HIS Preps Radeon HD 4350 iFan With PCI-E x1 Interface

malware · Jul 9, 2009, 02:50 PM

HIS company today launched Radeon HD 4350 iFan for people looking to buy a modern video card with PCI-Express x1 interface. Also boasting a low-profile design, HIS HD 4350 iFan PCI-E x1 is perfect for small PCs and HTPCs which motherboards that lack any PCI-E x16 slots. The HIS HD 4350 iFan PCI-E x1 is powered by active cooled ATI RV710 GPU boasting 80 Stream Processors, 512 MB of DDR2 memory and a 64-bit memory interface. The card has analog D-Sub, DVI and HDMI outputs. The card's clock speeds are set to 600 MHz for the GPU and 800 MHz for the memory. It is unclear how much this card will cost, neither when it should become available.

Source: TechConnect Magazine

mlee49 · Jul 9, 2009, 02:55 PM

I love how Nvidia and Ati literally play tennis with launching new cards. I know it's good marketing, but good grief!

I guess that I hate the most that they release the best cards that are way overpriced($500+) and then slowly release the other crap throughout the year. This is backfill garabage that wont ever see the massive Dell or Acer lineup's. I'd think HIS would be happy if they sold 100k units of this.

hat · Jul 9, 2009, 03:07 PM

I am really getting sick of seeing them (Nvidia and AMD are both guilty of this) releasing cards with rediculus frame buffer like this. Nobody who uses this card is going to need more than 128mb memory... espically with the crippling 64-bit bus.

tkpenalty · Jul 9, 2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

I am really getting sick of seeing them (Nvidia and AMD are both guilty of this) releasing cards with rediculus frame buffer like this. Nobody who uses this card is going to need more than 128mb memory... espically with the crippling 64-bit bus.

you do realise that the chipmakers no longer make chips of a smaller capacity these days?

newtekie1 · Jul 9, 2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee49

I love how Nvidia and Ati literally play tennis with launching new cards. I know it's good marketing, but good grief!

I guess that I hate the most that they release the best cards that are way overpriced($500+) and then slowly release the other crap throughout the year. This is backfill garabage that wont ever see the massive Dell or Acer lineup's. I'd think HIS would be happy if they sold 100k units of this.

I think you would be surprised at how many of these sell. There are a lot of people that would like PCI-E x1 cards. It might not be top of the line, but for them, it is probably better than what they already have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

I am really getting sick of seeing them (Nvidia and AMD are both guilty of this) releasing cards with rediculus frame buffer like this. Nobody who uses this card is going to need more than 128mb memory... espically with the crippling 64-bit bus.

To a point, I agree. However, marketting is a bitch. And customers seem to like to judge video cards based solely on how much memory is on the card. So if they can sucker people in by sticking insane amounts of memory on the card, they will.

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Originally Posted by tkpenalty

you do realise that the chipmakers no longer make chips of a smaller capacity these days?

Sure they do, there are HD4830s on the market with 256MB of RAM. But the price difference between 4 64MB chips and 4 128MB chips is probably almost 0, so why not stick 512MB on the card.

Semi-Lobster · Jul 9, 2009, 03:25 PM

I don't see why everybody is getting into a huff about this. Its not as if there are a whole lot other PCIeX1 on the market right now, it designed for HTPC and small computers. There are still many ITX boards that only have a PCIeX1 slot.

KainXS · Jul 9, 2009, 03:47 PM

most of the DDR2 128mb 256for 64bit memory buses is no longer made, so its easier to just buy 512mb than find a seller of DDR2 128mb that will probably cost more than 512mb since its kinda rare now.

Instead of buying this though I would snag up a normal x16 and cut the slot down to 1x

which you can even see by looking at this card HIS made this card from a 16X card and redesigned it so its missing some of the slot, it looks exactly the same as the HDMI HD4350 16x meaning theres nothing wrong with cutting the slot yourself.

Yukikaze · Jul 9, 2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KainXS

most of the DDR2 128mb 256for 64bit memory buses is no longer made, so its easier to just buy 512mb than find a seller of DDR2 128mb that will probably cost more than 512mb since its kinda rare now.

Instead of buying this though I would snag up a normal x16 and cut the slot down to 1x

Might not be an option on a small board with obstructions behind the slot. Then again, you CAN cut the card, but not many would.

lemonadesoda · Jul 9, 2009, 03:57 PM

1./ With such a small fan, why not implement a bigger heatsink and go passive/silent?
2./ Why dont they do 2x DVI out, with a dongle for oldskool VGA? Who uses the old D-sub socket these days? Much for useful for multiple screen setups to have 2x DVI.
3./ Will this board drive dual-link high res. displays?

theonedub · Jul 9, 2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

1./ With such a small fan, why not implement a bigger heatsink and go passive/silent?

My guess is that the SFF PCs this is meant for don't have good enough airflow for a passive card. Maybe the added bulk was a factor as well.

Steevo · Jul 9, 2009, 04:11 PM

+1 the fan sucks. Same fan I replaced three times in a year on my old MSI bard, and two of on other cheap work builds. The downside is the chip actually needs some cooling, and a cheap piece of crap like this and a fan is cheaper than a decent heatsink alone. So you are stuck with this.

newtekie1 · Jul 9, 2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

1./ With such a small fan, why not implement a bigger heatsink and go passive/silent?
2./ Why dont they do 2x DVI out, with a dongle for oldskool VGA? Who uses the old D-sub socket these days? Much for useful for multiple screen setups to have 2x DVI.
3./ Will this board drive dual-link high res. displays?

1.) I think the idea was to keep it a single slot card. All the passive HD4350's I've seen end up intruding on the second slot or end up not being low-profile.
2.) I'm sure connecting VGA via a ribbon cable is much easier than DVI. And some would lose the second digital output if they went low profile. If you need dual DVI monitors, use an HDMI to DVI converter.
3.) I don't see why it wouldn't, unless the DVI port isn't dual-link(and it should be). The HDMI port should be able to do 2560×1600@60Hz.

Mussels · Jul 9, 2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by newtekie1

1.) I think the idea was to keep it a single slot card. All the passive HD4350's I've seen end up intruding on the second slot or end up not being low-profile.
2.) I'm sure connecting VGA via a ribbon cable is much easier than DVI. And some would lose the second digital output if they went low profile. If you need dual DVI monitors, use an HDMI to DVI converter.
3.) I don't see why it wouldn't, unless the DVI port isn't dual-link(and it should be). The HDMI port should be able to do 2560×1600@60Hz.

i agree with all your three points. exactly what i was going to say.

KainXS · Jul 9, 2009, 05:47 PM

HIS already has a single slot passive HD4350

. . . . . .

I had it . . . . .

newtekie1 · Jul 9, 2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KainXS

HIS already has a single slot passive HD4350

. . . . . .

I had it . . . . .

PCI-E x1 also?

boogerlad · Jul 10, 2009, 02:35 AM

Every product has "i" now. I hate it.

Mussels · Jul 10, 2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by boogerlad

Every product has "i" now. I hate it.

HIS prepares a new card just for you: Radeon 4370 i.Hateit

boogerlad · Jul 10, 2009, 03:26 AM

rofl.

hat · Jul 10, 2009, 04:00 AM

Yeah... iFan? Really? :/

Mussels · Jul 10, 2009, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hat

Yeah... iFan? Really? :/

iDonotwant iFan.

its just a terrible 40mm thing, i wish they'd at least used a 60-70mm fan on it, could still be single slot then, but a lot quieter.

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Semi-Lobster Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 353 (0.25/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts	I don't see why everybody is getting into a huff about this. Its not as if there are a whole lot other PCIeX1 on the market right now, it designed for HTPC and small computers. There are still many ITX boards that only have a PCIeX1 slot.

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KainXS Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,701 (2.27/day) Thanks: 187 Thanked 466 Times in 383 Posts System Specs	HIS already has a single slot passive HD4350 . . . . . . I had it . . . . .

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