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meh

save your money for an OLED monitor :p
 
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a couple more years.

OLED fixes a lot of problems inherit to LCD/LED technology. that's more exciting to me than 4K which is just a buzzword.

edit: LCD/LED displays don't have the pop, black levels or motion resolution like OLED/Plasma. 1080p content will look better on OLED vs. 4K content on a LCD. if I buy a 4K monitor i'm just going to crave 4K content that will never come.
 
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a couple more years.
Like has been said for the past 10 years. Buy a 4K LCD now and it will have died of natural causes long before a comparably specced and comparably priced OLED display hits the market.
 
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That Monoprice is a TN panel, so no thanks. Also, like @BumbleBee said, I'm more for actual image quality, meaning accurate (but also vibrant) colors, good contrast and wide angles, rather than sheer resolution.

Love what MassDrop does, though.
 

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See, I'm the exact opposite. I don't care to much about perfect color representation, but I do care about lower latency. You got to newegg and look at the monitors section and filter it to monitors with 1,2, or 3ms response times and there isn't an IPS panel in the list. Heck, if you include 4ms there is only 1 IPS panel listed. IPS panels ghost too much for me, I can't play any games or even watch movies on them, so they are basically worthless for anything but content creation to me. Give me a TN panel for gaming/video watching, give me an IPS panel for Photoshop/Premier. Both panel types have their place.
 
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those response times are not accurate at all.

IPS monitors do have true 8-bit colour but I don't like them because 60hz gives me a headache lol (i'm used to CRT and Plasma).

the only way to get the full story is to run the panel through test patterns and generate a calman report.

TFT Central does a real good job at reviewing monitors but they only review Euro models.
 

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See, I'm the exact opposite. I don't care to much about perfect color representation, but I do care about lower latency. You got to newegg and look at the monitors section and filter it to monitors with 1,2, or 3ms response times and there isn't an IPS panel in the list. Heck, if you include 4ms there is only 1 IPS panel listed. IPS panels ghost too much for me, I can't play any games or even watch movies on them, so they are basically worthless for anything but content creation to me. Give me a TN panel for gaming/video watching, give me an IPS panel for Photoshop/Premier. Both panel types have their place.

TN viewing is crap plain and simple, OLED be around soon enough and 4k and video cards would of matured some more too to play the content and there be more content to make it more worth while.

Going from CCFL to TN o hell no.

those response times are not accurate at all.

IPS monitors do have true 8-bit colour but I don't like them because 60hz gives me a headache lol (i'm used to CRT and Plasma).

the only way to get the full story is to run the panel through test patterns and generate a calman report.

TFT Central does a real good job at reviewing monitors but they only review Euro models.

CRT gives me a headache under 75Hz but LED and such don't. I like see some 75-90Hz LED\OLED TV's but that will never happen lol.
 

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TN viewing is crap plain and simple, OLED be around soon enough and 4k and video cards would of matured some more too to play the content and there be more content to make it more worth while.

No, it is not crap. The color representation is good enough for gaming and movie viewing, and the while the viewing angles aren't as good as IPS when is the last time you looked at your computer monitor from any direction other than head on? For me, thats never.

And OLED isn't coming any time soon. We don't even have decent sized high resolution prototypes. So that means they are at least 2 years out.
 
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my TN panel has crappy viewing angles but it can do 8-bit colour like an IPS (6-bit + FRC) so IPS monitors are not seeing more than me.

i'll be honest.. I have never had a cinematic experience through a monitor lol

Youtube videos is about all I can take.
 
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See, I'm the exact opposite. I don't care to much about perfect color representation, but I do care about lower latency. You got to newegg and look at the monitors section and filter it to monitors with 1,2, or 3ms response times and there isn't an IPS panel in the list. Heck, if you include 4ms there is only 1 IPS panel listed. IPS panels ghost too much for me, I can't play any games or even watch movies on them, so they are basically worthless for anything but content creation to me. Give me a TN panel for gaming/video watching, give me an IPS panel for Photoshop/Premier. Both panel types have their place.

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I prefer speed and response over color reproduction and viewing angles. For me, TN panels are still the go to monitor for quick response times and high refresh rates (120Hz+), but it's good to see an IPS monitor at least getting faster response times.

No, it is not crap. The color representation is good enough for gaming and movie viewing, and the while the viewing angles aren't as good as IPS when is the last time you looked at your computer monitor from any direction other than head on? For me, thats never.

Exactly.
 

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my TN panel has crappy viewing angles but it can do 8-bit colour like an IPS (6-bit + FRC) so IPS monitors are not seeing more than me.
Just because the display supports deep color doesn't mean that it's properly reproducing the colors. It's important to remember that.

I like my IPS displays because I'm mostly looking at text on my displays so contrast is far more important than refresh rate, but even with most games, 5ms doesn't have a whole lot of ghosting. The benefit though is that these displays are crystal clear, images look amazing, and I don't need deep color for things to look good.

On the balance, I do also have a 42" Plasma in the other room and like OLED the biggest benefit is that each pixel is a cell that lights up on its own.

It's important to understand that LCDs have a backlight that's always on and a panel that blocks light to produce the image on the display. Plasmas have no backlighting, a single glass panel with cells in it that glow when exposed to electric current. As a result the plasma actually generates light for each pixel in contrast to LCDs which block light in each pixel. As a result, whites can be much brighter on LCDs (not always, good plasmas, are good) and blacks are very much so darker on Plasmas as there is no bleed from the LCD. Additionally, IPS and Plasmas both benefit from extended angle viewing.

Edit: Also Plasma "refresh" rates are a bit different than LCDs. I'm sure some of you have heard of things like "600Hz sub-field drive". While a Plasma may run at 60Hz, in this case it means the plasma controller will send 600 current pulses per second on a 60Hz signal, resulting in 10 pulses within any given frame to keep any given pixel lit. I just thought I should throw that out there.

Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen a TN display of the same resolution produce an image as crisp and clear as the Dells I have now.

No, it is not crap. The color representation is good enough for gaming and movie viewing, and the while the viewing angles aren't as good as IPS when is the last time you looked at your computer monitor from any direction other than head on? For me, thats never.
It's not about you viewing the display. It's about others viewing it while you're doing something. TN panels make it harder for more people to stand around and look over your shoulder which I do very often at work (showing people things at my desk, that is). Less often at home, but it's not like it's never important.
 
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those response times are not accurate at all.

IPS monitors do have true 8-bit colour but I don't like them because 60hz gives me a headache lol (i'm used to CRT and Plasma).

the only way to get the full story is to run the panel through test patterns and generate a calman report.

TFT Central does a real good job at reviewing monitors but they only review Euro models.
www.prad.de
 

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No, it is not crap. The color representation is good enough for gaming and movie viewing, and the while the viewing angles aren't as good as IPS when is the last time you looked at your computer monitor from any direction other than head on? For me, thats never.

And OLED isn't coming any time soon. We don't even have decent sized high resolution prototypes. So that means they are at least 2 years out.

You gotta be on about the Sammy here well that's fcked caps blown on that many months ago, although the second computer still has a crappy TN although it's better with the viewing the picture quality is crap which shows mostly in games the colors are not true. All so the second computer used to be used as just a server until Diablo 3 came out and we never got to replacing it.

Now on the 1st computer i require best possible viewing angle as we watch TV and my wife watches me play games ( currently FC4 ).
 

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It's not about you viewing the display. It's about others viewing it while you're doing something. TN panels make it harder for more people to stand around and look over your shoulder which I do very often at work (showing people things at my desk, that is). Less often at home, but it's not like it's never important.
The viewing angles on TN panels are easily good enough for someone to look over your should and see what you are doing without color distortion.
 

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The viewing angles on TN panels are easily good enough for someone to look over your should and see what you are doing without color distortion.
Not when you're looking at a terminal and there is more than one person in which case, people are standing next to me, not "over my shoulder" and my display is already tilted towards me. The point is that it's not useless, just not useful in most circumstances at home.
 
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Sorry, I am holding out for 32K OLED 55 inch for under $500.
 
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