Are you sure you want a dual core Phenom II?

kenkickr · Apr 29, 2009, 05:42 PM

Right now this a rumor but found this over @ Hexus.net. Again, supposedly Asrock found that we'll be able to unlock the extra cores but what really caught my attention is the dual core and newer X3's may have the L3 cache fully disabled. Read here, http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18224.

1Kurgan1 · Apr 29, 2009, 07:14 PM

Notice that that is listed as a "e" processor, thats is going to be something people put to use in their HTPC's. I highly doubt that all the procs would come like that, since the current Tri-Cores have all the L3 everyone would most likely stick with them as they clock really well anyways. I got mine at 3.8ghz 24/7 stable finally.

kenkickr · Apr 29, 2009, 07:16 PM

I did see that. Just thought TPU'ers would like some info even though its coming off a rumor mill.

1Kurgan1 · Apr 29, 2009, 07:27 PM

Yeah, not calling you out, just pointing that out. If they drop the price on them for cutting out the L3 thats going to be damned tempting for when I put together an HTPC.

KieranD · Apr 29, 2009, 11:24 PM

amd athlons are going to be quads and duals without the l3 cache

they will most likely have like a bit more cache on the l1 and l2 but will be cheaper and made for offices and htpcs ect pre builts the oem sector

even then id rather just see some cheap x4s phenom 2 that would be good for those type of rigs

HeadlessChicken · Apr 30, 2009, 01:28 AM

i would take a native dualcore version, even if it has less/little/no l3 cache, the lack of said cache should mean they overclock alot better

Apr 29, 2009, 05:42 PM	#1
kenkickr Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 4,490 (2.25/day) Thanks: 1,024 Thanked 1,328 Times in 1,094 Posts System Specs	Are you sure you want a dual core Phenom II? Right now this a rumor but found this over @ Hexus.net. Again, supposedly Asrock found that we'll be able to unlock the extra cores but what really caught my attention is the dual core and newer X3's may have the L3 cache fully disabled. Read here, http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18224.

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Apr 29, 2009, 07:14 PM	#2
1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 6,718 (4.13/day) Thanks: 3,098 Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,559 Posts System Specs	Notice that that is listed as a "e" processor, thats is going to be something people put to use in their HTPC's. I highly doubt that all the procs would come like that, since the current Tri-Cores have all the L3 everyone would most likely stick with them as they clock really well anyways. I got mine at 3.8ghz 24/7 stable finally. __________________ Youtube - The WarZ Myths + Gameplay, BF3 Weapon Reviews and more Dual Loop HAF 922 Build \| Dxtory and x264 Codec Guide “Daniel Craig is my Wookiee bitch now!” -Harrison Ford

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Apr 29, 2009, 07:16 PM	#3
kenkickr Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 4,490 (2.25/day) Thanks: 1,024 Thanked 1,328 Times in 1,094 Posts System Specs	I did see that. Just thought TPU'ers would like some info even though its coming off a rumor mill.

Apr 29, 2009, 07:27 PM	#4
1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 6,718 (4.13/day) Thanks: 3,098 Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,559 Posts System Specs	Yeah, not calling you out, just pointing that out. If they drop the price on them for cutting out the L3 thats going to be damned tempting for when I put together an HTPC. __________________ Youtube - The WarZ Myths + Gameplay, BF3 Weapon Reviews and more Dual Loop HAF 922 Build \| Dxtory and x264 Codec Guide “Daniel Craig is my Wookiee bitch now!” -Harrison Ford

Apr 29, 2009, 11:24 PM	#5
KieranD Eligible for custom title Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 5,460 (2.59/day) Thanks: 1,640 Thanked 821 Times in 712 Posts System Specs	amd athlons are going to be quads and duals without the l3 cache they will most likely have like a bit more cache on the l1 and l2 but will be cheaper and made for offices and htpcs ect pre builts the oem sector even then id rather just see some cheap x4s phenom 2 that would be good for those type of rigs __________________ http://myinstants.com/instant/transformer/

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Apr 30, 2009, 01:28 AM	#6
HeadlessChicken Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62 (0.04/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	i would take a native dualcore version, even if it has less/little/no l3 cache, the lack of said cache should mean they overclock alot better

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