Dual Monitor

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 08:33 AM

I have an integrated 6150 LE and a dedicated 4830. I was wondering how I could run dual monitors using both cards? I tried plugging a second monitor in the 6150 VGA slot and my monitor says checking cable > no signal.

Oh and does it matter which side my monitor is on? I don't want to drag my mouse the one way and have it going the opposite side or something. Hard to explain but I'm sure you get the point.

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 08:37 AM

Plug the monitors into the 4830 (both of them), then enable the second monitor in Windows Display Options and position it where ever you want (physically, and in Display Options - you can drag the monitor around to position it.)

Problem solved

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 08:39 AM

Using both cards is not possible with the hardware you have. I know the motherboard you have as i used one once, as soon as a PCI-E card is installed the onboard video disables.

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 08:40 AM

Crap. The 4830 only has one VGA connector. The other would be a DVI, and I don't have a DVI adapter or monitor right now.

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bokteelo

Crap. The 4830 only has one VGA connector. The other would be a DVI, and I don't have a DVI adapter or monitor right now.

DVI to VGA adaptors are as cheap as chips. if you werent so far away i'd send you one... i've got a drawer full of em.

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

DVI to VGA adaptors are as cheap as chips. if you werent so far away i'd send you one... i've got a drawer full of em.

Ahaha. I just found this on Amazon. Does it seem like a good buy? I honestly don't see anything wrong with it. I won't need any cables would I? I'll just use the VGA cable from my old monitor.

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 08:47 AM

yeah thats the one. it makes DVI ports VGA, end story.

I'm surprised the card didnt come with it.

alexp999 · Apr 12, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

yeah thats the one. it makes DVI ports VGA, end story.

I'm surprised the card didnt come with it.

You only get DVI to VGA adaptors with cards that have no VGA output, cus their card has one VGA and one DVI, an adaptor was not needed

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alexp999

You only get DVI to VGA adaptors with cards that have no VGA output, cus their card has one VGA and one DVI, an adaptor was not needed

most of my cards i got (radeon 1650s, and so on) had one of each, and included the adaptor anyway.

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 08:59 AM

Mussels, how much would a second monitor strain my system, specifically the GPU, if I have to use one GPU for 2 monitors?

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bokteelo

Mussels, how much would a second monitor strain my system, specifically the GPU, if I have to use one GPU for 2 monitors?

in 2D? no change. as for 3D it would add a lot of stress, but no games really support it.

alexp999 · Apr 12, 2009, 09:04 AM

You can run two games at once, but I doubt the card would handle it, unless it was from a few years back.

Also dont forget, if running full screen on one monitor and you click on something on the other, you will get a CTD on the fullscreen app.

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

in 2D? no change. as for 3D it would add a lot of stress, but no games really support it.

Awesome. Thanks! I just want to be able to watch videos while I'm gaming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexp999

You can run two games at once, but I doubt the card would handle it, unless it was from a few years back.

Also dont forget, if running full screen on one monitor and you click on something on the other, you will get a CTD on the fullscreen app.

What's CTD?

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by alexp999

Also dont forget, if running full screen on one monitor and you click on something on the other, you will get a CTD on the fullscreen app.

I've been using Dual Monitors for years, and except for one game (an old one) which didn't like being minimized (IE it got stuck minimized) I've never ever seen that.

Using a second monitor loses you no noticeable performance (unless you go stretching the game across both screens) in games.

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Originally Posted by Bokteelo

What's CTD?

Crash to Desktop.

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 09:10 AM

watching a movie while gaming will have a few minor problems. Some games dont lock the mouse cursor, so its going to scroll over to the other window instead of turning you left, etc.

Also, if you click on the other application on the second window it will either crash or minimise your game. Windows really isnt optimised for dual screen PC's.

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

watching a movie while gaming will have a few minor problems. Some games dont lock the mouse cursor, so its going to scroll over to the other window instead of turning you left, etc.

Also, if you click on the other application on the second window it will either crash or minimise your game. Windows really isnt optimised for dual screen PC's.

What if both monitors are at the desktop?

I can use one mouse for both desktops right? And the cursor won't be visible on both monitors at the same time, I'd have to drag them over to one another right?

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bokteelo

What if both monitors are at the desktop?

I can use one mouse for both desktops right? And the cursor won't be visible on both monitors at the same time, I'd have to drag them over to one another right?

Yes, you're just extending the desktop so it uses 2 monitors. So it's one desktop, across 2 monitors. One mouse cursor, one taskbar (by default, grab Ultramon for a second).

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009, 09:17 AM

yeah dark got it.

2 monitors works great in 2D (windows desktop) it only gets complicated when fullscreen applications are involved.

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

yeah dark got it.

2 monitors works great in 2D (windows desktop) it only gets complicated when fullscreen applications are involved.

Now I disagree, as I said before, been using them for years, except for one game which hates being minimized (it gets stuck minimized) I've never had a problem using fullscreen apps and then accessing stuff on the second screen (it minimizes the game, you do what you need to on the 2nd monitor, then open the game again).

I even watch films when playing L4D. They both run fine, no crashes or instability.

It's brilliant for World of Warcraft or Guild Wars (but you run those in a window).

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 09:20 AM

Ultramon? Let me Google that.

Edit: Looks like a useful software. I'll be sure to download it and try it when my adapter comes.

Can I have different application shortcuts on each desktop? For example, Chrome on #1 and IE7 on #2?

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 09:30 AM

Ultramon is amazing mate. I couldn't use dual monitors without out it.

The main feature is the second taskbar, without that you only have the main taskbar on the first monitor, and it gets confusing.

You can put whatever you want wherever mate. It just makes it a larger desktop.

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 09:31 AM

Thanks for all the help guys! I'll probably bump this topic if I have problems later on when my adapter arrives.

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 09:33 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/090412/mydesktop.jpg

That's my desktop currently mate. I'm sure you can see where the first one ends and the second begins. I have icons on both sides.

(Sorry for the large picture)

Bokteelo · Apr 12, 2009, 09:36 AM

Oh that's just awesome. I'm pretty excited! Too bad I had to steal my sister's monitor. She's coming back in a month for like 4 months for summer vacation. DAMN IT I'll have to return it then! T_T

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bokteelo

Oh that's just awesome. I'm pretty excited! Too bad I had to steal my sister's monitor. She's coming back in a month for like 4 months for summer vacation. DAMN IT I'll have to return it then! T_T

Hahah, I'm using my old 17" monitor. Makes a huge difference, been using dual monitors for so long I just can't go back to a single monitor.

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Apr 12, 2009, 08:47 AM	#7
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Apr 12, 2009, 08:33 AM	#1
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Dual Monitor I have an integrated 6150 LE and a dedicated 4830. I was wondering how I could run dual monitors using both cards? I tried plugging a second monitor in the 6150 VGA slot and my monitor says checking cable > no signal. Oh and does it matter which side my monitor is on? I don't want to drag my mouse the one way and have it going the opposite side or something. Hard to explain but I'm sure you get the point.

Apr 12, 2009, 08:37 AM	#2
Darknova Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, United Kingdom Posts: 4,342 (1.80/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 551 Times in 514 Posts System Specs	Plug the monitors into the 4830 (both of them), then enable the second monitor in Windows Display Options and position it where ever you want (physically, and in Display Options - you can drag the monitor around to position it.) Problem solved

Apr 12, 2009, 08:40 AM	#4
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Crap. The 4830 only has one VGA connector. The other would be a DVI, and I don't have a DVI adapter or monitor right now.

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Apr 12, 2009, 08:59 AM	#10
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Mussels, how much would a second monitor strain my system, specifically the GPU, if I have to use one GPU for 2 monitors?

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Mussels Doctor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 34,594 (10.88/day) Thanks: 3,708 Thanked 8,714 Times in 6,407 Posts System Specs	watching a movie while gaming will have a few minor problems. Some games dont lock the mouse cursor, so its going to scroll over to the other window instead of turning you left, etc. Also, if you click on the other application on the second window it will either crash or minimise your game. Windows really isnt optimised for dual screen PC's. __________________ Edumacational thread about PC Audio My external HDD's.5x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 8 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information How to get hardware accelerated H264 playback (DXVA) Netbook Owners United!

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Mussels Doctor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 34,594 (10.88/day) Thanks: 3,708 Thanked 8,714 Times in 6,407 Posts System Specs	yeah dark got it. 2 monitors works great in 2D (windows desktop) it only gets complicated when fullscreen applications are involved. __________________ Edumacational thread about PC Audio My external HDD's.5x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 8 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information How to get hardware accelerated H264 playback (DXVA) Netbook Owners United!

Apr 12, 2009, 09:20 AM	#20
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Ultramon? Let me Google that. Edit: Looks like a useful software. I'll be sure to download it and try it when my adapter comes. Can I have different application shortcuts on each desktop? For example, Chrome on #1 and IE7 on #2?

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Darknova Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, United Kingdom Posts: 4,342 (1.80/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 551 Times in 514 Posts System Specs	Ultramon is amazing mate. I couldn't use dual monitors without out it. The main feature is the second taskbar, without that you only have the main taskbar on the first monitor, and it gets confusing. You can put whatever you want wherever mate. It just makes it a larger desktop.

Apr 12, 2009, 09:31 AM	#22
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Thanks for all the help guys! I'll probably bump this topic if I have problems later on when my adapter arrives.

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Darknova Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, United Kingdom Posts: 4,342 (1.80/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 551 Times in 514 Posts System Specs	http://img.techpowerup.org/090412/mydesktop.jpg That's my desktop currently mate. I'm sure you can see where the first one ends and the second begins. I have icons on both sides. (Sorry for the large picture)

Apr 12, 2009, 09:36 AM	#24
Bokteelo Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 422 (0.27/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Oh that's just awesome. I'm pretty excited! Too bad I had to steal my sister's monitor. She's coming back in a month for like 4 months for summer vacation. DAMN IT I'll have to return it then! T_T

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