR3 as well but it just doesn't seem worth it.

Mar 6, 2009, 02:23 AM	#136
OzzmanFloyd120 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pontaic Michigan Posts: 2,150 (1.13/day) Thanks: 177 Thanked 305 Times in 270 Posts System Specs	I couldn't agree more with the people telling you to go Phenom II 940BE. Right now newegg has a customer code to get an additional $10 off. (up through the 12th of March) As for a motherboard, you'll end up paying a little extra for one that's PII ready, otherwise you might have to pick up a cheap Sempy (short for Semperon) to update the motherboard's bios. __________________ Help, I need to sell my stuff to pay bills! - TPU's ATHF Fan Club! - The Video Editors' Clubhouse

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Mar 6, 2009, 02:26 AM	#138
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.41/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	Two fans on the Xigmatek? No. You don't need two tho. And yes there are some upcoming boards that do both but like I said DDR2 is fine.

Mar 6, 2009, 02:36 AM	#140
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	I've seen some gaming computers that have like, a billion fans. (Well, 2-3-4!) Like, 2 on the side, 1 on the top, something like that right? And crap, which exactly is the AM3 board? I'll never be able to figure which is which unless told by experienced professionals, so if possible could you go back a few pages? What exactly is RAM latency? And setting clocks with RAM? -Lost-

Mar 6, 2009, 02:44 AM	#142
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	So this is what I've got: PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 Cooling - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20HDT-S1284EE CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471 MB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128377 RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148150 Wile, let's put aside incremental upgrades aside from adding an extra HD 4870. What would be the best set up for NOW.

Mar 6, 2009, 02:46 AM	#144
OzzmanFloyd120 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pontaic Michigan Posts: 2,150 (1.13/day) Thanks: 177 Thanked 305 Times in 270 Posts System Specs	Not really true, most of the current AM2+ boards are releasing bios updates to support AM3 and DDR3. I know that he doesn't know how to flash his bios, but if he's anything like anyone else who's ever joined this site he will know within a few months. __________________ Help, I need to sell my stuff to pay bills! - TPU's ATHF Fan Club! - The Video Editors' Clubhouse

Mar 6, 2009, 02:47 AM	#145
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.41/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	Lookin good man. HD 4870 1gb would be the best to get now. You can get another later when they are super cheap.

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ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.41/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	He has a 790X and DDR3 kit listed. I say go for that stuff.

System Name:	ibuiltit
Processor:	E8500 stock for now
Motherboard:	Gigabyte EP45 DS4
Cooling:	CPU- Xigmatek Red Scorpion, 1x23cm fan, 3x12cm fan
Memory:	4gb Corsair Dominator 8500
Video Card:	Asus 5850 1gb
Hard Disk:	Samsung 750gb F1, 500bg F1 for backup
Optical Drive:	Pioneer
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 226BW
Case:	Thermaltake Armour+
Sound Card:	on board
PSU:	Corsair 750 TX
Software:	xp 32 bit SP3, Win 7 64 bit

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