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3870 X2 Reviews

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by EastCoasthandle, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. EastCoasthandle

    EastCoasthandle New Member

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    Reviews in alphabetical order

    Anandtech
    EVGA nForce 780i SLI
    CAT: 8-451-2-080123a
    Vista Ultimate 32-bit

    Chile Hardware
    Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 9600 Black Edition
    Catalyst 8.451.2.080123a
    Vista Ultimate 32-bit

    Computer Base
    Striker Asus Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i) main-board test
    Cat 8-451-2-080123a
    Windows x86 Vista Build 6000

    Driver Heaven
    Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
    Catalyst 8.451 230108
    Vista Ultimate

    Extreme Tech
    Intel D975 XBX (Intel 975X)
    Catalyst 8.2
    Vista Ultimate

    Firing Squad
    ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
    Cat 8.451.2_080123a-058649E
    Vista 64-bit w/Service Pack 1 RC Refresh

    Guru3d
    nVIDIA nForce 680i SLI (eVGA)
    8-451-2-080108a beta
    Vista Business Edition

    Hardware Canucks
    Asus Blitz Extreme (P35)
    Cat 8.451.2-080
    Vista Ultimate x64

    Hexus
    MSI X48 Platinum (X48+ICH9R)
    CATALYST 8.2 beta
    Vista Business, 64-bit, Windows XP SP2 32-bit (X2 and GTX)

    Hot Hardware
    EVGA nForce 680i SLI
    Cat ATI Catalyst Bets v8.451
    Vista Ultimate

    Legit Review
    Gigabyte X38-DQ6
    CATALYST 8.1 driver
    Windows Vista Ultimate

    MadBox PC
    ASUS P5E (Intel X38)
    Catalyst 8-451-2-080121a
    Windows XP Service Pack 2 32bits

    PCPOP
    ASUS Maximus Formula (X38)
    Cat 8.1 (no indication of updated drivers)
    Vista Ultimate 32Bit version 6000

    PC Prospective
    EVGA nForce 680i Motherboard
    AMD Catalyst R680 Beta
    Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

    TechPowerUp
    Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Intel P35
    Catalyst 8.12 v8.451.2
    Windows XP SP2

    Tech Report
    Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6
    Cat 8.451.2-080116a-057935E
    Vista Ultimate x86 Edition

    Tom's Hardware
    Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
    Cat 8-451-2-080108a
    XP??





    Reviews by chipset

    780i
    Anandtech
    uses a EVGA nForce 780i SLI
    CAT: 8-451-2-080123a

    680i
    Computer Base
    using Striker Asus Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i) main-board test
    Cat 8-451-2-080123a

    Guru3d
    using nVIDIA nForce 680i SLI (eVGA)
    CAT: 8-451-2-080108a beta

    Hot Hardware
    using a EVGA nForce 680i SLI
    Catalyst Bets v8.451

    PC Prospective
    EVGA nForce 680i Motherboard
    AMD Catalyst R680 Beta


    P35
    Hardware Canucks
    using Asus Blitz Extreme (P35)
    Cat 8.451.2-080

    TechPowerUp
    using a Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Intel P35
    Catalyst 8.12 v8.451.2


    X38
    Driver Heaven
    using Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)

    Firing Squad
    using ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
    Cat 8.451.2_080123a-058649E

    Legit Review
    Gigabyte X38-DQ6
    CATALYST 8.1 driver
    Windows Vista Ultimate

    MadBox PC
    ASUS P5E (Intel X38)
    Catalyst 8-451-2-080121a
    Windows XP Service Pack 2 32bits

    PCPOP
    using ASUS Maximus Formula (X38)
    Cat 8.1 (no indication of updated drivers)

    Tech Report
    using Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6
    Cat 8.451.2-080116a-057935E

    Tom's Hardware
    using Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
    Cat 8-451-2-080108a


    X48
    Hexus
    MSI X48 Platinum (X48+ICH9R)
    CATALYST 8.2 beta


    790FX
    Chile Hardware
    Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 9600 Black Edition
    Catalyst 8.451.2.080123a


    Places selling them:
    Newegg
    Excaliber PC
    Mwave
    XPC Gear
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2008
  2. mandelore

    mandelore New Member

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    these cards are awesome, w1z's review shows that enuff. apart from a few benchies, the card stomps on NV's offerings in virtually every game/benchmark.

    this looks very promising for upcoming cards.

    Im gonna hold out till at least dx11 cards are out, as for now my meager 2900xt will see me well.

    but what a price!! price/performance this is better than Nvidia *ATM*
  3. DarkMatter New Member

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    Nice list of benchmarks, EastCoast! :rockout: They're pretty much all the ones that I like to check when new hardware comes out, so I have all of them on my favorites, but it's just easier to click on your links than navigating through the tabs, ;). Is there any other reliable site anyway? :laugh:

    About the card. After reading most of the benchmarks I have to say that sadly, it's a big dissapointment for me. Although not as fast as I thought it would be, on performance level it delivers, there isn't any big issues there. But (and a big one for me) 3870 Crossfire is almost as fast, if you OC them to same clocks of course, and 8800GT SLI is a lot faster. So it all comes to how much they cost. Sadly, around here the card costs as much as 2 3870 and searching a bit you can have 2 8800GTs for little more. Anyway that's not an issue, it depends on the country and prices will go down.

    What is the biggest dissapointment is that it consumes a lot more than 3870 Crossfire!!:eek::eek::eek: How can this happen?
    The noise level is unacceptable for me too and seems that the second chip is a bit hot, it's not cooled as well as the other. And I'm not really sure that you can use any aftermarket cooler for this card. I haven't searched the web about this anyway, since I am not interested. I would never buy this card as it is now. If they fix noise levels, power consumption, and heat on the second chip, I will think of it again. Right now for me this card is as useless as 8800Ultra. In favor of the 3870 X2 I have to say that it's with difference the better dual GPU card ever. Sadly, this is because all the others were a waste IMO.

    EDIT: Before replying to this post take into account this is MY opinion. Also that I don't care about 3DMark or QuadCrossfire. I only care about gaming smoothly on acceptable resolutions. Of course right now this card is the fastest one (by a small margin), so I know it's a great value for benhmarking enthusiast, so if you are one of them avoid trying to discuss with me couse we are not looking for the same things.
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  4. EastCoasthandle

    EastCoasthandle New Member

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    I've done a lot of reading this morning so forgive me if I forget anything. A few reviews stand out:

    -Tech Power Up: noting that techincally this is not a PCIe 2.0 video card as thought
    -The Tech Report: discusses X2 vs CF vs GT SLI
    -Driver Heaven: Made notes regarding the lower then average min frame rates from 3 games. They believe it's either because:
    A. driver issue
    B. ATI teams needs to work with developers more often

    -Hardware Canucks: Offers both X2 vs CF and shows that aftermarket cooler does not fit

    We may see yet another driver update called 1.3v
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  5. trog100 New Member

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    or developers need to stop being paid so much for "how its meant to be played" adverts..

    having seen examples of one 3870 card in crossfire mode not even bothering to clock out of 2 d mode and sit there doing absolutely nothings when certain 3d applications are run i now think its the game not the cat drivers..

    this is also the reason why one card runs cooler.. its only half working at best..

    its just like multiple cpu cores.. if the software aint written to use em they dont get used..

    this conclusion is why i aint happy with crossfire.. with one card or with two cards..

    trog
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    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    They are available at the Egg right now. It will be next week for me I think.
  7. EastCoasthandle

    EastCoasthandle New Member

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    updated OP
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    Another place selling them (Canada), but they have OC it to 875/960 so you pay a premium of $540 on top of thier (high) priced regular edition.

    Hope these prices don't reflect what we can expect to pay in Canada, but it's looking that way:mad:
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    now thats an ultra killer!
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    I'm really surprised by how well this card is doing in reviews, even without an "official" driver yet.

    TBH, though, I'm not surprised by how poorly it runs in Crysis, I still think there's something fishy about that, as the Cysis 1.1 patch offered maybe 0-2 FPS increase for ATI cards, and I swear on mine I saw a reduction in IQ at my settings.



    Nice compilation of the reviews ECH! :toast:
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    It's called the "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" bug. It affects all ATI cards.:D
  12. trog100 New Member

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    nicely put... :laugh: :laugh:

    trog
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    dammit! I always knew my 1950's weren't TWIMTBP compliant!

    It's like the year 1999 all over again! :cry:
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    Yea that bug has really been pissing me off lately:shadedshu

    :nutkick:
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    Your definitely not alone there. Heres to hoping it goes away.:toast:
  16. EastCoasthandle

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    Review by CPU

    Driver Heaven
    Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38) Intel QX9770 (3.2Ghz – 1600fsb)
    Catalyst 8.451 230108
    Vista Ultimate

    PCPOP (Chinese)
    ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) Intel QX9770 four core core, 3.2GHz
    Cat 8.1 (no indication of updated drivers)
    Vista Ultimate 32Bit version 6000

    OC-Lab2 (Slovenian)
    Abit IX38 QuadGT Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550@3850MHz (450x8.5)
    Catalyst 8.451 230108
    Windows XP SP2

    Legit Review
    Gigabyte X38-DQ6 Core 2 Quad QX9650
    CATALYST 8.1 driver
    Windows Vista Ultimate


    Anandtech
    EVGA nForce 780i SLI QX9650 @ 3.00GHz
    CAT: 8-451-2-080123a
    Vista Ultimate 32-bit

    Hardware Canucks
    Asus Blitz Extreme (P35) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.5Ghz
    Cat 8.451.2-080
    Vista Ultimate x64

    Hardware.fr (French/français)
    nForce 680i SLI EVGA Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850
    Catalyst 8.1 beta.
    Windows Vista

    Hexus
    ATI benchmark MSI X48 Platinum (X48+ICH9R), Nvidia benchmarkseVGA NF68 (nForce 680i SLI) Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 LGA775 (3.0GHz)
    CATALYST 8.2 beta
    Vista Business, 64-bit, Windows XP SP2 32-bit (X2 and GTX)

    Hot Hardware
    ATI benchmarks Asus P5E3 Deluxe, Nvidia benchmarks EVGA nForce 680i SLI Core 2 Extreme QX6850 (3GHz)
    Cat ATI Catalyst Bets v8.451
    Vista Ultimate

    MadBox PC (Spanish)
    ASUS P5E (Intel X38) Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 (3Ghz - 333x9)
    Catalyst 8-451-2-080121a
    Windows XP Service Pack 2 32bits

    Tom's Hardware
    Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38) Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 (Quad-core 3 GHz)
    Cat 8-451-2-080108a
    XP??

    Computer Base (German/Deutsch) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (overclocked at 3.46 GHz
    Striker Asus Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i) main-board test
    Cat 8-451-2-080123a
    Windows x86 Vista Build 6000


    Extreme Tech
    Intel D975 XBX (Intel 975X) Intel Core 2 Quad QX6800 @ 2.93GHz
    Catalyst 8.2
    Vista Ultimate

    Firing Squad
    ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (X38) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
    Cat 8.451.2_080123a-058649E
    Vista 64-bit w/Service Pack 1 RC Refresh

    Guru3d
    nVIDIA nForce 680i SLI (eVGA) Core 2 Duo X6800 Extreme
    8-451-2-080108a beta
    Vista Business Edition

    PC Prospective
    EVGA nForce 680i Motherboard Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
    AMD Catalyst R680 Beta
    Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

    Tech Report
    ATI benchmarked using Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 Nvidia benchmarked using XFX nForce 680i SLI Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz
    Cat 8.451.2-080116a-057935E
    Vista Ultimate x86 Edition

    Hartware.net (German/Deutsch) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2,93 GHz)
    Intel D975XBX (Intel 975X)
    Catalyst 8.1
    XP Professionell (Service Pack 2)


    TechPowerUp
    Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Intel P35 Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33 GHz
    Catalyst 8.12 v8.451.2
    Windows XP SP2




    Separated from list

    Chile Hardware (Spanish/español) AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition
    Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 9600 Black Edition
    Catalyst 8.451.2.080123a
    Vista Ultimate 32-bit
    NOT SURE OF CPU PERFORMANCE


    Bit-Tech
    ATI Test System Maximus Formula, Nvidia Asus Striker II Formula 780i Q6600 3.0/C2D 6750???
    Cat 8-451-2-080121a
    Windows Vista Ultimate x86
    TESTBED AND POWER CONSUMPTION TEST SHOW DIFFERENT CPU?? :confused:


    Question:
    Is the X2 CPU limited?
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2008
  17. TonyStark

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    Depends on the game, IQ settings, and resolution. You should know better than to ask that EC. :)
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    EastCoasthandle New Member

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    Yeah, I was trying to drum up conversation about the X2. :eek:
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    It is clearly stated in the bit-tech review why a different setup was chose for the power consumption test:

  20. TonyStark

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    oh :toast:


    I found this interesting:


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