need opinion for my budget rig

[immab33tch]

Hi guys what do you think of my budget build? Im going to use it for web development will be using photoshop some slight video editing after effects and premier pro. No gaming, no overclocking.

Heres my list:
CPU - I will be using Intel Core i5-3470 (non K) cause we wont be overclocking = $127
SSD - crucial mx100 128gb for OS and applications = $83
HDD - we have cloud in the office we completely rely on it and external drive so i dont need additional internal drive - $0
GPU - palit storm x oc GTX 750 Ti (this im not sure but i guess it should be fine, right?) = $151
MOBO - asrock B75M-DGS since we wont be overclocking, only 1 internal drive sata 6gbps, usb 3.0 for external drive and 1 dedicated GPU no SLI, you think its a perfect mobo? Any thoughts on this? = $51
RAM - gskill Ripjaws 2x4gb cl7 for $71 the mobo only support 2 slot i wanted to max it to 16gb but i cant find compatible memory module on motherboard list, can you guys help?
CPU Cooler - since no overclocking and office is airconditioned i will be using the stack heatsink and instead buy a reliable case fan like enermax, what do you think? budget = $23
PSU = corsair CS650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular = $103 im thinking of getting cs550m which is $10 less but im afraid of getting short in power
Casing - Corsair Carbide 200R i dont need fancy cause no one will see it anyway cause its under my desk = $69

Total cost: $678

So guys any thoughts, violent reaction? im from Philippines so its kinda hard to find some hardwares.

thanks in advance.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Nice post with explanations.

I'm afraid of getting short in power

You have a GPU that uses less than 75 watts and a CPU that uses less than 100. At most, this system will use 200 watts (WAY over provisioned). You can easily run this with a (good) 300 watt PSU. Saave money on the PSU and get an i7.

i wanted to max it to 16gb but i cant find compatible memory module on motherboard list, can you guys help?

I don't think you'll have any problems with 16 GB kits from any of the main memory suppliers. Crucial says this 16 GB kit works: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/b75m-dgs/CT3581116

 

[Schmuckley]

It's not bad for what you're doing.
I always see something, though
Your CPU: $127
Your SSD: $83
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132489&ignorebbr=1 $70
RAM (doubled up because you have 4 slots with diff mobo) $142
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487096 $90
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...386&cm_re=heatsink-_-9SIA59T1RR8386-_-Product $18
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109 $33
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151144&ignorebbr=1 $60
Total: $623 IF you get the chip you're looking at.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

It's not bad for what you're doing.
I always see something, though
Your CPU: $127
Your SSD: $83
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132489&ignorebbr=1 $70
RAM (doubled up because you have 4 slots with diff mobo) $142
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487096 $90
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...386&cm_re=heatsink-_-9SIA59T1RR8386-_-Product $18
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109 $33
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151144&ignorebbr=1 $60
Total: $623 IF you get the chip you're looking at.

phillipines.

You have to look carefully at the prices you can find. I have a friend who recently built a new rig in Malaysia, component prices in those parts can go 50% off from one shop to another.

I would suggest looking for a Haswell CPU and a 256GB MX100, there should not be much difference in price for either. For motherboards you would have to look at them on a case by case basis and compare the prices you can get them at, because I expect they will be somewhat different than MSRPs.

1600MHz C9 RAM is fine, just look for 1.5v stuff if the clocks are under 2133. Try looking aroundd at the AMD GPUs, you might not have to pay much extra for a 960 or 280x although you might need to be careful with case fans when buying low cost cases. Power wise 550w should be fine for either option, although 650w will probably be good since you are going to be operating in a hot environment.

 

[Liquid Cool]

I have the i5 3470, rather nice cpu for what it is. The i5 3470's are/we're popular in HP business units and you can usually pick up a complete pc for the price of the chip. I picked up my complete pc(minus monitor) for a $102.50(see system specs), then added a GTX 750ti and a Samsung SSD. a little under 300 for the same specs.

Here's an example

Do they have eBay in PI? Wouldn't hurt to take a look.

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[kn00tcn]

what's wrong with overclocking? you dont need 16gb (i also do web development, casual cinema4d & after effects), i hope your cloud is gigabit, 750ti is probably fine (i think it should be $120 though, it's hit $100 on sales before)

remember, people had to do all these things for years on weaker hardware, so it's not going to make THAT much of a difference, except the cpu which is what you need to be the fastest for rendering (but some seconds or minutes difference still isnt that big of a deal)

 

[Frick]

what's wrong with overclocking?

Unlocked CPU's cost more.

And where I live Corsair PSU's tend to be overpriced, maybe they aren't where you live.

 

[immab33tch]

Unlocked CPU's cost more.

And where I live Corsair PSU's tend to be overpriced, maybe they aren't where you live.

yes the price difference is like $30-$40 and not to mention you need to buy good mobo and a set of good ram with good PSU, right?

 

[immab33tch]

what's wrong with overclocking? you dont need 16gb (i also do web development, casual cinema4d & after effects), i hope your cloud is gigabit, 750ti is probably fine (i think it should be $120 though, it's hit $100 on sales before)

remember, people had to do all these things for years on weaker hardware, so it's not going to make THAT much of a difference, except the cpu which is what you need to be the fastest for rendering (but some seconds or minutes difference still isnt that big of a deal)

this is the advise that i need my hands itch on powerful computer but i cant afford lol ... so im good with 8gb? on your experience as a web developer did you ever felt of having a fast computer or its just a few seconds difference .. all i wanted is to save large images without waiting too long, want a fast boot, want my applications to open very fast and can multi task and do minimal video editing

 

[immab33tch]

phillipines.

You have to look carefully at the prices you can find. I have a friend who recently built a new rig in Malaysia, component prices in those parts can go 50% off from one shop to another.

I would suggest looking for a Haswell CPU and a 256GB MX100, there should not be much difference in price for either. For motherboards you would have to look at them on a case by case basis and compare the prices you can get them at, because I expect they will be somewhat different than MSRPs.

1600MHz C9 RAM is fine, just look for 1.5v stuff if the clocks are under 2133. Try looking aroundd at the AMD GPUs, you might not have to pay much extra for a 960 or 280x although you might need to be careful with case fans when buying low cost cases. Power wise 550w should be fine for either option, although 650w will probably be good since you are going to be operating in a hot environment.

im not really into AMD also i think my budget will be just $700 thanks for your input

 

[immab33tch]

It's not bad for what you're doing.
I always see something, though
Your CPU: $127
Your SSD: $83
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132489&ignorebbr=1 $70
RAM (doubled up because you have 4 slots with diff mobo) $142
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487096 $90
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...386&cm_re=heatsink-_-9SIA59T1RR8386-_-Product $18
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109 $33
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151144&ignorebbr=1 $60
Total: $623 IF you get the chip you're looking at.

hey thanks but some of items are not available here on our country

 

[immab33tch]

Nice post with explanations.

You have a GPU that uses less than 75 watts and a CPU that uses less than 100. At most, this system will use 200 watts (WAY over provisioned). You can easily run this with a (good) 300 watt PSU. Saave money on the PSU and get an i7.

I don't think you'll have any problems with 16 GB kits from any of the main memory suppliers. Crucial says this 16 GB kit works: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/b75m-dgs/CT3581116

can you believe it this kit costs $198 i think i'll live with just 8gb what do you think?

but anyway thanks for the tip on PSU can you suggest a cheaper that my current? i'll use what i save on something else maybe on i7 or wherever i think i need to upgrade.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

8GB will be enough.

Are haswell CPUs more expensive than the ivy bridge ones. Could you maybe provide a link to some of the shops you are using, might be more useful for providing advice.

Please don't multi-post. Group all replies in one post, keeps the clutter down

 

[kn00tcn]

this is the advise that i need my hands itch on powerful computer but i cant afford lol ... so im good with 8gb? on your experience as a web developer did you ever felt of having a fast computer or its just a few seconds difference .. all i wanted is to save large images without waiting too long, want a fast boot, want my applications to open very fast and can multi task and do minimal video editing

how large images? 1080p video editing?

i've got an i7-2670qm / 8gb ram / gtx570m / ST9750420AS (laptop) & an overclocked 3.6ghz q9550 / 4gb ram / gtx660 / ST1000DM003 (desktop) for testing, i dont 'believe' in the relevance of the performance boost of SSDs just yet, especially on a budget

i even have an overclocked athlonxp-m 2.4ghz / 2gb ram / old hard drive for an actual comparison of a 'slow' computer

it probably doesnt even matter if you're low on ram or reading/writing to page file/scratch disk with an SSD, but you wouldnt run into this unless you're really pushing 8gb ram usage (how? have multiple adobe apps open + over 1gb browser usage? aftereffects caches every frame to ram until there is no more, but you can control the max amount & it may even purge old frames if other apps need it)

a powerful computer is only good for intense rendering, intense math, intense games, & lasting for many years unless it loses driver or OS support

would you buy used? can you find a sandy bridge i7 2600(k) so that you can have a good cpu?

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

how large images? 1080p video editing?

i've got an i7-2670qm / 8gb ram / gtx570m / ST9750420AS (laptop) & an overclocked 3.6ghz q9550 / 4gb ram / gtx660 / ST1000DM003 (desktop) for testing, i dont 'believe' in the relevance of the performance boost of SSDs just yet, especially on a budget

I have run into the paging problem with my laptop, and the difference between the laptop and the desktop is very noticeable. I do have a couple dozen chrome tabs open usually, and it mainly occurs when jumping out of some game back to chrome, but the 3s wait for a tab to re-open is rather bothersome. On my desktop it is far quicker.

That said, I am definitely considering going up to 16GB on my desktop.

SSD is worth it IMO, but I would really push for the 256GB MX100 rather than 128GB, the 256GB is already falling a little behind some of the write speeds from the 550MB/s cap, but the 128GB version suffers from the lower bandwidth a lot so gives little over a normal HDD.

 

[kn00tcn]

I have run into the paging problem with my laptop, and the difference between the laptop and the desktop is very noticeable. I do have a couple dozen chrome tabs open usually, and it mainly occurs when jumping out of some game back to chrome, but the 3s wait for a tab to re-open is rather bothersome. On my desktop it is far quicker.

That said, I am definitely considering going up to 16GB on my desktop.

SSD is worth it IMO, but I would really push for the 256GB MX100 rather than 128GB, the 256GB is already falling a little behind some of the write speeds from the 550MB/s cap, but the 128GB version suffers from the lower bandwidth a lot so gives little over a normal HDD.

you're out of 8gb ram or windows decided to page a minimized app? remember, windows virtualizes everything, plus in my experience, heavy hard drive usage (reads/writes) ends up being cached to ram.... you can see this in taskmanager how 'free' & 'available' ram are 2 separate numbers, when free is at 0, things start to chug but still not as bad as actually being out of ram (gather 'round children for my story of a 384mb ram winxp with a slow not dense fragmented IDE hard drive + firefox/chrome on a modern website, consider the fact that FF with adblock on a fresh launch showing an empty page can near 200mb, imagine what happens when you need to actually use the computer...)

i forgot to mention i think 128gb is too small for an SSD when considering its lifespan & not having enough empty space for speed/firmware optimizations

 

[immab33tch]

how large images? 1080p video editing?

i've got an i7-2670qm / 8gb ram / gtx570m / ST9750420AS (laptop) & an overclocked 3.6ghz q9550 / 4gb ram / gtx660 / ST1000DM003 (desktop) for testing, i dont 'believe' in the relevance of the performance boost of SSDs just yet, especially on a budget

i even have an overclocked athlonxp-m 2.4ghz / 2gb ram / old hard drive for an actual comparison of a 'slow' computer

it probably doesnt even matter if you're low on ram or reading/writing to page file/scratch disk with an SSD, but you wouldnt run into this unless you're really pushing 8gb ram usage (how? have multiple adobe apps open + over 1gb browser usage? aftereffects caches every frame to ram until there is no more, but you can control the max amount & it may even purge old frames if other apps need it)

a powerful computer is only good for intense rendering, intense math, intense games, & lasting for many years unless it loses driver or OS support

would you buy used? can you find a sandy bridge i7 2600(k) so that you can have a good cpu?

hi well i got burned twice with used processors, i only buy 2nd hand hardwares if i can test it and still has warranty manufacturer warranty not personal warranty and near my area a lot of fraud here ... i cant find brand new of this item though as its phased out by major shops here in our country, but anyway the cheapest i can find is $60 more over my preferred processor .. $60 more for a 2nd hand processor over brandnew so im not sure if its worth it.

Also just want to add that yes i am editing 1080p video as standard for promotional and presentation purposes sometimes its as large as 30 mins.

 

[GhostRyder]

Hi guys what do you think of my budget build? Im going to use it for web development will be using photoshop some slight video editing after effects and premier pro. No gaming, no overclocking.

Heres my list:
CPU - I will be using Intel Core i5-3470 (non K) cause we wont be overclocking = $127
SSD - crucial mx100 128gb for OS and applications = $83
HDD - we have cloud in the office we completely rely on it and external drive so i dont need additional internal drive - $0
GPU - palit storm x oc GTX 750 Ti (this im not sure but i guess it should be fine, right?) = $151
MOBO - asrock B75M-DGS since we wont be overclocking, only 1 internal drive sata 6gbps, usb 3.0 for external drive and 1 dedicated GPU no SLI, you think its a perfect mobo? Any thoughts on this? = $51
RAM - gskill Ripjaws 2x4gb cl7 for $71 the mobo only support 2 slot i wanted to max it to 16gb but i cant find compatible memory module on motherboard list, can you guys help?
CPU Cooler - since no overclocking and office is airconditioned i will be using the stack heatsink and instead buy a reliable case fan like enermax, what do you think? budget = $23
PSU = corsair CS650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular = $103 im thinking of getting cs550m which is $10 less but im afraid of getting short in power
Casing - Corsair Carbide 200R i dont need fancy cause no one will see it anyway cause its under my desk = $69

Total cost: $678

So guys any thoughts, violent reaction? im from Philippines so its kinda hard to find some hardwares.

thanks in advance.

Your a little all over on the parts (Not trying to be mean or sounds mean I just think you can move your budget around for better performance).

1: That is a bit expensive for a GTX 750ti. You might look for something like an R9 270X which can be had for the same price and will run circles around it (well your not gaming so it depends but both GPU manufacturers can boost Adobe performance. But either way I would not pay 150 for a 750ti)
2: Your PSU is a bit overkill. Even if you get something like a GTX 970, R9280X, etc for this build you really only need a decent 500Watt PSU. I would get a bronze-gold rated 500watt PSU that would be cheaper than the current one you have.
3: I would say since your editing to invest in an i7 (If you can move some parts of your budget around). Would be more beneficial in the long run than a higher GPU and PSU.

There are some others things to consider but those are the major things I saw.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

Your a little all over on the parts (Not trying to be mean or sounds mean I just think you can move your budget around for better performance).
...

Again. Phillipines.

 

[GhostRyder]

Again. Phillipines.

I saw that, still a 650watt PSU for that build was a bit much and could be better managed for performance all around. I am sure there are smaller ones around for a better price.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

can you believe it this kit costs $198 i think i'll live with just 8gb what do you think?

I just like to eliminate having to use the swap file, especially on a SSD. (even though they can take it) I will say again that even if they are not listed as compatible, I would expect RAM from any of the well know memory makers to work. If 16 GB kits are that expensive there, then they are most likely not worth it.

but anyway thanks for the tip on PSU can you suggest a cheaper that my current?

You mention the CS550M and CS650M. There's also a CS450M that would be better than the 650 watt PSU, but still oversize. I don't know what brand(s) to recommend, because I don't know what's available to you. You can consult this PSU database to find out who actually makes the different PSU's and it shows review results as well. 80+ Bronze or Gold certified.

 

[immab33tch]

heres what i found cheaper all of them are in the same price $118 16gb 2x8gb kit but im confused on which one to use i check if they are compatible with my motherboard but im not sure which of them to choose

F3-1600C9D-16GAR
- http://gskill.com/en/product/f3-1600c9d-16gar

F3-1600C10D-16GAO
- http://gskill.com/en/product/f3-1600c10d-16gao

F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL
- http://gskill.com/en/product/f3-12800cl10d-16gbxl

i dont their difference or i just dont understand lol heres the screenshot

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

Don't bother with 16GB on that budget. Get a 2x4 Kit.

As I said before, get CAS9 if it's 1600MHz. The SPD Speed is irrelevant as you can set it to 1600 in BIOS.

 

[immab33tch]

Don't bother with 16GB on that budget. Get a 2x4 Kit.

As I said before, get CAS9 if it's 1600MHz. The SPD Speed is irrelevant as you can set it to 1600 in BIOS.

oh yeah thanks for the tip, ill probably just spend it on much higher cpu then

 

[Schmuckley]

Did that really say 1600 CAS 10? Pardon me while i hurl
1600Mhz should be CAS 6-7
Bottom line:build the PC around the i5 you can get for $127