Need a new Internal HDD for lenovo G500

[himendra]

hello guys,

My friend here is going to buy a new HDD for his lenovo G500 laptop, the last HDD has crashed just a few days back,

the laptop specs are-
i5 4th gen
4gb ram
500 gb hdd (that crashed)
2gb graphic card AMD 8750

can you please suggest any specific HDD, like what Brand? what RPM? coz we dont know how these things matter, but we know that they do.

i heard hitachi is more reliable that WD,

please help

 

[Caring1]

Does it matter about the capacity, will he be storing a lot of data, movies, pictures etc?
I would suggest an SSD for faster access times and boot up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360
or a regular hard drive that is slightly faster than stock rpm's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236873

 

[himendra]

Does it matter about the capacity, will he be storing a lot of data, movies, pictures etc?
I would suggest an SSD for faster access times and boot up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360

mmmmm the problem with ssd is it a bit more expensive, and upto 1 TB my friend can buy. I need you pro guys to tell me whether a hdd is compatble with the g500 laptop or not. will a 7200 RPM hdd work fine with this laptop?? coz the last hdd was 5400 rpm? and what brand i should get?

thanks

 

[Caring1]

Yes a 1Tb drive will fit and a 7200rpm drive will operate as it should, just ensure the drive that came out is 9mm thick and not a thin 7.5mm drive or the choices are limited.
see the second link in my above post for a 500Gb drive @ 7200rpm.

 

[himendra]

Yes a 1Tb drive will fit and a 7200rpm drive will operate as it should, just ensure the drive that came out is 9mm thick and not a thin 7.5mm drive or the choices are limited.
see the second link in my above post for a 500Gb drive @ 7200rpm.

ok, so 7200rpm will work fine,
but hey, the link that you gave for the WD black hdd, it has a 7mm height, (this is its thicness right?)

 

[Caring1]

Yes, new slim drives are thinner to fit into thin and light laptops, but will also fit in older SATA laptops.

 

[himendra]

Yes, new slim drives are thinner to fit into thin and light laptops, but will also fit in older SATA laptops.

i think i misunderstood, you mean to say that thinner drives like 7-7.5 mm will also fit perfectly in the g500 laptop???

 

[Caring1]

Yes.

 

[Nasgul]

Few things to consider going from a 5400 rpm to 7200 rpm, the drive will use more watts, makes more noise and get hotter. And for a reliable mechanical hard drive? I'd highly suggest a Western Digital, I only trust WD drives, have had several other brands and they all have failed and I'm yet to have a WD HDD fail.

A logical option would be $165 for a 512GB SSD and a cheap 1TB USB 3.0 ($59) hard drive for storage. A SSD would make a night and day difference, reason why I'm switching to SSD for all my laptops and desktop, and for storage I use a 128GB Corsair Slider USB 3.0 flash drive ($29.99). Don't need much.

 

[micropage7]

if you are not sure what hdd, just put the same brand and you are done, now most 1 terabyte, so you are fine running 1 TB HDD on that

 

[Jetster]

Install any brand 7200 SATA 2.5 Drive and be done. Any size you want

How are going to install the OS?

That black drive is fine http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236873

 

[Bill_Bright]

Install any brand 7200 SATA 2.5 Drive and be done. Any size you want

I have to agree with Nasgul and when it comes to notebooks, you need to be more careful about the devices you put in notebooks.

As Nasgul correctly noted, a 7200RPM drive will consume more power - that is, it will run down the battery faster which can be a critical concern for many notebook users who actually use their notebooks as "portable" devices.

As Nasgul also correctly noted, because the motors spin faster, 7200RPM drives tend to generate more heat and since notebooks inherently have greater challenges expelling heat, this can also be an issue.

So I don't agree with installing any 7200 drive and be done.

According the specs for that notebook, it came with a 5400RPM drive so I recommend replacing it with another 5400RPM (or SSD, if the budget allows).

 

[himendra]

hey guys, thanks for replying, ok so 7200 rpm will be consuming more power, hmm makes sense. Also about buying the same brands hdd- the laptop is from lenovo, but buying a hdd from lenovo is so costly, the service centre guys told that 7000rs. is the cost of an hdd from lenovo, man thats really strange.

we have already ordered a 5200 rpm hdd 500 gb (hitachi).

We have just one Western Digital Hdd, i.e external portable one. It works fine. I saw some stats online that showed Hitachi Hdds more reliable than WD, so went for this one,
lets see how this one works,

thank you for your suggestions good friends

regards

 

[Bill_Bright]

Also about buying the same brands hdd- the laptop is from lenovo, but buying a hdd from lenovo is so costly

No, they meant same brand HD, not from the notebook maker. Lenovo doesn't make HDs for one so it would be like buying a replacement Michelin tire from the Volkswagen dealer when you can buy the same tire for much less at Wal-mart or even at the Michelin dealer.

we have already ordered a 5200 rpm hdd 500 gb (hitachi).

As long as it is the right physical size (2.5 inch, for example) and same interface (SATA) you should be fine.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I'd go with this.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=WD+black+750gb&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=

Used one to replace a 500GB WD Blue in a neighbor's laptop that crashed, and it's still going strong.

That's a very good price and very good outfit to buy from. The comment on higher speed and more heat is a bit misleading really. It should handle it fine provided the laptop's CPU cooler is working normally and not clogged with dust.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I'd go with this.

They have already ordered one.

The comment on higher speed and more heat is a bit misleading really.

No it's not. It is a solid fact. Now whether those facts impact that particular notebook in a significant matter, we won't know because we cannot assume we know exactly how that notebook behaves or how the user uses it, including the ambient environments it will be used in.

It is also a fact that notebook makers intentionally use lower speed drives in many of their notebooks for the very reasons stated above.

It is also not misleading to say that higher speed fans will shorten battery run time as that is a fact too.

So frankly, I think it is misleading to suggest those factors don't come into play here.

 

[RejZoR]

Buy a hybrid drive. Or if you don't need capacity, SSD. Laptops are really the only thing that benefits SSD's the most...

 

[Bill_Bright]

Laptops are really the only thing that benefits SSD's the most...

What?

That's totally wrong and frankly, makes no sense whatsoever.

PCs are inherently, as a group, much faster than notebooks so it makes no sense at all to keep bottlenecking them with slow hard drives (or even hybrid drives). For that reason, more and more data centers and servers are using SSDs. More and more PCs are coming with SSDs so disk access can keep up with PC CPUs which typically do NOT throttle down in performance due to heat or low battery.

SSDs in a PC consume less power, generate less heat, and make no noise or vibrations.

My guess is you have never used a PC with SSDs. If you had, you would never say that.

Setting aside 10 - 15 second boot times, SSDs significantly improve over all computer, OS, gaming, and networking performance - no ifs, ands or butts.

Yes, SSDs cost more but that is true whether they go in a PC, server, or notebook.

 

[RejZoR]

WHAAAAAT!? Why the hell people act surprised like I'm suggetsing to stuff viagra inside USB 3.0 port just because they are of the same color.

Generated vibrations and heat, shock resistance, power consumption, speed, these are totally not things the most important in laptops apparently.

In PC you can hang HDD on freaking stockings to negate vibrations, no such luxury in crammed laptops. When you have a scrubbing drive under your hands while typing it's not really comfortable. SSD's also don't generate much heat so keyboard on laptop isn't burning hot. Something not even relevant on PC. Shocks and vibrations, how often do you even move PC compared to laptop? And lastly, laptops are already crippled power wise and using crappy 5400 RPM drives cripples them even further. If SSD makes any sense it's in mobile devices, not desktops. You benefit from them as well but nowhere near as much (and in as many aspects) as in mobile devices. Been using SSD since Acer Aspire One (proper SSD, not that crappy integrated eMMC) so I kinda know what I'm talking about from practical usage and not just theory...

 

[Bill_Bright]

I kinda know what I'm talking about from practical usage and not just theory...

You may know what you are talking about when it comes to using SSDs in notebooks but you clearly don't when it comes to PCs! You said, "Laptops are really the only thing that benefits SSD's the most...". That is simply wrong! Period. And you can click on the link in my sig to see if I might have some practical experience when it comes to all sorts of IT hardware.

And for the record, I never said anything about "shocks". When I referred to vibrations, I was not talking about vibrations affecting the drives, but drive vibrations causing noise which often reverberates through PC cases which in many scenarios, can be very objectionable.

Also for record, I NEVER said SSDs were not good in notebooks as your reply above suggests. In fact, SSDs are great in notebooks BECAUSE they don't generate as much heat or consume as much power or space as HDDs. But that, IN NO WAY suggest they are not also great in PCs as your claim implies.

 

[RejZoR]

Except I also have it in PC. And I don't have it for boot drive because that is total absolute waste of SSD potential. I'm using SSD for hybrid system that works across entire HDD content. Touche.

 

[Bill_Bright]

And I don't have it for boot drive because that is total absolute waste of SSD potential.

This is what I mean by you don't understand PCs. Your boot drive has your OS. And unless you moved them from the defaults, the boot drive also has the Page File (ideally suited for SSDs), your temp files, all the OS files, documents, applications and more. And accessing all those benefit greatly being on an SSD - significantly improving overall system performance.

This is exactly why most users with any understanding of PCs who are on a budget will put a small SSD as the boot drive and a large HD as their "secondary" drive.

If you have it the other way around, then I am sorry, but you have it backwards. So your touché is just a miss.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

They have already ordered one.
No it's not. It is a solid fact. Now whether those facts impact that particular notebook in a significant matter, we won't know because we cannot assume we know exactly how that notebook behaves or how the user uses it, including the ambient environments it will be used in.

It is also a fact that notebook makers intentionally use lower speed drives in many of their notebooks for the very reasons stated above.

It is also not misleading to say that higher speed fans will shorten battery run time as that is a fact too.

So frankly, I think it is misleading to suggest those factors don't come into play here.

I posted the link as much if not more to show the price B&H carries it for. It's a great deal.

And the reason I say the heat comment is misleading is the LT we put one in is mediocre at best for ventilation, and it's holding up fine. HDDs vary in their heat output, a lot of well built 7200s really don't get hot, just slightly warm.

Other than that, it comes down to common sense how you use and maintain your LT, regardless of what drive it has.

Also, LT manufacturers tend to put 5400s in largely for hitting price points. You start adding up parts that are $20 cheaper here and there, and it can mean a price lower enough to catch people's eyes. Most only tend to look at CPU, GPU, and RAM and HDD capacity.

 

[Bill_Bright]

And the reason I say the heat comment is misleading is the LT we put one in is mediocre at best for ventilation, and it's holding up fine.

You cannot use one example and apply it to ALL notebooks. Ever since the beginning of portables, heat has been a problem. And it has done nothing but get worse because notebook makers keep packing in more power, but keep making the cases smaller. And smaller cases support less capable cooling options.

Even tower PCs can be challenged to properly cool the parts inside so any advantage you can get to keep temps in check in the small confines of a notebook case is a good thing. Otherwise, the CPU will constantly be toggled down in speed - not a good thing.

Also, LT manufacturers tend to put 5400s in largely for hitting price points.

No they don't. They do it because they don't eat up the battery as fast and for less heat generation. If what you said were true, PC makers would do the same thing and most, except for some entry level systems use 7200RPM.

To hit price points on their budget notebooks, they may use a 5400RPM instead of an SSD.

 

[tabascosauz]

We have just one Western Digital Hdd, i.e external portable one. It works fine. I saw some stats online that showed Hitachi Hdds more reliable than WD, so went for this one,
lets see how this one works,

First of all, I know which "stats" you're talking about, and that was done a long time ago. Second of all, Hitachi (HGST) in the hard drive market is owned by WD, and the "old Hitachi" is long gone as of 2012. Thirdly, these HDDs don't have a "reliability" advantage over each other; they're all HDDs and some of the batch will be crappy and some of the batch will be stellar.

I highly recommends that your friend jump on the SSD boat as soon as he can. If there aren't 2 hard drive bays in his laptop, then he'll just have to replace when the time comes. HDDs in laptops are bad news because of the constant sleep / hibernation / wake cycles, as well as bumping the laptop around, both of which are bad for the drives. My first laptop (Asus K55A) came with a plain regular 7mm Seagate Momentus XT; failed in 1.5 years of use. Now that laptop has a Crucial MX100 512GB and it's running faster and smoother than ever. My next laptop (Inspiron 14 7000) came with a 5mm Seagate Momentus Thin; failed after 10 months and now that laptop has a 128GB Sandisk SSD, faster and more reliable than ever.

Lenovo doesn't make HDs for one so it would be like buying a replacement Michelin tire from the Volkswagen dealer

I love this because I know it to be true; a cheap Michelin replacement tire for my jetta city at the local VW dealer costs 2 x a fortune.