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  1. Justin123

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    I had 2 780's before and decided to change for the extra gb and those were reference and I don't even think those were as loud/hot

    My case is big enough and even if it is hot/cold in my room.
    I put a fan on my legs since it is really hot.

    I have opened BF4 and lowered the fan to where it SHOULD be around 40-50% and it gets super hot and put it back to auto it spikes up to like 80% to cool it down

    It doesn't do it for ALL games just more demanding games like BF4, Titanfall, Watchdogs and all that. I don't get it from LOL

    specs are:
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    mining(I just tested it, I don't do it)
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    Crossfire 1 monitor
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    1 monitor 1 card
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    3 monitors 1 card
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    fully maxed crossfire+3 monitors
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    IMO you should have hung on for the GTX880s from Nvidia. Well, Theres no way to really break it to ya, 290s do run run quite hot and guzzle more power from mains.

    Not a lot you can really do apart from make sure you got proper airflow inside your case and that ambient temps aint too hot. 290X's TDP is around 300w while the 780s were around 250w. watercooling is the only way to go for 290Xs
     
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    Thanks for telling someone to wait for a card that hasn't been made yet, that we have no performance, heat, or power consumption tests from. Now let me try it.


    You should wait for the Nvidia GTXover9000!!! Cause its so much better, hold on while I choke on the Nvidia ding dong!!!

    And now back to the OP> Up to 95C is fine for this card, mining places a unrealistic demand on the card, in gaming turn your fans down to where you are comfortable and see if it thermally throttles or reaches over 90C, if it doesn't I wouldn't worry. If you have more concerns then perhaps purchasing a better cooler for the card will help.
     
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    The only better cooler I heard of is watercooling besides this fan and I am not going to spend that much money.
    Rather just wait for new cards.
     
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    Its made, its just not been released yet - All going to plan the 880s should be released next month and be less power hungry than a 780 (or 780Ti) while offering roughly about the same performance if not more. Its not as if the 880s are 6-10 months away.

    Unless you think you know better then all the info thats been released about the 880s? In which case, what are your sources?

    OP had 2 780s, their not exactly bad or obsolete cards though the 3GB frame buffer would definitely be a limiting factor given his triple monitor set up. Hell, Ive got 2 680s and im still waiting on 880s.
     
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    what do you mean SHOULD be? are these reference designs? are you capping your framerate?
     
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    it says t he design right in the title of the thread.........?
     
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    It's not that obvious. It's very possible the 780s with the reference design cooled better because the reference design throws the heat the GPU makes out the back of the case through a vent on the GPU expansion slot bracket. The issue with the Tri X and every other aftermarket design is that they don't get rid of the heat, they circulate it in the case with the expectation that your airflow going by your GPUs is good.

    It's entirely possible that even though you have a lot of fans, how the air moves in the case might not be conducive to cooling your GPUs.

    I should add that I've found my reference 6870 to cool better under heavy overclocking than my MSI TwinFrozr does, I suspect for this very reason, that the reference design removes heat better and faster at the expense of noise.
     
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    http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/nvidia-to-launch-geforce-gtx-880-in-september.203661/

    "Paper launch" "In time for 2014 Holiday sales" So actual hardware availability around early December, let retailers clear out stock with black friday/cyber monday deals and then restock with new cards.
     
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    so a sapphire tri-x? cuz you mentioned crossfire with no x, it's hard to tell if you mean triple cards or the tri-x

    ok so since it's not reference... i'm assuming the big fans are sucking up the heat from the back of the bottom card

    ironically, reference coolers dont necessarily suck up that same amount of heat since their fan is placed before the gpu & vrms
     
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    Considering Nvidia's epic launch prices? Still cheaper to buy 290X cards and better coolers, more pixel pushing power for less money.
     
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    If it's two GPUs with triple fans each, you should look at improving your case's air-flow to exhaust the heat generated by those cards a little quicker.

    Post a picture of the two GPUs inside of the case please. Include pictures of the existing fans if you can.

    Also,.....list your system's specs in your user control panel so we know a little more about what case and power supply you're using.
     
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    Definitely see how the new GTX 880's cards turn out and then go from there, frankly you shouldn't have to put of with this heat noise nonsense regardless, especially when reference cards gave you less grief in those areas before hand.

    Wait, then maybe you can dump those 290's.
     
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    This issue is very simple to fix. Download the Sapphire Trixx application ( the latest one ) https://www.sapphireselectclub.com/ssc/TriXX/ and install it. Run the program.

    Set either a custom or manual fan profile to your liking. Make sure the 'save fan settings with profile' is ticked in settings. Also make sure the setting to 'apply clocks on boot' is also ticked. Try setting the fans at 60%.

    That's it, you won't have these massive fan spikes anymore. Problem solved.
     
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    The problem you are having is pointing to the fact that you are loading up the cards which vent air out into the case on top of each other and while gaming the fans are required to spin up to cool off that much heat. If you were using reference 780's as stated before you were venting the air out the back of the case instead of pushing the air out the sides into the case.

    The best option with your current setup would probably be to adjust your fan flow to either vent some extra flow from the side if you can or try to maneuver your fans to push the excessive heat from the GPU's out the back.

    But of course this still all depends on your system.
     
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    Isn't the best but if you saw it before you would think this is the best thing you have ever seen.
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    I found out that these required a bigger PSU so it is now a http://raidmax.com/psu/rx_1000ae.html
    no corsair, sorry but the 750 was extremely loud and didn't really want to spend tons more on a PSU I didn't expect to need....
    case: http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/95-phantom-410-mid-tower-case
     
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    This. :pimp:

    Justin doesn't game that much really anyway..:roll:
     
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    There is a fan blank on the side panel for a 120mm fan. Put a high flow, low noise fan on the side panel blowing air towards those GPUs. Add a second fan to the front of your case blowing in towards them as well.

    My fan formula is that any fan on the front, bottom, or side is blowing air into the case. And any fan mounted to the top or rear is exhausting air from the case. This will result in better case airflow and a better environment for your GPUs to operate in.
     
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    Man what's with this place lately. Someone asks for help, and 2/3 of the thread starts out with arguments over some other product that doesn't even exist yet.

    Justin, having owned and used Tri-X card for some testing earlier this year, I know a few things about them.

    A) When the memory spikes to 1300 for web browsing and videos, you'll see the temperature creep up anywhere from 10 to 20 degrees. A custom fan profile will not do much for these mixed clocks and idle temperatures - and by idle I mean the Powerplay 2D clocks of 300/150. If you can get the idling and browsing temperature anywhere from 35-55 then you're doing ok.
    B) A fan profile WILL do a lot for 3D clocks and 3D applications. Afterburner allows you to set a nice fan curve. I'd suggest 40% at 50c, 50% at 55c, 60% at 60c, 65% at 65c, 70% at 70c and then finally 80% at 75c and upwards.
    C) Spacing between the cards is important, hopefully that's obvious.
    D) Anything inhibiting the intake of air by the fans, such as a sound card will limit the cooling.
    E) Not enough exhaust from the case will attribute to the higher ambient temperatures.

    But the number one thing that you can do to reduce temperatures, is undervolt. If you're running the 1000/1300 clocks, then you can go down to -62 in Afterburner, which equates to 0.922 idle voltage. If you're happy with your performance in programs, then you can go further down by reducing the clocks to 947/1250 at -69 undervolt.


    For an additional measure, you can try using 14.4 drivers which for some users ran a bit cooler than the newer versions.
     
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    I'm just going to put up with it until I get newer cards^^^

    I did expect them to be completely silent though when I bought them because of the fans...
     
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    Why don't you try my suggestion(S), particularly concerning undervolting. It takes about five minutes.

    There's no way you'd get six 75mm fans to be silent and produce ideal cooling. If you want to do that, and can't afford liquid cooling, try getting two 120mm fans to replace the Sapphire fan shroud?
    They'll definitely run quiet in contrast to the stock ones and produce the same results if not better.
     
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    Liquid done right for that setup is close to $650. But would be impressively quiet and efficient.

    Moving more air through the case, and having vents in the side by the cards would help a lot too.
     
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    No offense, but for any high-end card I think that it is not a realistic expectation for both the GPU and the case to both be silent. Something has to move a decent amount of heat or it's going to throttle. At least on the reference design, with poor case airflow, it could blow air out the back of the case and prevent recycling the air.
     
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    They would operate quieter if they were cooler. (because their fan speeds would be lower)
    Installing more quality fans inside the case, (properly) would make it so.

    Here is a pair of GTX-680s in SLI inside of a Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra Case.

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    As you can see, I have some extra Enermax TB Silence fans installed.
    They are quiet and have decent airflow.
    Cougar Vortex PWM fans are quieter and have even better airflow.
    The case already had some 140mm fans in it.
    There is also a 200mm side panel fan blowing air in from the outside, right onto the GPUs.
    With good airflow, they stay nice and cool and it's not that expensive or hard to do.
     
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