New video card Vs. New ram

bikr692002 · Feb 24, 2006, 11:47 PM

I'm thinking about buying a new video card, but I remembered that my ram is bottlenecking my system (cranked my core up to 1.6volts its a prescott O.O yes i know dumb) and i couldnt hit above 4.1 and even that wasnt stable... but im running a x700pro with some resistors & shit fallen off the core. SO I odnt know what to do. Any suggestions?

trog100 · Feb 25, 2006, 12:49 AM

yes return to sanity and equip your system with a grfx card.. he he

trog

Clocked · Feb 25, 2006, 12:50 AM

i hear a X1900XTX knocking at ur door!!!

bikr692002 · Feb 25, 2006, 12:51 AM

but i cant get my fsb that high
Like I want to oc more tho

Feb 25, 2006, 02:15 AM

depends on how much u game dude.. game a lot, get the gfx card, don't game all that much, ram

Steven B · Feb 25, 2006, 03:48 AM

get new ram man

FLY3R · Feb 25, 2006, 05:56 AM

I would get some ram and really overclock the crap out of it!!! Then through some good air cooling on that X700 and overclock it.. That should hold you out long enough and later on get a decent vid card.

OOTay · Feb 25, 2006, 08:19 AM

M3h get both, just say the hell with eating this month and go with a new vid card and some cheap ol ram from newegg.

trog100 · Feb 25, 2006, 02:01 PM

i am a bit puzzled here.. exactly what do u guys do with a powerfull system when it dosnt have a grfx card.. well a real one anyways.. ????

surely running none grfx card based benchmarks cant be the sole reason u have a PC.. or can it.. he he he

clue me in.. exactly what am i missing..???

trog

Dippyskoodlez · Feb 25, 2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trog100

i am a bit puzzled here.. exactly what do u guys do with a powerfull system when it dosnt have a grfx card.. well a real one anyways.. ????

surely running none grfx card based benchmarks cant be the sole reason u have a PC.. or can it.. he he he

clue me in.. exactly what am i missing..???

trog

People like me use a powerful system for video encoding, photoshop, the like... instead of games all the time like most people here

bikr692002 · Feb 26, 2006, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLY3R

I would get some ram and really overclock the crap out of it!!! Then through some good air cooling on that X700 and overclock it.. That should hold you out long enough and later on get a decent vid card.

My x700pro is half-past dead, resistors & shit fell off the main core, because of q-tips catching on and waterblocks hitting it, and now, at stock clocks, atitool, when running stock clocks, the whole scan thing is yellow.

zekrahminator · Feb 26, 2006, 02:22 AM

man, you dont NEED an overclock...just get an Arctic Freezer 7 and an X850XT or something like it.

Thermopylae_480 · Feb 26, 2006, 02:29 AM

If your video card is falling apart, obviously you should forget ram for the time being. What good can ram do when you can't even display a picture? If crap is falling off, it is not long for this world.

yogurt_21 · Feb 26, 2006, 04:41 AM

trash the x700 as it' sounds quite dead and go for an x850xt or better (or a gto2 with red pcb modded to x850xt) that would be a much more powerful solution at a decent price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161164
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814122228
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102505
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102646
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102610

afew cards to consider best price vs performance is definetly the x850xt for 200$, though the x1800xl has 1.4ns memory which can easily hit 1400+MHZ.

FLY3R · Feb 26, 2006, 06:22 AM

Oh well yeah... If crap is falling off the dang card then trun it into a paper wight!!

OOTay · Feb 26, 2006, 07:45 AM

the saphire x850xt looks good for the price, and just forget about nvid lol... and your card Will die soon enough so you might aswell get a new card of your choice. And i love how poeple mostly use newegg now, got to love the egg.

zekrahminator · Feb 26, 2006, 04:15 PM

lol yeah, I agree...go with the X850XT or better. if you'll look at my specs, I have the same card you're talking about

...6K+ 3Dmark05.

bikr692002 · Feb 26, 2006, 05:03 PM

is it the same lengthwise? BEcause the way I have my watercooling cut... well just look at my thread in the project logs, you'll get what im saying...

Whats the x1800xl's average fps in bf2? Why I am asking this is because the default core is 500Mhz, I was able to get my x700pro up to that!!!

D-rock · Mar 2, 2006, 06:32 PM

With the Sapphire X850XT now at the same price as the X800GTO2, there isnt much need to buy the GTO2 now, just get the real X850XT.

Feb 24, 2006, 11:47 PM	#1
bikr692002 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 906 (0.33/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	New video card Vs. New ram I'm thinking about buying a new video card, but I remembered that my ram is bottlenecking my system (cranked my core up to 1.6volts its a prescott O.O yes i know dumb) and i couldnt hit above 4.1 and even that wasnt stable... but im running a x700pro with some resistors & shit fallen off the core. SO I odnt know what to do. Any suggestions?

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Feb 25, 2006, 12:49 AM	#2
trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.61/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	yes return to sanity and equip your system with a grfx card.. he he trog

Feb 25, 2006, 12:50 AM	#3
Clocked Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 243 (0.09/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	i hear a X1900XTX knocking at ur door!!!

Feb 25, 2006, 12:51 AM	#4
bikr692002 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 906 (0.33/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	but i cant get my fsb that high Like I want to oc more tho

Feb 25, 2006, 02:15 AM	#5
nightelf84 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	depends on how much u game dude.. game a lot, get the gfx card, don't game all that much, ram

Feb 25, 2006, 03:48 AM	#6
Steven B Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 575 (0.20/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 50 Times in 33 Posts	get new ram man

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Feb 25, 2006, 05:56 AM	#7
FLY3R Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 354 (0.13/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 41 Times in 41 Posts System Specs	I would get some ram and really overclock the crap out of it!!! Then through some good air cooling on that X700 and overclock it.. That should hold you out long enough and later on get a decent vid card.

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Feb 25, 2006, 08:19 AM	#8
OOTay Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 399 (0.15/day) Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	M3h get both, just say the hell with eating this month and go with a new vid card and some cheap ol ram from newegg.

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Feb 25, 2006, 02:01 PM	#9
trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.61/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	i am a bit puzzled here.. exactly what do u guys do with a powerfull system when it dosnt have a grfx card.. well a real one anyways.. ???? surely running none grfx card based benchmarks cant be the sole reason u have a PC.. or can it.. he he he clue me in.. exactly what am i missing..??? trog

Feb 26, 2006, 02:22 AM	#12
zekrahminator McLovin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My house. Posts: 6,280 (2.33/day) Thanks: 105 Thanked 340 Times in 246 Posts System Specs	man, you dont NEED an overclock...just get an Arctic Freezer 7 and an X850XT or something like it.

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Feb 26, 2006, 04:41 AM	#14
yogurt_21 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,058 (1.52/day) Thanks: 2,249 Thanked 542 Times in 443 Posts System Specs	trash the x700 as it' sounds quite dead and go for an x850xt or better (or a gto2 with red pcb modded to x850xt) that would be a much more powerful solution at a decent price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161164 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814122228 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102505 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102646 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102610 afew cards to consider best price vs performance is definetly the x850xt for 200$, though the x1800xl has 1.4ns memory which can easily hit 1400+MHZ.

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Feb 26, 2006, 06:22 AM	#15
FLY3R Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 354 (0.13/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 41 Times in 41 Posts System Specs	Oh well yeah... If crap is falling off the dang card then trun it into a paper wight!!

Feb 26, 2006, 07:45 AM	#16
OOTay Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 399 (0.15/day) Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	the saphire x850xt looks good for the price, and just forget about nvid lol... and your card Will die soon enough so you might aswell get a new card of your choice. And i love how poeple mostly use newegg now, got to love the egg.

Feb 26, 2006, 04:15 PM	#17
zekrahminator McLovin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My house. Posts: 6,280 (2.33/day) Thanks: 105 Thanked 340 Times in 246 Posts System Specs	lol yeah, I agree...go with the X850XT or better. if you'll look at my specs, I have the same card you're talking about ...6K+ 3Dmark05.

Feb 26, 2006, 05:03 PM	#18
bikr692002 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 906 (0.33/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	is it the same lengthwise? BEcause the way I have my watercooling cut... well just look at my thread in the project logs, you'll get what im saying... Whats the x1800xl's average fps in bf2? Why I am asking this is because the default core is 500Mhz, I was able to get my x700pro up to that!!! Last edited by bikr692002; Feb 26, 2006 at 05:08 PM.

Mar 2, 2006, 06:32 PM	#19
D-rock Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 49 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	With the Sapphire X850XT now at the same price as the X800GTO2, there isnt much need to buy the GTO2 now, just get the real X850XT.

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