What's different from normal keyboard to gaming keyboard?

[Kenshai]

Originally Posted by trickson

I don't know this thread is so far off base so off topic and all about vendor bashing of logitech . If they are so very bad and of poor quality then why are they the main stream of most pc users ? I do not mean to say that there are not better key boards out there and that some will be far better than logitech in terms of material used but really how bad does it have to be to just diss them all ? And to keep it up for 4 pages ? Then tell me to shut up when I state the facts as I see them as well I have a lot of logitech stuff and have used them with out fail for over 10 years now ?
I am sure that there are way better key boards out there made of steel and hardend heat prof plastic's but how hard do you have to be on a key board that you need one built out of titanium ?

Techy wasn't bashing, he was pointing out a flaw that the keyboards have. It's more of a review than bashing. On the other note, you stated you've never used anything else, so you can't really be a judge on what is high quality or what is low quality.

[BumbleBee]

I don't think so. we are discussing gaming keyboards what makes one. Logitech is the biggest manufacturer and you know what the internet is a cesspool for sins so if you can't handle a little criticism maybe you shouldn't use it. you keep defending the G15 and your wrong and you are getting your ass handed to you by a woman no less. we get it you love your G15. am I supposed to take your word the G15 is the best keyboard in the world? I have given facts and who gives a sh*t how I present my case facts are facts i'm no editor lol

[tong]

Everyone needs to calm down jeez.

Anyways, did a quick skim of the posts and didn't see this one mentioned anywhere: Saitek Eclipse. Simplistic great key feel, and now that they fixed their paint issues, the keys don't wear off. I've owned it since the 2006ish and have never had a problem, game on it CONSTANTLY and there's been no issues, only thing i think that has changed about the keyboard is the led's have gotten dimmer, then again I only noticed it after i switched to an LCD so the extra brightness of it might of dimmed out the keyboard.

Edit: I tried the logitech keyboards out and wasn't personally thrilled with the key feel (but that's my opinion). However, in my professional opinion (slept at a motel 6 last night) Their Mice are the best (once they hit revision 2)

[trickson]

Originally Posted by BumbleBee

I don't think so. we are discussing gaming keyboards what makes one. Logitech is the biggest manufacturer and you know what the internet is a cesspool for sins so if you can't handle a little criticism maybe you shouldn't use it. you keep defending the G15 and your wrong and you are getting your ass handed to you by a woman no less we get it you love your G15.

What it seems like is you can not handle MY truth of the matter you are getting all defensive calling me out telling me I am getting my ass handed to me by a women no less .

I have stated facts and told what I think of your comments on the quality of the product just because some have had a bad experience with them doesn't make them all bad or of poor quality . You talk as if you hate the logitech's stating things like poor quality and I merely refute your accusations with my own experience and you talk down to me as if to dissmiss my thoughts because you are better than me . Well so be it . YES the logitech G15 is a very niece key board they are all nice key boards and of good quality . I am sure if one looked hard enough they would find fault in any manufactures products .

Stop slamming me for my personal experience .

[BumbleBee]

does darksaber hate a case when he marks the cons in his reviews? you bought a $80 piece of junk how do you like them apples.

[tong]

To be honest i think you should both stop it and get back on topic.

I don't think I've read the answer to the original question on this topic... maybe one of you would care to enlighten us?

Or are we wasting extra money to buy stuff that says "gaming" but in reality has no difference?
Kinda like buying knock off tools and trusting them just because it says "professional grade" on them

[erocker]

Any more back an forth arguing towards one another in this thread will result in infractions. This is your only warning. I suggest you just leave this thread alone now.

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by BumbleBee

does darksaber hate a case when he marks the cons in his reviews? you bought a $80 piece of junk how do you like them apples.

one thing i have learned is NEVER argue with an idiot! they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

[kurosagi01]

Originally Posted by tong

To be honest i think you should both stop it and get back on topic.

I don't think I've read the answer to the original question on this topic... maybe one of you would care to enlighten us?

Or are we wasting extra money to buy stuff that says "gaming" but in reality has no difference?
Kinda like buying knock off tools and trusting them just because it says "professional grade" on them

pretty much i'm asking whats the difference in a standard keyboard to a gaming keyboard?
like..logitech ultra flat keyboard(£10 standard keyboard) to a razer arctosa or logitech G11&G15?

[trickson]

Originally Posted by tong

To be honest i think you should both stop it and get back on topic.

I don't think I've read the answer to the original question on this topic... maybe one of you would care to enlighten us?

Or are we wasting extra money to buy stuff that says "gaming" but in reality has no difference?
Kinda like buying knock off tools and trusting them just because it says "professional grade" on them

No a gaming key board like the G11 and G15 have macro keys on them have a switch that allows for normal operation and gaming operation so hitting the " wrong" key wont put you in windows or mess the game play up . some are illuminated helping you see keys in dark areas . I think that a gaming key board is good for people like me that seem to hit the wrong keys at the wrong time and have found it very helpful as well .

[BumbleBee]

it's a gimmick just like other Logitech products for example the g9 specs. they list the max speed, max acceleration and usb report. the max speed of a mouse depends on the surface. max acceleration has more to do with windows than games usually in games this is already overridden and if we had a choice we would use zero acceleration in favor of more precision. max usb report can be changed to 1000hz no matter what mouse you use. macros can be programmed without Logitech drivers and with any keyboard and you can disable the windows key at will. and if your heart is set on LED's there is half a dozen guides on the internet to show you how to do it.

as Dennis Leary says "coffee doesn't need a menu! it needs a fu*kin cup!" all that matters is the switches and build quality.

[tong]

@ bumbleBee thank you for clarifying a huge chunk of that. Going to play with some settings now that you've brought that to our attention

I however am way to lazzy to go ahead and wire up LED's to a keyboard, if i calculate the amount of time it would take me to solder up smd's to a keyboard to get the same effect as what i can purchase, then i have seriously wasted money (time is money). But for those that chose to do so... more power to you.

I guess if everything bumblebee stated in his previous post is correct than the only real difference i can see between the two is the macro keys, yes you don't need a fancy keyboard to do them but it does come in handy.


My experience is: love the illumination, still look down at the keyboard to type after all these years, and when i try not to my fat fingers get it all wrong.

[tong]

@ OP

go to the store and try each keyboard out, get one that has the right key feel for you. I bought plenty of products that had great features, but when i got them..... they didn't feel right. It being your money, go try each of them out, then do research on the ones you narrowed it down to... then purchase it.

Example: The original Ideazon gaming keyboard, god that thing sucked, yeah you could change keys and go from office functionality to gaming, but i couldn't stand having to stab each key with superman force for it to recognize what i was typing. And the gaming function of it wasn't that great either for the same reason.

[kurosagi01]

Originally Posted by tong

@ OP

go to the store and try each keyboard out, get one that has the right key feel for you. I bought plenty of products that had great features, but when i got them..... they didn't feel right. It being your money, go try each of them out, then do research on the ones you narrowed it down to... then purchase it.

well i'm used to flat keypads since i own one and i like it,reason i'm using this chunky keyboard because its my back-up keyboard and the flat one broke on me.
I'm interested in the arctosa silver or black,maybe the G11 but i am looking for one that would match the black silverstone case i am using,most of my hardware is black apart from the monitor which is silver but it stands out a lot so i'm not bothered about it. And none of my stores have a G11 or a arctosa so i can't try them out. =/ its either arctosa or g11

[tong]

Seeing as i own one:

Saitek Eclipse or Eclipse II ( didn't personally need anything the Eclipse II offered).

[kurosagi01]

this the saitek eclipse II your talking about?? it looks weird to me lol.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Saite...SB-11-20-Black

[tong]

Yes that's the eclipse II, main differences are : it can do blue red or purple LED's (use a button to switch it) and the volume knob is a rotary knob instead of buttons as in the eclipse both offer varying levels of brightness on the led's or u can shut them off. My main reason for the love on the keyboard is it's simplicity and key feel.

The front wrist wrest comes off or adjusts to closer to the keyboard (definitely makes it look weird that spaced out). The eclipse II is a little larger than the regular Eclipse

[kurosagi01]

what i don't like is the design really but i guess the built quality is good?

[DrPepper]

Difference between a standard keyboard and gaming:

Gaming keyboard is all glitz up and designed to appeal to gamers using lights, fancy keys and screen's etc. Normal keyboards are just for typing maybe a few media keys etc. Pretty much all keyboards on the market even the incredibly cheap ones are well built and will last a long time.

[kurosagi01]

so is my crappy microsoft keyboard okay for gaming?? lol the buttons are really chunky to press and i can type without looking down on the keyboard,i can do this with pretty much any keyboard.

[BumbleBee]

look at this bad boy looks original and european. I want it.

[intel igent]

the only issue i have ever encountered while gaming with my micro$haft digital media pro kb is the stupid window's button! but thnx to bumblebee posting the link to the "hotkeys" thingy i can turn the damn thing off now!

this is my kb for refference http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16823109029

hasn't let me down in 4 year's! i even bought it @ futuresh1t

[Hayder_Master]

the game keyboard will be better quality , nice design , expensive
you can check razor keyboards and you can see extreme gaming keyboard

[RadeonX2]

You can fancy up your El cheapo keyboard by painting it. I think the name of the canned spray that you should use is Acrylic epoxy but I'm not sure about it.

here's what I've found by googling
some nice paint mod



Now I wanna paint mod my keyboard

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by BumbleBee

look at this bad boy looks original and european. I want it.

COOL! IIRC micro$haft also has something similar but not as "edgy" in it's design and is "fluffed" up for us NA resident's i would assume that a kb that style would reduce fatigue due to the ergonomic's? which would inturn lead to better "gameability" i would imagine

now you guy's got me wanting another kb!

for plastic paint use either krylon branded plastic paint or if you are serious about the durability go to a hobby store and get some Tamiya or Pactra plastic paint