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3Mbps Comcast internet enough?

Discussion in 'Networking & Security' started by Sanhime, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Kreij

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    No. But we both posted the same comments and are in agreement.
    "Saturated bandwidth" can affect latency, but the bandwidth itself has nothing to do with the latency unless the bandwidth is so low that it can't accomodate a the packet size of the ping.
    Nothing is so slow it can't facilitate a default ping. Even a 300 baud modem can handle the few bites of a default ping.
     
  2. Sir B. Fannybottom

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    I used 300kbs internet for playing just about everything and I was fine. That includes gaming, torrenting and all that jazz. You'll be fine with 3mbs (better than what I have atm)
     
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    lol just ignore the people who keep saying bandwidth doesnt effect it. i dont know why there here trying to help you with something they dont know about. just dont get the slow speed or you will fkd.
     
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    hasn't the obvious troll become obvious a couple of his posts ago?
     
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    Bandwidth DOES affect (cut-through) latency, but mostly by such small amount, it will not matter.

    Like if you have packets of 64B (+8B preamble) on a 10Mbps upload line, you will have 57.6 µs delay from point A to B.
    A 1518B packet will already be 1.22 ms from A to B.
    Of course the propagation delay will mostly be your limiting factor. Plus you have to count inter packet gap, count the switching delay, queuing delay etc...

    To answer on topic, yes it will be enough.
     
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    I, unfortunately, have a 3mb/s down connection, it's fine for gaming and streaming video. But once some asshole decides to start downloading something its gg, you lose, and that's not even factoring in whether or not they are uploading anything, when that happens, might as well go watch tv or something.
     
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    thats so true. with a 3mb connection if you download or upload something, not even at the same time, just either one then you cant even use the internet. it will just be too slow. fortunately with my 40mb connection i can download at 4.8mb/s and upload at 480kb/s at the same time and still score a 20 or so ping in games and not lag at all when browsing
     
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    Lol please.. XD Latency is the issue with lag most of the time by the way.. Not bandwidth. Unless you're streaming and downloading porn while playing games, his bandwidth is fine. Does anyone actually do that though? I'd have a hell of a time watching videos and playing L4D2, that's for sure..

    Just because you think you have to be able to have uber internet connection, that downloads 50 movies at a time, does not mean you understand bandwidth.. Download and upload speeds are way more than they need to be in regard to gaming now a days.. It's latency you have to worry about mostly..
     
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    actually your wrong. Lol
     
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    Actually you are, stop trolling already. :banghead:
     
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    He's correct, you're wrong.


    The only thing that causes internet lag, is latency. If you run out of bandwidth, your router qeues the packets, causing latency.

    if you have a bad connection, its latency.


    latency is everything. But companies cant sell you lower latency - so they make it about the speed instead.
     
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    yes so you just proved yourself wrong in your own sentence. way to go :roll:
     
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    This thread just made my jaw drop........from complete amazement! You guys are saying that a 3mb connection is good enough for online gaming? Man I don't know.....I had a 15mb line at my old house and I got some serious lag sometimes. It would bounce around from about 8mb-12mb actually.....wasn't a true 15mb line like what comcast stated it was.

    Now....I moved back to portland OR , and I have their "E-Blast" service......which is a true 35mb connection. I have ran about a 1/2 speed tests and I'll be damned.....it stays between 34-35mb pretty much all the time. I was in heaven when I got this connection 6mo ago......and you guys are saying I would only need a 3mb line to play online?
     
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    Never uploaded a pic here before....but I just ran this test. Is this a pretty solid connection as far as cable internet goes?
     

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    Nothing wrong with that
     
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    i kno theyr so dumb right?
     
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    I've played multiplayer FPS games on my laptop tethered to a 4G LTE smartphone with low signal just fine. How about providing some actual proof that a game exceeds 3mb/s bandwidth?

    By the way, some dude in Sweden with a 100Mb connection connecting to one of my TF2 servers in NYC will have a worse time than me on my previous 1Mb/1Mb connection at college in Florida because my LATENCY is lower. The servers were set to use a minimum per-player rate of 100000 bits/s.
     
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    how long have you been a cisco systems engineer? or did the network guru on your COD site tell you all this?
     
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    Yes, I don't know how many times we have to say, the bandwidth doesn't affect online gaming, the latency does.

    I've got a 22Mb/s connect at my office that is absolutely terrible for gaming because the service in the area has horrible pings. I get 22Mb/s download speeds no problem, but pings are just terrible.

    The pings are important, not the bandwidth, games use very little bandwidth. But how long it takes to send each action back and forth is the important part.

    I want to know how he even reads the speed of someone else's connection.
     
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    he uses the console or something probably. his CPU is probably high clocked too that helps with pings too.

    i wish my connection was as awesome as his. I still use carrier pigeons to send and receive my packets. sometimes hulu loads slow.
     
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    I use my phone for my internet connection when gaming and it works fine. I get anywhere from 3 to 5 MBs download and 1.5 to 2 up. 3 on a very good night (in the country). And I play battlefield with 24 players. Upload is what matters.

    Oh and i agree with the ping. I usually see 4 or 5 bars next to the servers, so my ping is doing alright.
     
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    The way you are posting just shouts "Youth". Everything that the others have said about latency is true. 3M connection is fine as long is the latency timings are low. Call of duty servers only download and receive around 10-15KB a second while connected so even if he had small other things going on with the connection he still would do very well in game.

    You may need to take a CCNA class at your local college

    www.networkingboards.com/cisco/Switching_and_Vlans.ppt
     
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    no it will not be enough for your needs. a 3mb connection with Netflix will not get you the HD quality stream. a 3mb connection will be easily saturated with a consumer grade router so your ping will suffer when playing games online. also, if you use any consumer level ISP plan, like Comcast, then a 3mb connection will mean worse ping rate since your packets will get a lower priority than those paying for the more expensive plans.
     
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    I have the 12 Mb connection from Comcast. I actually get 20Mb down and 3 up. Let me know how this works out for you I might change my connection to save money
     
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    Comcast shapes all of their traffic but they don't apply QoS until you get to business class. Business gets priority over residential but that is about it. Most games won't even get close to saturating 3mbps by themselves unless you have downloads going on while you're playing a game.
     

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