Which video card? - Page 2

btarunr · Mar 6, 2009, 12:37 AM

Go for a GTX 260-216. It will last for a while.

DrPepper · Mar 6, 2009, 12:43 AM

Get the 4870 at that price. Thats a deal and a half.

Aceman.au · Mar 6, 2009, 12:46 AM

The 4800 series is apparently "Future Proof" so go the 4870 1GB model is preffered

JC316 · Mar 6, 2009, 12:49 AM

I don't really care about future proofing, there is always something bigger and better coming out. 4870 seems to be the consensus view.

Aceman.au · Mar 6, 2009, 12:57 AM

Maybe wait for 4890???

Jeffredo · Mar 6, 2009, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

4870 FTW on that..

GTX260 192sp is the suck... 216 would be much better but the cost goes way up..
4850 is a great card, but you may find yourself wanting the little extra the 4870 has to offer when playing some games.

The GTX260 (192) is not "the suck". If its "the suck", so's your card. In fact, yours is "suckier".

Now that I got that out of my system...

I would go for the HD 4870 1GB. The Sapphire is $199.99 at the egg with a $10 rebate. Great card for a good price.

btarunr · Mar 6, 2009, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC316

I don't really care about future proofing, there is always something bigger and better coming out.

If so, then GTX 260-216. Faster and feature-rich.

niko084 · Mar 6, 2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffredo

The GTX260 (192) is not "the suck". If its "the suck", so's your card. In fact, yours is "suckier".

Now that I got that out of my system...

I would go for the HD 4870 1GB. The Sapphire is $199.99 at the egg with a $10 rebate. Great card for a good price.

Let me show you a little something...
http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuM...alse&limit=100

See those TOP scores on a GTX 260 192sp.. Take a look at my system specs, my 3dmark Vantage score is listed and it's listed with a quite a bit lower clock on my card then what I can do and with a lower clock on my processor then I can do with ease on my current air cooling.

The GTX260 192 is less powerful than the 4870 and my 4850 will surpass a stock 4870 pretty easily.

My point in saying it is the suck was that is sucked, price per performance... Even now it still costs more than the 4870 and performs quite a bit worse. The GTX260 216 on the other hand is a good step better, but again the cost takes a nasty jump.

wolf · Mar 6, 2009, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

Let me show you a little something...
http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuM...alse&limit=100

See those TOP scores on a GTX 260 192sp.. Take a look at my system specs, my 3dmark Vantage score is listed and it's listed with a quite a bit lower clock on my card then what I can do and with a lower clock on my processor then I can do with ease on my current air cooling.

The GTX260 192 is less powerful than the 4870 and my 4850 will surpass a stock 4870 pretty easily.

My point in saying it is the suck was that is sucked, price per performance... Even now it still costs more than the 4870 and performs quite a bit worse. The GTX260 216 on the other hand is a good step better, but again the cost takes a nasty jump.

in most cases a GTX260 c192 can be made to handily par a GTX280 or come very very close, to which a 4870 overclocked cannot match, except for the few exceptions.

Jeffredo · Mar 6, 2009, 05:31 AM

http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuM...alse&limit=100

Seems HD 4850's on air are considerable lower than GTX 260 (192). Which is to be expected, since its not as good a card.

http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuM...alse&limit=100

Seems the HD 4870s are in the same ballpark, and this doesn't even differentiate between the 512s and 1GB models.

A $179.99 (after MIR) EVGA GTX 260 (192) is not a bad buy. Its a pretty damn good one - lots of potential in that card (see the huge TPU thread about them). But as I said in my post I would opt for an HD 4870 1GB.

niko084 · Mar 6, 2009, 03:21 PM

Now that we are done with benchmarks, take a gander at application performance, NVIDIA specifically redesigned the GTX260 because it was "slower" than the 4870.

And if we wanted to talk costs...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102813
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130464
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161269

Jeffredo · Mar 6, 2009, 04:35 PM

Talk about non sequiturs...

DrPepper · Mar 6, 2009, 04:39 PM

I'd say go with the 4870 1gb because you have a crossfire board. If you don't plan on going crossfire or sli get the gtx260 or 280.

wolf · Mar 7, 2009, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

Now that we are done with benchmarks, take a gander at application performance, NVIDIA specifically redesigned the GTX260 because it was "slower" than the 4870.

And if we wanted to talk costs...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102813
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130464
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161269

not really, it wasn't so much "slower" as it wasn't "faster". they were about the same, give-take the specific benchmarks where 1 gets a lead. now that it has been redone with 216 sp's, it handily beats a 4870 in the majority of games and benchmarks.

johnspack · Mar 7, 2009, 02:23 AM

I'll amplify the suggestion to go gtx260-216. By far the best bang for the buck. I'd stay away from older gtx280 and 260 cards though.

wolf · Mar 7, 2009, 02:34 AM

+1, bang for buck is what the c216 carries in spades, and the drivers, oh lordy the drivers!

ShadowFold · Mar 7, 2009, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

and the drivers, oh lordy the drivers!

I know right! My 280 always crashed L4D, it was awesome!

DrPepper · Mar 7, 2009, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

I know right! My 280 always crashed L4D, it was awesome!

You probs had a bad card.

JC316 · Mar 9, 2009, 12:59 AM

Ok, I have it narrowed down to two cards.

I have an HD 4870, barebones, card only for $100 shipped.
Or I have a complete GTX 260 55nm for $145 shipped.

Leaning heavily on the 4870. What do you think?

Paintface · Mar 9, 2009, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC316

Ok, I have it narrowed down to two cards.

I have an HD 4870, barebones, card only for $100 shipped.
Or I have a complete GTX 260 55nm for $145 shipped.

Leaning heavily on the 4870. What do you think?

i think the price and performance should make this a no brainer....

4870 all the way , you wont regret

Polaris573 · Mar 9, 2009, 01:32 AM

Where the heck did you get a $100 4870? I just bought a $100 4850 after selling my 8800 and I thought that was a good deal.

boise49ers · Mar 9, 2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polaris573

Where the heck did you get a $100 4870? I just bought a $100 4850 after selling my 8800 and I thought that was a good deal.

I paid $300 for my 1 gigger two or three months ago.

Kursah · Mar 9, 2009, 02:30 AM

GTX260, great cards, run pretty cool overall, oc-able, easy to deal with, drivers work very well, fold like champs, overall they kick ass. The 4870's do also, either way you go will treat you well, but I did vote for the GTX260 considering both the ones I've had were kickass from the get-go and have been problem, error, overheating free, both have been very ocable and stable, with a great experience comes a high recommendation! Though a 4870 for 100 bucks is a killer deal, so is a gtx at 145 imo.

Fleck · Mar 9, 2009, 02:35 AM

I've been an nVidia fanboy since I upgraded my Radeon 9500 to a Geforce. But I think ATI has got the performance and the looks these days, as well as the savings. I vote for the 4870.

I'm gonna go with the 4850 or 4870. I haven't decided if I want to save the $20 and just overclock the 4850 to 4870 level. I don't know how much further the 4870 could overclock above the 4850. The good thing about the 4870 is they have GDDR5 instead of GDDR3, which is something else I'm considering in my purchase.

a_ump · Mar 9, 2009, 02:37 AM

well you said you can go up to 150, plus that would allow you to keep your card and use it for phyx with the GTX 55nm. i voted HD 4870 cause i didn't read the whole thread. that's what i would do or still sell your 9600GSO for some spair cash, maybe an aftermarket cooler for which ever card you do get for better oc's or just more comfortable temps.

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Mar 6, 2009, 12:37 AM	#26
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Mar 6, 2009, 12:46 AM	#28
Aceman.au Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In front of a PC screen. If not there, Kialla West, Australia Posts: 1,234 (0.69/day) Thanks: 190 Thanked 50 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	The 4800 series is apparently "Future Proof" so go the 4870 1GB model is preffered __________________ Derp?™ “mid mars? but interplanetary shipping suuuuucks” -Mussels Before you flame: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome I got no idea whats going on lol

Mar 6, 2009, 12:43 AM	#27
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Mar 6, 2009, 12:49 AM	#29
JC316 Knows what makes you tick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW/ Texas Posts: 6,047 (2.26/day) Thanks: 714 Thanked 912 Times in 696 Posts System Specs	I don't really care about future proofing, there is always something bigger and better coming out. 4870 seems to be the consensus view. __________________ Core 2 Duo Overclocking guide Athlon 64 overclocking guide “If I were to do this, it'd be my luck that the door would rip off the hinges, burst into flames, and rape my face with fiery hot death.” -El Fiendo

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Mar 6, 2009, 12:57 AM	#30
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Mar 6, 2009, 05:31 AM	#35
Jeffredo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 634 (0.27/day) Thanks: 157 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts System Specs	http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuM...alse&limit=100 Seems HD 4850's on air are considerable lower than GTX 260 (192). Which is to be expected, since its not as good a card. http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuM...alse&limit=100 Seems the HD 4870s are in the same ballpark, and this doesn't even differentiate between the 512s and 1GB models. A $179.99 (after MIR) EVGA GTX 260 (192) is not a bad buy. Its a pretty damn good one - lots of potential in that card (see the huge TPU thread about them). But as I said in my post I would opt for an HD 4870 1GB.

Mar 6, 2009, 03:21 PM	#36
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Mar 6, 2009, 04:35 PM	#37
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Mar 6, 2009, 04:39 PM	#38
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Mar 7, 2009, 02:23 AM	#40
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Mar 7, 2009, 02:34 AM	#41
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Mar 9, 2009, 12:59 AM	#44
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Mar 9, 2009, 01:32 AM	#46
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Mar 9, 2009, 02:30 AM	#48
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Mar 9, 2009, 02:35 AM	#49
Fleck Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 292 (0.19/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 43 Times in 26 Posts System Specs	I've been an nVidia fanboy since I upgraded my Radeon 9500 to a Geforce. But I think ATI has got the performance and the looks these days, as well as the savings. I vote for the 4870. I'm gonna go with the 4850 or 4870. I haven't decided if I want to save the $20 and just overclock the 4850 to 4870 level. I don't know how much further the 4870 could overclock above the 4850. The good thing about the 4870 is they have GDDR5 instead of GDDR3, which is something else I'm considering in my purchase.

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Mar 9, 2009, 02:37 AM	#50
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	well you said you can go up to 150, plus that would allow you to keep your card and use it for phyx with the GTX 55nm. i voted HD 4870 cause i didn't read the whole thread. that's what i would do or still sell your 9600GSO for some spair cash, maybe an aftermarket cooler for which ever card you do get for better oc's or just more comfortable temps. __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

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