• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Alleged Apple Mixed Reality Headset Material Cost Leaks Out

T0@st

News Editor
Staff member
Joined
Mar 7, 2023
Messages
2,077 (4.60/day)
Location
South East, UK
Self-described mixed reality nerd, Brad Lynch, has tweeted out several interesting details about Apple's yet-to-be announced VR/AR headset. He has managed to compile information from several sources - mostly reports produced by hardware analysts based in China. His summation of the leaked info states: "The Apple HMD's Bill of Materials (BoM) cost to be about $1500-1600 (USD). This is about double the reported BoM for the (Meta) Quest Pro (which was 800 dollars including the controllers and charging pad)."

Minsheng Electronics's article suggests that 400,000 - 500,000 headset units are set for production in the second half of this year. An operating system with the codename "rOS" is reportedly clashing with Apple's traditional iOS mobile platform, but the author does not provide further information about these compatibility issues. The headset's operating system is supposedly capable of supporting a wide range of games, productivity applications and methods of video communication.




Minsheng's breakdown of Apple's bill of materials for the mixed reality device is also corroborated in part by a similar report, published by Wellsenn XR - although their calculations point to a total of $1509. A rough estimate of the former's list is as follows (via translation):
  • Chipset: two pieces in total, $120 -140
  • Micro OLED screens: $280-320
  • Camera (will carry 14): $160
  • Optical-mechanical lens system and assembly: $70-80
  • Rearview mirror: $13-15
  • Pupillary distance adjustment module: $30-35
  • 3D sensor part: $80-90
  • Metal middle frame: $95
  • Appearance parts: $15-20
  • External battery pack: $22 -25
  • Microphone: $21-22, Speakers: $16-18
  • PCB+FPC: $40-45
  • RAM+ROM storage part: $40-45
  • Other chipsets such as Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, PMIC, etc. total: $60-70
  • Total cooling module: $70
  • Other auxiliary accessories: $30-40
  • Assembly: $110-120

XR Daily News points out that a third Chinese report has produced a lower estimated BoM - somewhere around $1300, but it is possible that shipping costs were not taken into account. Industry tipsters are predicting that Apple will be targeting a premium market (as is the norm), by setting an MSRP of $3000 - pointing to a potential (near to) 100 percent gross profit margin per unit sold, if the latest material cost rumors are accurate.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site | Source
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2016
Messages
2,930 (1.02/day)
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard ASRock X670E Taichi
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 Chromax
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 4090 Trio
Storage Too much
Display(s) Acer Predator XB3 27" 240 Hz
Case Thermaltake Core X9
Audio Device(s) Topping DX5, DCA Aeon II
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Titanium 850w
Mouse G305
Keyboard Wooting HE60
VR HMD Valve Index
Software Win 10
$3,000 likely means they are targeting business users. At that price tag most regular folk simply won't be able to afford it. Even as a VR enthusiast myself, I'd have a hard time justifying that much for a HMD. Particularly one that is starting from scratch when it comes to it's app ecosystem.
 
Joined
Nov 18, 2010
Messages
7,163 (1.45/day)
Location
Rīga, Latvia
System Name HELLSTAR
Processor AMD RYZEN 9 5950X
Motherboard ASUS Strix X570-E
Cooling 2x 360 + 280 rads. 3x Gentle Typhoons, 3x Phanteks T30, 2x TT T140 . EK-Quantum Momentum Monoblock.
Memory 4x8GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB F4-4133C19D-16GTZR 14-16-12-30-44
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX 7900XTX + under waterblock through Kryosheet
Storage Optane 900P[W11] + WD BLACK SN850X 4TB + 750 EVO 500GB + 1TB 980PRO[FEDORA]
Display(s) Philips PHL BDM3270 + Acer XV242Y
Case Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow V3 - Yellow Switch
Software FEDORA 40
Those prices are definitely waaaaay off.

I call this BS.
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
8,122 (3.18/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
Looks like these will be focused for the Medical industry and maybe Mining.
 
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,005 (2.70/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
Those prices are definitely waaaaay off.

I call this BS.

these are the prices you and me would get quotes for building a one unit prototype. That can't possible be real.
 
Joined
Dec 26, 2006
Messages
3,580 (0.56/day)
Location
Northern Ontario Canada
Processor Ryzen 5700x
Motherboard Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g
Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm
Memory Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A)
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair LPX
Display(s) LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k)
Case Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window)
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1220-VB
Power Supply SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52
Mouse Mionix Naos Pro
Keyboard Corsair Strafe with browns
Software W10 22H2 Pro x64
"The Apple HMD's Bill of Materials (BoM) cost to be about $1500-1600 (USD)..................so 3x for apple markup/profits??

That assembly price though.........................crazy low
 
Joined
Nov 18, 2010
Messages
7,163 (1.45/day)
Location
Rīga, Latvia
System Name HELLSTAR
Processor AMD RYZEN 9 5950X
Motherboard ASUS Strix X570-E
Cooling 2x 360 + 280 rads. 3x Gentle Typhoons, 3x Phanteks T30, 2x TT T140 . EK-Quantum Momentum Monoblock.
Memory 4x8GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB F4-4133C19D-16GTZR 14-16-12-30-44
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX 7900XTX + under waterblock through Kryosheet
Storage Optane 900P[W11] + WD BLACK SN850X 4TB + 750 EVO 500GB + 1TB 980PRO[FEDORA]
Display(s) Philips PHL BDM3270 + Acer XV242Y
Case Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow V3 - Yellow Switch
Software FEDORA 40
these are the prices you and me would get quotes for building a one unit prototype. That can't possible be real.

Considering I work in the field, I see some bullshit numbers even if I buy them in single amount like a private person with shipping.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2021
Messages
2,321 (2.15/day)
$3,000 likely means they are targeting business users

But what business user would buy a form over function "premium" quality HMD/AR headset? Businesses need feature rich and rugged equipment, not some stylish toy with a closed of ecosystem.

I don't see any avenue for this product to be a success, business or consumer. All the renders that made news - like this one - look like a ski mask of some sort, who's going to wear that on a day to day basis?
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2014
Messages
1,880 (0.53/day)
Location
Calabash, NC
System Name The Captain (2.0)
Processor Ryzen 7 7700X
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E AORUS Master
Cooling 280mm Arctic Liquid Freezer II, 4x Be Quiet! 140mm Silent Wings 4 (1x exhaust 3x intake)
Memory 32GB (2x16) G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo (6000Mhz)
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3070 SUPRIM X
Storage 1x Crucial MX500 500GB SSD; 1x Crucial MX500 500GB M.2 SSD; 1x WD Blue HDD, 1x Crucial P5 Plus
Display(s) Aorus CV27F 27" 1080p 165Hz
Case Phanteks Evolv X (Anthracite Gray)
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2021) 1000W 80-Plus Gold
Mouse Varies based on mood/task; is currently Razer Basilisk V3 Pro or Razer Cobra Pro
Keyboard Varies based on mood; currently Razer Blackwidow V4 75% and Hyper X Alloy 65
But what business user would buy a form over function "premium" quality HMD/AR headset? Businesses need feature rich and rugged equipment, not some stylish toy with a closed of ecosystem.

I don't see any avenue for this product to be a success, business or consumer. All the renders that made news - like this one - look like a ski mask of some sort, who's going to wear that on a day to day basis?

I'd just like to add that this headset also looks uncomfortable as all hell. I mean, even my $30 pair of magnifying goggles (used for model building and such) have more padding around the headband than this "premium" VR headset does!
 
Joined
Jan 11, 2022
Messages
530 (0.61/day)
the very expensive version of the crap sitting in cupboards Samsung was selling a couple of years ago.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2016
Messages
2,930 (1.02/day)
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard ASRock X670E Taichi
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 Chromax
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 4090 Trio
Storage Too much
Display(s) Acer Predator XB3 27" 240 Hz
Case Thermaltake Core X9
Audio Device(s) Topping DX5, DCA Aeon II
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Titanium 850w
Mouse G305
Keyboard Wooting HE60
VR HMD Valve Index
Software Win 10
But what business user would buy a form over function "premium" quality HMD/AR headset? Businesses need feature rich and rugged equipment, not some stylish toy with a closed of ecosystem.

I don't see any avenue for this product to be a success, business or consumer. All the renders that made news - like this one - look like a ski mask of some sort, who's going to wear that on a day to day basis?

It might appeal to a lot of companies in the business of creating art / 3D modeling. Kind of the same audience apple tends to appeal to. You are right though, would be hard to justify for most businesses assuming it really is form over function. Really we'll have to wait and see how good it is at launch. They priced it to the point where it really does have to innovate to be worth it.
 
Joined
Feb 26, 2016
Messages
548 (0.18/day)
Location
Texas
System Name O-Clock
Processor Intel Core i9-9900K @ 52x/49x 8c8t
Motherboard ASUS Maximus XI Gene
Cooling EK Quantum Velocity C+A, EK Quantum Vector C+A, CE 280, Monsta 280, GTS 280 all w/ A14 IP67
Memory 2x16GB G.Skill TridentZ @3900 MHz CL16
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC Black
Storage Samsung 983 ZET 960GB, 2x WD SN850X 4TB
Display(s) Asus VG259QM
Case Corsair 900D
Audio Device(s) beyerdynamic DT 990 600Ω, Asus SupremeFX Hi-Fi 5.25", Elgato Wave 3
Power Supply EVGA 1600 T2 w/ A14 IP67
Mouse Logitech G403 Wireless (PMW3366)
Keyboard Monsgeek M5W w/ Cherry MX Silent Black RGBs
Software Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Benchmark Scores https://hwbot.org/search/submissions/permalink?userId=92615&cpuId=5773
My guess is it will be 1500$ MSRP, with the build cost being 750-1000$. Ain't no way Apple expects to sell this to normal customers at 3000$, let alone 1500$.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
21,210 (5.98/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V
Motherboard AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370
Cooling beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Fractal Design Define R5
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse XTRFY M42
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W10 x64
But what business user would buy a form over function "premium" quality HMD/AR headset? Businesses need feature rich and rugged equipment, not some stylish toy with a closed of ecosystem.

I don't see any avenue for this product to be a success, business or consumer. All the renders that made news - like this one - look like a ski mask of some sort, who's going to wear that on a day to day basis?
Have you taken a brief a look at what the average person in a suit uses for a phone?

Business users want hardware that does what it says on the tin, and without for example a Facebook login. Business is also not immune to a touch of business-y flair, which Apple products absolutely have.
And this is not the piece of gear you'll find hanging off every desk in the building - this is what's on the board room table in the penthouse, and in select offices.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2021
Messages
2,321 (2.15/day)
And this is not the piece of gear you'll find hanging off every desk in the building - this is what's on the board room table in the penthouse, and in select offices.

For what purpose? I've had iphones from work before, I get it, but an AR headset? I really don't see what the hell they'll be trying to sell. AR will be an interesting technology in the far future but that's not today or within the next couple of years.

I'm basing a lot of this opinion on the designs and renders that leaked out but I just don't see it, the only device I think came close to become a thing was the google glass and even that was more than a decade too early
 
Top