Good Cheap PSU?

DaveK · Jul 23, 2009, 10:50 AM

I know good and cheap don't go well together for a power supply, but I'll be building a budget rig for someone and my ASRock mobo, Pentium 4 630 and X1950 Pro will be going into it along with 2x1GB DDR2, a DVD drive and 2 60GB IDE HDDs. All that needs to be bought is a case and power supply, I was looking at the Corsair HX450W because Corsair are reliable and it's modular but it costs €70 and think 450W is a bit low, I thought it would be best getting a higher capacity PSU for more headroom for future upgrades.

The cheapest 500W is the this AXP for €30.99 but it's no name really, the next one up is the 500W OCZ StealthXStream for €57.24 and the 500W OCZ ModXStream

Any ideas, is 450W enough or would it be best getting one of the 500W PSUs?

As for the case I'm looking at the Antec 300 for €53.

MRCL · Jul 23, 2009, 10:59 AM

For that setup 400 is more than enough. I have a Silverstone Strider 400W, very silent and seems reliable.

werez · Jul 23, 2009, 11:07 AM

A 400W PSU is all you need , but don't buy generic ones , stick to Corsair , Coolermaster , OCZ and so on . The 450w Corsair is a good choice . +12V@33A , 80 PLUS Certified . On those specs , your peak will be at around 275W , and with overclocking you are looking at around 300 - 310W . So the 450W Corsair will get the job done .

Joe Public · Jul 23, 2009, 11:21 AM

One of my rigs uses an AsRock board, X1950 Pro but uses a Core-based Celeron with a 35W TDP instead of the 84W TDP Pentium 4 630. That rig pulls about 100W from the wall (with the CPU oc'd from 2 to 3 GHz), and is powered by a crusty old Chieftec 410W PSU and been fine for 2.5 years. You'll probably look at about 150W yourself without any overclocks. So go for a decent 400W, it's enough.

r9 · Jul 23, 2009, 11:30 AM

I had 685W Hantol PSU for 3 months and was running cool and stable. If you could find one would cost 25-30 eur.

Jul 23, 2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by r9

I had 685W Hantol PSU for 3 months and was running cool and stable. If you could find one would cost 25-30 eur.

my dads pc has that one pulling a x2 5000be + 3850 + 3 hd now

looks like its fine for ~1.5 years and its cheap

DaveK · Jul 23, 2009, 12:44 PM

Thanks for that info guys, the HX450W is nice, I want to use that one but I need to get the cost down.

OCZ StealthXStream - 400W - €45
Corsair - CX400W - 400W - €46
OCZ Fatal1ty - 400W - €49
OCZ ModXStream Pro - 400W - €49

The computer is a Dell going from 2.66GHz Pentium 4, 1256MB DDR, a PCI video card and a 60GB IDE drive to a custom built rig with a 3.0GHz Pentium 4 630, 2048MB DDR2, X1950 Pro and 2 60GB IDE drives. I wonder how far I can overclock that P4 630, shame about the CPU a dual core would have been nice.

What's the power consumption of the Pentium 4 630 anyone know? Would a dual core use less?

rampage · Jul 23, 2009, 01:00 PM

yeah a decent 400 watter is plenty, i would be suprised if your rig hit 200 watts gaming, as ive said many times my rig Oced and with a 30 watt water pump hits the 250 mark gaming

my pick out of the psu's you have listed would be the OCZ modXStream pro, there not the best psu, but its modular and so alot neater in the case, some ppl have said they have ripple issue but i dont think it would matter for what you are doing

kurosagi01 · Jul 23, 2009, 01:01 PM

i reconmend the corsair CX400w its a power house for such a psu,run some GTS250 or 4850 if you like on the 400w

werez · Jul 23, 2009, 01:15 PM

The P4 630 is a 84W TDP CPU . If you overclock it to 3400 (stock voltages) , your overclocked CPU wattage will be 95W . Any bump in voltages will result in a 115W power consumption . But i didn't check to see how high can that CPU go , but i figure you can get 3400 without raising the voltage .
It's capable of 300MHz+ FSB using the 15x multiplier so basically it will overclock like a P4 660 , close to 4.5GHz ( with GOOD cooling ) . But you need better memory to achive that frequency .
4000+ will be stable at 1.6V , but your CPU will suck up to 165W .
You can get 3900MHz at 1.5V and we are looking at 125W power consumption .
Your mainboard is the key here ... can`t know how it will perform , but in the best case scenario the 450W corsair will get the job done .
Edit : the X1950 PRO is not power hungry .. i think it sucks 70W in full load , so you can overclock it until it burns .. the corsair will still work like a charm

Pinchy · Jul 23, 2009, 01:19 PM

A 450W named psu (eg corsair) will actually output than those generic 500W PSU's.

For that system, even something like an Antec Basiq 380W will do it. I don't know about prices, but any "named" PSU @ 350W+ will do.

CDdude55 · Jul 23, 2009, 01:32 PM

My Stealthxsteam has been very good. Would definitely recommend.

Velvet Wafer · Jul 23, 2009, 01:38 PM

dont buy AXP its a pure crap brand, not delivering any function it should... it could neither power a dualcore+hd4850...

buy the modxstream... its really nice. believe me^^

LittleLizard · Jul 23, 2009, 01:52 PM

go for the 400w corsair, is the best of all 4

ASRockIQ · Jul 23, 2009, 02:01 PM

why not go with Rosewill. i have never had any issues. even go for FSB

FSB 450W

FSB 400W

Rosewill 400W

Rosewill 500W

kurosagi01 · Jul 23, 2009, 02:11 PM

his from europe asrockIQ,notice the euro symbol??

best 400w psu in europe i have to say is corsair 400w

ASRockIQ · Jul 23, 2009, 02:20 PM

ah, yeah then your right

Jul 23, 2009, 10:50 AM	#1
DaveK Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,268 (0.74/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 137 Times in 119 Posts System Specs	Good Cheap PSU? I know good and cheap don't go well together for a power supply, but I'll be building a budget rig for someone and my ASRock mobo, Pentium 4 630 and X1950 Pro will be going into it along with 2x1GB DDR2, a DVD drive and 2 60GB IDE HDDs. All that needs to be bought is a case and power supply, I was looking at the Corsair HX450W because Corsair are reliable and it's modular but it costs €70 and think 450W is a bit low, I thought it would be best getting a higher capacity PSU for more headroom for future upgrades. The cheapest 500W is the this AXP for €30.99 but it's no name really, the next one up is the 500W OCZ StealthXStream for €57.24 and the 500W OCZ ModXStream Any ideas, is 450W enough or would it be best getting one of the 500W PSUs? As for the case I'm looking at the Antec 300 for €53.

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Jul 23, 2009, 10:59 AM	#2
MRCL Join Date: May 2008 Location: Switzerland, Heart of Europe Posts: 3,798 (2.06/day) Thanks: 340 Thanked 862 Times in 705 Posts System Specs	For that setup 400 is more than enough. I have a Silverstone Strider 400W, very silent and seems reliable. __________________ [I.R.A.] FBi I wouldnt buy toilet paper from MSI as it may be missing the preforations

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Jul 23, 2009, 11:07 AM	#3
werez Join Date: May 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 298 (0.20/day) Thanks: 14 Thanked 46 Times in 35 Posts	A 400W PSU is all you need , but don't buy generic ones , stick to Corsair , Coolermaster , OCZ and so on . The 450w Corsair is a good choice . +12V@33A , 80 PLUS Certified . On those specs , your peak will be at around 275W , and with overclocking you are looking at around 300 - 310W . So the 450W Corsair will get the job done . Last edited by werez; Jul 23, 2009 at 11:14 AM.

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Jul 23, 2009, 11:21 AM	#4
Joe Public Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 122 (0.07/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts System Specs	One of my rigs uses an AsRock board, X1950 Pro but uses a Core-based Celeron with a 35W TDP instead of the 84W TDP Pentium 4 630. That rig pulls about 100W from the wall (with the CPU oc'd from 2 to 3 GHz), and is powered by a crusty old Chieftec 410W PSU and been fine for 2.5 years. You'll probably look at about 150W yourself without any overclocks. So go for a decent 400W, it's enough.

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Jul 23, 2009, 11:30 AM	#5
r9 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,054 (1.15/day) Thanks: 260 Thanked 286 Times in 258 Posts System Specs	I had 685W Hantol PSU for 3 months and was running cool and stable. If you could find one would cost 25-30 eur. __________________ “personally i think 3D is gay, but if it leads us closer towards holographic video then i am all for it!” -Easy Rhino

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:44 PM	#7
DaveK Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,268 (0.74/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 137 Times in 119 Posts System Specs	Thanks for that info guys, the HX450W is nice, I want to use that one but I need to get the cost down. OCZ StealthXStream - 400W - €45 Corsair - CX400W - 400W - €46 OCZ Fatal1ty - 400W - €49 OCZ ModXStream Pro - 400W - €49 The computer is a Dell going from 2.66GHz Pentium 4, 1256MB DDR, a PCI video card and a 60GB IDE drive to a custom built rig with a 3.0GHz Pentium 4 630, 2048MB DDR2, X1950 Pro and 2 60GB IDE drives. I wonder how far I can overclock that P4 630, shame about the CPU a dual core would have been nice. What's the power consumption of the Pentium 4 630 anyone know? Would a dual core use less?

Jul 23, 2009, 01:00 PM	#8
rampage Join Date: May 2007 Location: Port Fairy, Victoria, Australia Posts: 801 (0.36/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 72 Times in 67 Posts System Specs	yeah a decent 400 watter is plenty, i would be suprised if your rig hit 200 watts gaming, as ive said many times my rig Oced and with a 30 watt water pump hits the 250 mark gaming my pick out of the psu's you have listed would be the OCZ modXStream pro, there not the best psu, but its modular and so alot neater in the case, some ppl have said they have ripple issue but i dont think it would matter for what you are doing __________________ Torrent - Zotac Nano 320gb Hdd, 4 Gb, 42' plasma"

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Jul 23, 2009, 01:01 PM	#9
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Jul 23, 2009, 01:15 PM	#10
werez Join Date: May 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 298 (0.20/day) Thanks: 14 Thanked 46 Times in 35 Posts	The P4 630 is a 84W TDP CPU . If you overclock it to 3400 (stock voltages) , your overclocked CPU wattage will be 95W . Any bump in voltages will result in a 115W power consumption . But i didn't check to see how high can that CPU go , but i figure you can get 3400 without raising the voltage . It's capable of 300MHz+ FSB using the 15x multiplier so basically it will overclock like a P4 660 , close to 4.5GHz ( with GOOD cooling ) . But you need better memory to achive that frequency . 4000+ will be stable at 1.6V , but your CPU will suck up to 165W . You can get 3900MHz at 1.5V and we are looking at 125W power consumption . Your mainboard is the key here ... can`t know how it will perform , but in the best case scenario the 450W corsair will get the job done . Edit : the X1950 PRO is not power hungry .. i think it sucks 70W in full load , so you can overclock it until it burns .. the corsair will still work like a charm Last edited by werez; Jul 23, 2009 at 01:26 PM.

Jul 23, 2009, 01:19 PM	#11
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.78/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	A 450W named psu (eg corsair) will actually output than those generic 500W PSU's. For that system, even something like an Antec Basiq 380W will do it. I don't know about prices, but any "named" PSU @ 350W+ will do. __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

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Jul 23, 2009, 01:38 PM	#13
Velvet Wafer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North of Germany Posts: 3,849 (2.63/day) Thanks: 2,288 Thanked 1,026 Times in 839 Posts System Specs	dont buy AXP its a pure crap brand, not delivering any function it should... it could neither power a dualcore+hd4850... buy the modxstream... its really nice. believe me^^ __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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Jul 23, 2009, 01:52 PM	#14
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Jul 23, 2009, 02:01 PM	#15
ASRockIQ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Daphne, AL Posts: 763 (0.46/day) Thanks: 67 Thanked 63 Times in 61 Posts System Specs	why not go with Rosewill. i have never had any issues. even go for FSB FSB 450W FSB 400W Rosewill 400W Rosewill 500W

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Jul 23, 2009, 02:11 PM	#16
kurosagi01 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 2,578 (1.66/day) Thanks: 93 Thanked 417 Times in 390 Posts System Specs	his from europe asrockIQ,notice the euro symbol?? best 400w psu in europe i have to say is corsair 400w __________________ PSN: kurosagi01\|steamid: phalanx-88\| xfire: itachiasuka Heatware Laptop Clubhouse"join" Laptop: HP Compaq 6735s AMD Turion X2 2.0GHZ\|4GB DDR2 667\|250GB HD\|ATI Radeon HD3200\|Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Jul 23, 2009, 02:20 PM	#17
ASRockIQ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Daphne, AL Posts: 763 (0.46/day) Thanks: 67 Thanked 63 Times in 61 Posts System Specs	ah, yeah then your right

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