Is this normal?

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 07:34 PM

My system runs considerably warmer when in the BIOS and DOS then when it is in Windows. It seems sort of weird and Ive never understood why. Also note that I do not use programs to control my fan speeds so that is not the reason.

trickson · Jun 26, 2009, 07:37 PM

Well what is warm ? Need more info . It shouldn't run any warmer than when in windows if you see a 10* difference then some thing is going on .

AsRock · Jun 26, 2009, 07:43 PM

Chances are it's just the reading being more accurate in in the bios. Some times it's how it is.

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 07:48 PM

Well my processor, northbridge , southbridge and video card are all warmer. And I dont mean the bios reading I mean to touch. :S

trickson · Jun 26, 2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredudu

Well my processor, northbridge , southbridge and video card are all warmer. And I dont mean the bios reading I mean to touch. :S

Then you need to install some fans my friend .

Mussels · Jun 26, 2009, 07:50 PM

idle states (C1 etc) do not work in the bios. so effectively everything is running at 100%, but doing nothing (which is why the temps are high, but not maxed out)

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 07:50 PM

I dont think its that , everything runs fine in windows. Here is my setup

the cooling is sufficient.

Mussels · Jun 26, 2009, 07:51 PM

you missed my post, with your shiny pictures

look up

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

you missed my post, with your shiny pictures

look up

Oh sorry

so that even explains why the video card probably acts as it does as well, as it probably cannot revert to the lower voltage and 2d clocks.

trickson · Jun 26, 2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

idle states (C1 etc) do not work in the bios. so effectively everything is running at 100%, but doing nothing (which is why the temps are high, but not maxed out)

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by jaredudu

Oh sorry

so that even explains why the video card probably acts as it does as well, as it probably cannot revert to the lower voltage and 2d clocks.

Yes and adding some fan's that blow onto the mobo and other stuff might help . I hate them small cases .

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 07:55 PM

Its a mid tower case. I didn't feel like buying a new one so I tried to save money by painting it black. But I could put a 120mm fan on the side panel

Mussels · Jun 26, 2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredudu

Oh sorry

so that even explains why the video card probably acts as it does as well, as it probably cannot revert to the lower voltage and 2d clocks.

most of that stuff is software driven, so if theres no OS, theres no idle.

trickson · Jun 26, 2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredudu

Its a mid tower case. I didn't feel like buying a new one so I tried to save money by painting it black. But I could put a 120mm fan on the side panel

That could help some .

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 08:02 PM

Alright thanks, I have a modular psu and someone told me it is safe to plug in fans while its powered on but Im not sure. Any insight?

Mussels · Jun 26, 2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredudu

Alright thanks, I have a modular psu and someone told me it is safe to plug in fans while its powered on but Im not sure. Any insight?

yeah its safe for the PSU. maybe not for your fingers.

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

yeah its safe for the PSU. maybe not for your fingers.

I'll try not to get electrocuted

BTW i hate having to figure out which pins to use when converting 4 pin fans to 2/3

Mussels · Jun 26, 2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredudu

I'll try not to get electrocuted

BTW i hate having to figure out which pins to use when converting 4 pin fans to 2/3

its more about your fingers getting in the fan blades. 12V wont do crap, unless you stick it on your tongue.

jaredudu · Jun 26, 2009, 08:07 PM

It would probably be easier to take a 9v battery to figure out which pins to use. It would atleast spin a bit

EDIT well i think i found the fan im going to use. its an old one but even off a 9v its a jet engine

Jun 26, 2009, 07:34 PM	#1
jaredudu Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 230 (0.15/day) Thanks: 22 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	Is this normal? My system runs considerably warmer when in the BIOS and DOS then when it is in Windows. It seems sort of weird and Ive never understood why. Also note that I do not use programs to control my fan speeds so that is not the reason.

Processor:	Intel 2500k @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard:	ASrock P67 Pro
Cooling:	CM 212+
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Video Card:	GTX 570
Hard Disk:	Crucial M4 64gb, Caviar Black 640gb
CRT/LCD Model:	SyncMaster 2443BWX
Case:	CM 690
Sound Card:	Onkyo Wavio SE-200PCI LTD
PSU:	Corsair 650w TXseries
Software:	Windows 7 Pro

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Video Card:	GTX 570
Hard Disk:	Crucial M4 64gb, Caviar Black 640gb
CRT/LCD Model:	SyncMaster 2443BWX
Case:	CM 690
Sound Card:	Onkyo Wavio SE-200PCI LTD
PSU:	Corsair 650w TXseries
Software:	Windows 7 Pro

Jun 26, 2009, 07:50 PM	#6
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trickson OH, I have such a headache Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 6,105 (1.97/day) Thanks: 1,863 Thanked 896 Times in 746 Posts System Specs	Well what is warm ? Need more info . It shouldn't run any warmer than when in windows if you see a 10* difference then some thing is going on .

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Jun 26, 2009, 07:48 PM	#4
jaredudu Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 230 (0.15/day) Thanks: 22 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	Well my processor, northbridge , southbridge and video card are all warmer. And I dont mean the bios reading I mean to touch. :S

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Jun 26, 2009, 07:51 PM	#8
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Jun 26, 2009, 07:55 PM	#11
jaredudu Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 230 (0.15/day) Thanks: 22 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	Its a mid tower case. I didn't feel like buying a new one so I tried to save money by painting it black. But I could put a 120mm fan on the side panel

Jun 26, 2009, 08:02 PM	#14
jaredudu Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 230 (0.15/day) Thanks: 22 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	Alright thanks, I have a modular psu and someone told me it is safe to plug in fans while its powered on but Im not sure. Any insight?

Jun 26, 2009, 08:07 PM	#18
jaredudu Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 230 (0.15/day) Thanks: 22 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	It would probably be easier to take a 9v battery to figure out which pins to use. It would atleast spin a bit EDIT well i think i found the fan im going to use. its an old one but even off a 9v its a jet engine

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