$1500+ wasted...

[TheMailMan78]

And what if it find problems? Seriously, it will take just a couple of minutes.

I'm with you Frick.

 

[OneMoar]

fix your memory timing>voltage settings in your bios > run the FKIn mem test EVERYTHING You have listed is indicative of bad ram
random file corruption = RAM throwing new parts at it untill you find the problem is a waste of time and money and the incorrect way to fix it

 

[Evolved]

ok, i guess it all comes down to MEMTEST!!!!

 

[qubit]

ok, i guess it all comes down to MEMTEST!!!!

...but remember how to interpret it. I absolutely think you should try running with the one stick that does show a serial number, too. If that works, then try the others one by one.

Bloody hell, I wish I could find my previous post with the memtest example. :shadedshu It would really illustrate my point nicely.

 

[Peter1986C]

Let it run severeral-run loops for each module, I have seen Memtest86+ reporting no errors during the first run only to find them still later in the loop :facepalm: I have to guess here, but I suppose that that is that some tests are a bit random in de "pattern" of the data generated for the test, hence that one run is not reliable enough. I suggest 7 passes per loop.

 

[qubit]

Let it run severeral-run loops for each module, I have seen Memtest86+ reporting no errors during the first run only to find them still later in the loop :facepalm: I have to guess here, but I suppose that that is that some tests are a bit random in de "pattern" of the data generated for the test, hence that one run is not reliable enough. I suggest 7 passes per loop.

Yeah +1, this is what I'm saying. The old Abit AN8 Ultra mobo I had was rock solid with 2 gigs, but a recent upgrade to 4 gigs would run memtest 100% for 24 hours and many loops, yet would crash Windows within a minute or so of booting, or even during booting.

The cause? BIOS bugs. Setting various parameters in the BIOS manually cured it completely; in particular, it had to be set for Weak RAM Drive. Go figure. It now memtests and runs Windows perfectly, even with stress tests.

 

[Evolved]

i think i'll try ONE module at a time.

should i test each module individually, PER SLOT?

so basically testing each individual module in each slot, with a total of FOUR tests per module!

 

[qubit]

i think i'll try ONE module at a time.

should i test each module individually, PER SLOT?

so basically testing each individual module in each slot, with a total of FOUR tests per module!

That's very thorough and a fine thing to do, but will take a lot of time. I think trying all the modules individually in the slot nearest the CPU* will be good enough. If/when it starts playing up, then you can take it from there.

Oh, remember that island of stability I mentioned? If you reach it, then I strongly recommend upgrading to the latest BIOS. RAM stability problems are quite common fixes in revised BIOSes and they often don't list everything in the changelog. Again, I only know this from personal experience. There's no magic in how I know and it doesn't make me any better than anyone else.

*Or whichever your mobo manual says you should use for one stick.

 

[Evolved]

That's very thorough and a fine thing to do, but will take a lot of time. I think trying all the modules individually in the slot nearest the CPU* will be good enough. If/when it starts playing up, then you can take it from there.

Oh, remember that island of stability I mentioned? If you reach it, then I strongly recommend upgrading to the latest BIOS. RAM stability problems are quite common fixes in revised BIOSes and they often don't list everything in the changelog. Again, I only know this from personal experience. There's no magic in how I know and it doesn't make me any better than anyone else.

*Or whichever your mobo manual says you should use for one stick.

well, what if it still doesn't boot with ANY module?
would that mean it's an HDD problem?

It's odd, because just last night, my PC was working fine.
I installed all my programs, updated windows, installed SP1, and played some games.

but then over night, while downloading off steam, it crashes and cannot boot anymore.
It'll BSOD before it can get into windows, or while trying to load windows.

did my ram just die over night?

I guess we'll have to wait and see 'till later.

 

[erocker]

well, what if it still doesn't boot with ANY module?
would that mean it's an HDD problem?

It's odd, because just last night, my PC was working fine.
I installed all my programs, updated windows, installed SP1, and played some games.

but then over night, while downloading off steam, it crashes and cannot boot anymore.
It'll BSOD before it can get into windows, or while trying to load windows.

did my ram just die over night?

I guess we'll have to wait and see 'till later.

Instead of worrying over it. Test your RAM, test your HDD. Sounds like you've had bad RAM or HDD since the get-go.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Freezes up
- booting to windows sometimes does not work
- can't open my games for some odd reason

These 3 problems I have experinced before and are likely attributed to the hard drive, swap it for another and see if the problems persist if they do, then you may need to look at your motherboard.

 

[qubit]

well, what if it still doesn't boot with ANY module?
would that mean it's an HDD problem?

It's odd, because just last night, my PC was working fine.
I installed all my programs, updated windows, installed SP1, and played some games.

but then over night, while downloading off steam, it crashes and cannot boot anymore.
It'll BSOD before it can get into windows, or while trying to load windows.

did my ram just die over night?

I guess we'll have to wait and see 'till later.

Instead of worrying over it. Test your RAM, test your HDD. Sounds like you've had bad RAM or HDD since the get-go.

Yah, just get testing and take it from there. This situation is like a game of chess, there's too many possibilities and unforseens to judge it from here. It'll start to narrow it down once the testing gets going. This is the essence of troubleshooting.

I like your new avatar erocker.

 

[DannibusX]

Testing your RAM and HDD is an important step. I had similar issues when I first put my Intel system together. It turns out that the BIOS default for the voltage was too low for the RAM I had installed, so I bumped it up until my system was stable.

Might want to look into that as well.

 

[20mmrain]

After buying all the top of the line components (see specs), it's the most defective, unresponsive, and dysfunctional PC I have ever used.

- Freezes up
- booting to windows sometimes does not work
- can't open my games for some odd reason
- ram is reading 1333Mhz instead of 1600Mhz
- some files are corrupt?! in my system
- disc stops spinning in my NEW optical drive
- and a whole plethora of other things
- windows is telling me that google chrome is a corrupted file?!

my 3 year old build is better than this piece of shit. why is this happening? what the hell did i do wrong with this build?

Try setting the RAM in the BIOS.... Make sure Memory Booster is Disabled and also Internal PLL Voltage is Disabled (That setting is great for higher overclocks but lower ones will cause issues most of the time)

Also make sure you set the timings for your RAM correctly in DRAM Timing Control and set the correct frequency in Memory Frequency Setting.

If you are using High end Hard Drives use the Intel 6 GB/s SATA connections instead of the Marvell ones. Other in other forums have had issues while using the Marvell connections when AHCI is enabled. You can use the Marvell connections too but most have discovered on the OS drive use the Intel ones for better stability.

*Edit* I believe you were the same guy asking about the BIOS..... But in case you weren't try updating that, Also Run Memtest and a Hard Drive test of some sort. Check to make sure you are not finding any stability issues with either of those parts. A re-seating of the CPU never hurt anyone either.... If you have a magnifying glass.... look to make sure all the pads on the CPU are making contact with the Pins. Check the pins them selves if you haven't already.

If you have access to another power supply test your system with another power supply. You may be getting you issues because of your power supply failing. (I doubt this one but it is defiantly a chance)

Make sure all of your Drivers are updated....If you have to re-install your OS again download the latest drivers from Asus's website.

Uninstall ROG software..... I have had experiences and so have others.... that some ROG software will cause issues.... for example ROG connect caused my EVGA GTX 580's to run at 782 Mhz (Instead of there 772Mhz) not matter what I did until I uninstalled that program. The latest Nvidia drivers seemed to have fixed the problem what ever it was. But still Asus's software is known to cause some issues.

The above listed are all things you can try before replacing items...... but if all else fails.

Last start replacing things.... start out with you Hard Drives

Next I would try RAM

After that If you didn't test with another Power supply you had laying around.... I would try that.

Finally I would try Motherboard.

Just something to give a shot let us know how it turns out

 

[twicksisted]

You should also try posting this on the Asus/Corsair forums as it sounds like a possible memory compatibility issue with either the motherboard or the the memory chips. Both of those models are widely used in the industry so its likely someone else on their forums will have a similar issue to you.

You may find your memory is not on the asus motherboard QVL or corsair may say that those two ram kits are different and because of that arent stable.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Jesus Christ on a cross! Just run the bios on default and memtest from a USB. Passes? Good! No? Bad RAM. Screwing with the BIOS before any basic testing is begging for more issues. RAM should be stable on DEFAULT BIOS SETTINGS.

 

[qubit]

Jesus Christ on a cross! Just run the bios on default and memtest from a USB. Passes? Good! No? Bad RAM. Screwing with the BIOS before any basic testing is begging for more issues. RAM should be stable on DEFAULT BIOS SETTINGS.

Yes indeed it should and this should be done as well. Unfortunately, there could still be issues with it even if it passes memtest, as I explained a few posts ago.

 

[20mmrain]

Jesus Christ on a cross! Just run the bios on default and memtest from a USB. Passes? Good! No? Bad RAM. Screwing with the BIOS before any basic testing is begging for more issues. RAM should be stable on DEFAULT BIOS SETTINGS.

Very true and good point!!! But his specific quote was "- ram is reading 1333Mhz instead of 1600Mhz" If this is one of his issues.... I and I believe others were addressing that comment. Even at default though not all RAM will set to their default settings from the beginning. If you want to Run it at it's default DDR3 1333Mhz then I would still make sure the BIOS is not setting the timings to something that they are not supposed to be. JMO

Also he did do another thread on how to update the BIOS for his motherboard. After he figured that out.... I am sure it was set to default during that situation. I don't believe it fixed his problem either.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Very true and good point!!! But his specific quote was "- ram is reading 1333Mhz instead of 1600Mhz" If this is one of his issues.... I and I believe others were addressing that comment. Even at default though not all RAM will set to their default settings from the beginning. If you want to Run it at it's default DDR3 1333Mhz then I would still make sure the BIOS is not setting the timings to something that they are not supposed to be. JMO

Having to adjust anything with the RAM to get it to run stable without an OC screams bad RAM. Unless his mobo is bad which I highly doubt. Don't care what the mobo defaults the RAM to. It should be stable. End of story. What its rated at and what its at from default are two highly different things.

 

[purefun65]

reseat cpu in the socket, then set bios to default. if newer bios is available then flash mb. run 1 stick of ram memtest. thats the order you should follow. I have seen some weird issues with cpu socket or hsf putting uneven pressure.

 

[Evolved]

Wowza!

BIOS is DEFAULT! Always had been! never touched anything!

LIKE I SAID BEFORE! last night, i played my PC games FOR HOURS! and even ran Prime 95!

NO PROBLEMS!

So how could this be a ram, mobo, or CPU issue?!

 

[TheMailMan78]

Wowza!

BIOS is DEFAULT! Always had been! never touched anything!

LIKE I SAID BEFORE! last night, i played my PC games FOR HOURS! and even ran Prime 95!

NO PROBLEMS!

So how could this be a ram, mobo, or CPU issue?!

Run memtest before you make my nuts explode please.

 

[OneMoar]

defaults are wrong fix the ram settings so they match the specs on the package

 

[20mmrain]

Having to adjust anything with the RAM to get it to run stable without an OC screams bad RAM. Unless his mobo is bad which I highly doubt. Don't care what the mobo defaults the RAM to. It should be stable. End of story. What its rated at and what its at from default are two highly different things.

I would agree with you most of the time....Although my experience with G.skill ECO ram.... caused me to rethink that position...and the way my Board set the timings. Just my experience.

Wowza!

BIOS is DEFAULT! Always had been! never touched anything!

LIKE I SAID BEFORE! last night, i played my PC games FOR HOURS! and even ran Prime 95!

NO PROBLEMS!

So how could this be a ram, mobo, or CPU issue?!

I assemble really 50 or more computers a day for a major OEM manufacturer...... and with the amount of problems you are experiencing.... I am suggesting things that come to mind I see regularly. My post above is not saying it is all of those things.... my point is that those are all things you can try. To fix your issues. I don't tell you what I do to say I am smarter then anyone.... that is not the way I want it to come out.... I just mention it because I see crazy odd things like this everyday. Since you don't have millions of dollars of stock in a warehouse like we do...(So you can swap parts like water) I mention the things above because they won't cost any money for shipping. Try the simplest solutions first no matter who suggests them.... and work your way up from there. Eventually you will come across the problem.

 

[OneMoar]

ram is rated at 1600 and he says its running at 1333 = something is not set right