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$1100-$1400 to build / buy a computer

Reynardin

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So, about how long this computer should last: Do you think that I'll be able to keep this one for at least another two years, and not have much trouble?
 

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It should last a long time. You got some fast parts so it should be pretty fast for a few years :)
 

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All righty, that's what I need to know, cus I'm gonna get stuck with this thing for quite a long time... I can't see myself being in a position to buy another computer like this for another few years, as I'm going to me a junior in highschool next year lol.
 
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The key is to upgrade slowly, piece by piece. Get an e-bay account, post here often enough to gain trust, and then try to sell parts before the degrade to much to buy new ones. It's tricky (easier said than done often), and not always practical, but many times it's a cost effective way to stay w/ the tech times w/o having to spend a grand every couple of years. Spread out it doesn't hurt so bad, and if you sell parts that are 5 months old as opposed to 2 years old, you of course can get a decent amount for them to spend on something new.
 

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hm, i'll try that =)
 

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What is considered a bad/good/awesome 3dmark?
 
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Your system I'm guessing will score around 13-14k in 3dmark06 at stock, you can probably get up to 17-18k if you oc that e8400 enough. Vantage probably from p5k-p7k, depending on the oc (more gpu dependent w/ vantage.
 

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how well would I be able to run something like crysis? keep in mind that its resolution would be 1680 x 1050 or something like that
 

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Crysis.. You should be able to run all high at that res. I have a weaker card and I can get 30fps all high at 1920x1080.
 
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Don't worry about as5 compared to others. If you look at almost all the thermal paste reviews the don't give it time to setup which is why people say it does worse. Also if you burn it in you can get a 7-8C drop as long as you used the proper amount aka not too much and not too little. At least thats what i got for a drop from using the proper amount and burning it in. For all those who think burning in doesn't work it aligns the silver in the thermal paste so that it points from top to bottom increasing the thermal conduction. Which means it wont help you if there is no metal in the thermal paste. I swear by it. This is also why people say it doesn't work all the time is because it doesn't always have metal in the thermal paste.
 

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what does burning it in mean?
 

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what does burning it in mean?

It's when you run the hardware at defaults for 24-48 hours before overclocking. The same should be done with high quality speakers by not turning them loud.

By doing this is called burning in the hardware you should NEVER overload \ overclock new electronic's when there new as it highers the chance of faults.

EDIT: Some thermal pastes \ greeses require it too.
 
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More specifically you run it under high load at stock speeds. Normally if you get a bad chip by doing this it will fail in the first 24-48hrs and that way you dont have it fail when you overclock it. Because once you have overclocked it you have voided the warranty. You can do it with ram, video cards and hard drives also (although i dont recommend doing it to the hard drive). Most companies like Voodoo and Falcon Northwest do this or at least offer it it makes them look better because their stuff doesnt fail out of the box like some companies stuff does :cough: alienware :cough:.
 

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OCZ Freeze has been known to be 1-3'c cooler than 5, MX-2 not sure. but OCZ Freeze doesn't require burn in and is alot easier to handle.

- Christine
 
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Yea my OCZ Freeze stuff was easy to spread and I took the HS off a few times it still looks good.
 

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OCZ Freeze has been known to be 1-3'c cooler than MX-5, MX-2 not sure. but OCZ Freeze doesn't require burn in and is alot easier to handle.

- Christine

so I really should have ordered OCZ freeze instead? damn.
 

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did you order MX-2? if you were building computers all day I would probably pick OCZ Freeze.

- Christine
 

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what is MX-2? I ordered arctic silver 5, is that MX-5 or something?
 

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MX 5 is Arctic Cooling's paste. Its alright.. its only a <5c diff.
 

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MX-5 = Arctic Silver 5, just woke up. corrected it, you probably should of ordered MX-2 but it doesn't really matter.

- Christine
 

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and OCZ freeze is how big a difference?
 

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1-3'c cooler than AS5, easier to use, no burn in time. :/ lol

- Christine
 

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A few c from Freezer and 5-6 from AS5.
 

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Processor Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor @3.5 Ghz
Motherboard DFI BloodIron P35-T2RL LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Cooling XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler / Arctic Silver 5 / SILVERSTONE 120mm fan
Memory G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
Video Card(s) EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI
Storage Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive / 300GB external usb
Display(s) SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor
Case APEVIA X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Audio Device(s) Integrated
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V Power Supply
Software Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders
ah well, it doesn't make that big a difference, so I won't bother ordering it and waiting for it to ship 2 days after the computer.
 
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Location
Flint, MI
Processor Intel Core i7-870 @ 4.0GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte P55A UD4P
Cooling CoolIT Water Cooling solution
Memory 2x2GB Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600MHz cas 8
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 580
Storage WD 320GB x2 in raid0
Display(s) Samsung 2253BW 22" Widescreen
Case APEVIA X-JUPITER Black
Audio Device(s) Creative Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty
Power Supply OCZ modXtreme 700W modular
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
I recommend you don't get the 8800GTS (G92), Try this Gigabyte 8800gt:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125088

Its a lot cheaper, very quiet, has a custom PCB made by gigabyte so its actually shorter, and it has built in voltmod software that will let you overvolt from 1.1 to 1.2volts, review websites have taken the GPU to 800mhz, at that speed, you will beat the 8800gts (g92) even overclocked to its max, or at least be where that would be, for about 60 bucks cheaper After rebate.
 
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