ive learnt something about games with cry in

[ste2425]

Games with cry in will look freaking amazing and be great games, but they will bring any rig to its knees take cryostasis for example great game great storyline but shit performance same goes for crysis series. I think they use the same engine so sumink but i dnt no much about that have they done any updates for cryostasis yet? i crnt find out?

[BrooksyX]

No offense but it would help if you had a little higher end cpu. You play at a fairly low resolution so the game is going to be very cpu dependent. You are using a lower end cpu and not overclocking it at all. If you oced that cpu I bet you would get much better results.

[ste2425]

since when has 1680x1050 been a low ress? an my cpu is oc at 2.5, i am not really commenting on my rig i no weather the game is greatly encoded or not it will still get low performance on my rig but the fact im hearning people complaining with much better rigs then mine brought me to this conclusion

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

. You play at a fairly low resolution so the game is going to be very cpu dependent.

i cant think of how to say it, but you're making a mistaken assumption there. I dont even know how to word it, but that sentence is screaming "wrong"

[ShadowFold]

The e2000's suck, specially at stock speeds. I had one and it was a crappy clocker and didn't even come close to my Windsors. At the time I bought it I wasn't really that much into computer stuff yet and everyone was like Intel Intel Intel! Yea, E6000+ maybe but the E2000 are crap.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

The e2000's suck, specially at stock speeds. I had one and it was a crappy clocker and didn't even come close to my Windsors.

yeah but what he said about the CPU's makes no sense.

Oh if you play at a low res, you need a faster cpu.
so that implies you need a faster CPU at low resolutions, than you do at high res? huh?

[ShadowFold]

You do need a good CPU for lower reses. I had that E2200 at 1024x768 and my Windsor 4200's and 6000 got almost twice the frames. Then I got an e7200 and it doubled my fps from the 6000+ at 4ghz.

[Mussels]

if his CPU is too slow to run at lower res, then youre saying its inadequate at the higher resolution as well. THATS the contradiction in the statement.

"you're gaming at a lower res, you need a faster CPU
If that CPU is too slow for low res, then its far too slow for higher resolutions as well, making the statement redundantly mean "your CPU is just too slow"

[haffey]

Originally Posted by Mussels

if his CPU is too slow to run at lower res, then youre saying its inadequate at the higher resolution as well. THATS the contradiction in the statement.

"you're gaming at a lower res, you need a faster CPU
If that CPU is too slow for low res, then its far too slow for higher resolutions as well, making the statement redundantly mean "your CPU is just too slow"

he's saying that any game will be more dependent on the CPU rather than the GPU at a lower res. so let's just pretend these numbers are true:

800x600 - 60% CPU, 40%GPU
1680x1050 - 30% CPU, 40% GPU

Do you know what I'm saying?

[AsRock]

Originally Posted by haffey

he's saying that any game will be more dependent on the CPU rather than the GPU at a lower res. so let's just pretend these numbers are true:

800x600 - 60% CPU, 40%GPU
1680x1050 - 30% CPU, 40% GPU

Do you know what I'm saying?

If it was like that everyone be running higher res and not lower ones.

800x600 - 30% CPU, 40%GPU
1680x1050 - 70% CPU, 50% GPU

Would be more accurate. If a game depends on CPU more don't change the fact that higher res with take more CPU power.

[Dice]

Originally Posted by AsRock

1680x1050 - 70% CPU, 50% GPU

= 120% or am i missing somethin?

[CDdude55]

FarCry 2 isn't that demanding it runs great on medium on my rig.

[newtekie1]

I get what Mussels is saying. Think of it like this:

Lets say the CPU is only capable of running the game at 60FPS, this is regardless of resolution because resolution does not affect CPU load.

So if his video card is only capable of 30FPS@1680x1050, and his CPU is capable of 60FPS, the game will run at 30FPS. If the card is capable of 100FPS@1024x768, and his CPU is only capable of 60FPS, the game will run at 60FPS.

But what Mussels is saying is that you don't need a high end CPU for lower resolutions, the CPU is going to give the same performance at a higher resolution as the lower resolution, the only difference is when will the CPU become a limitting factor and how much of a limitting factor will it be. In most modern First Person Shooters, the CPU will not be a limitting factor, and if it is it is still capable of more than high enough FPS.

Now, as for the original topic. I think what people tend to bitch about is that their rigs can't run the game on Max settings without it crawling. But what they don't tend to realize, or they do realize and don't care, is that the game will run just fine one notch down from Max with little negative visual impact on the game. In Crysis for example, the Max settings(Very High) was meant to be brutal on machines and give all the eye candy possible, however High(one step down from Max) was designed to be very playable on a wide range of hardware but only gets rid of some of the eye candy that is largely unnoticable.

[r9]

Lazy performance on Cryostasis has nothing to do with his CPU. I have lazy performance on it with E5200 at 4.2GHz and ATi 4850 @ 730 1075. And the game is looking great but not that great.
Compare riddick assault on dark athena to this one I get 60 fps on riddick. It is simply bad optimized game that is all.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by r9

Lazy performance on Cryostasis has nothing to do with his CPU. I have lazy performance on it with E5200 at 4.2GHz and ATi 4850 @ 730 1075. And the game is looking great but not that great.
Compare riddick assault on dark athena to this one I get 60 fps on riddick. It is simply bad optimized game that is all.

How is Riddick?

[LifeOnMars]

Devil May CRY performs great, the OP's thread title is shockingly inaccurate........j/k And this whole CPU dependancy at lower res is a craptastic statement, it's all about scaling and at higher resolutions CPU's will fall closer on FPS with the same graphics card (however, with the current transition of processors even this is false with some games) Just looking at how an athlon performs at high res compared with the new Phenom II chips and on some games with the same graphics card you are looking at big framerate differences.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Dice

= 120% or am i missing somethin?

They dont equal 100% combined. 70% of 100% of the CPU 40% of the 100% on the GPU

[Dice]

I want at least 110% to be done on the gpu.

[crtecha]

Complaining about Crysis is like still bitching about Vista. I was playing crysis at 1024x768 on low for the first half on my old rig. My system couldn't do any better but the game was still fun and as I've upgraded it looks better every time I play. I would rather have a game that I can play on low settings than to not be able to play it.

[ste2425]

Lazy performance on Cryostasis has nothing to do with his CPU. I have lazy performance on it with E5200 at 4.2GHz and ATi 4850 @ 730 1075. And the game is looking great but not that great.
Compare riddick assault on dark athena to this one I get 60 fps on riddick. It is simply bad optimized game that is all.

my rig probably doesn't help the shit performance but seeing posts like this is what made come to the conclusion i am not the only person suffering from shit performance in cryostasis. Even people with much better rigs. Funnily enough at this res i can max out crysis an get a solid 25-30 fps only going under when huge an i mean massive firefights are going on an that like by only 4-5 fps

[newtekie1]

Cryostasis has a lot of "elemental" effects that really take a strain on the CPU to calculate.

Modern games are really starting to show the benefits of a quad-core processor, mainly due to physics detail increasing dramatically. The thinking that a high clocked dual-core processor should be better than a lower clocked quad-core is proving to be wrong with modern games. The extra computing power that the quad gives simply can no longer be made up by increasing the clocks on a dual core.

[r9]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

How is Riddick?

If you like the original you are going to like this one also.

[ste2425]

hmmm thats true but untill i crnt get acceptable frames in more then half my collection ill stick my my current cpu

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by r9

If you like the original you are going to like this one also.

Hows the eye candy?

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Hows the eye candy?

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46...mparison-Movie

This should give you an idea.