670 SLI, 780 or 780 TI

[TheMailMan78]

This is the breakdown.

Spend 260 and get less performance with a 780.
Spend 260 and get more performance with another 670.

Argument A: You get more stability with a single card and better performance in the long run with OC and bios flips.
Fact Check: OC and bios flipping is far more dangerous than SLI to stability. Plus a single 780 no matter what you do is still not faster than two 670's in SLI.

Argument B: You already have a 670 that runs 99% of ports maxed out. A second will give you better performance than ANY single card on the market for less money for years. Also by the time you need a new one the higher end cards in the NEXT generation will be cheaper than buying a 780 today.
Fact Check: SLI runs fine and if it doesn't a single 670 is more than enough for todays games.

So there you have it. Facts.

 

[RCoon]

2GB vs 3GB please read: longevity

I'm done here, no sense in debating with those that will not be debated with.

 

[TheMailMan78]

2GB vs 3GB please read: longevity

I'm done here, no sense in debating with those that will not be debated with.

That's the only advantage that it has. However with todays ports it makes little difference. Maybe in three years when the 780 is outdated and he NEEDS to upgrade that argument will hold up. Right now its flat out bad economics to buy a 780 vs. a second 670.

 

[Chetkigaming]

i think 780 ti not worth it, better find another 670 and wait for something special. Check the titles you wanna play and their SLI compatibility. 780 ti pros is that you can sell it more effectively later than 2x 670. As for me, i`d better go for 780 ti just because i love only some mmo/rts/moba games and i need best quality and performance in it with minimal latency, without any kind of "magic rendering". Games i play, not fully support SLI anyway.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

2GB vs 3GB please read: longevity

I'm done here, no sense in debating with those that will not be debated with.

That's the only advantage that it has. However with todays ports it makes little difference. Maybe in three years when the 780 is outdated and he NEEDS to upgrade that argument will hold up. Right now its flat out bad economics to buy a 780 vs. a second 670.

Uh, TMM, 2 gb is not enough for me. The OP is using a 2560*1440 monitor, which is not much less than my 2560*1600 monitor. For 1440p and above gaming, 2 gb is not enough VRAM. This was during a game of MechWarrior:Online

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Damn it got quiet all of a sudden.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Damn it got quiet all of a sudden.

Come on man. I have people I have to troll at my job as well as TPU. All my responses cannot be instant!

3GB is nice at that resolution I agree. I never said it wasn't but your screen just proved some games use all available RAM. It doesn't necessary mean you NEED to. The extra GB isn't going in make a difference when its still slower than the SLI rig.

And your desktop is gay.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

How can you be so sure that the game used all the RAM it had available, and that it didn't actually need it? It didn't actually use all the RAM available to it.

 

[TheMailMan78]

How can you be so sure that the game used all the RAM it had available, and that it didn't actually need it? It didn't actually use all the RAM available to it.

Because I play with a guy who has a 780 and the same resolution monitor as yours and I get better FPS with a slower CPU and SLI. BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

 

[BarbaricSoul]

your running at 1080p(according to your system specs that is), of course your going to get faster FPS.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I'm not the only one with 670 SLI on TS.........

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I'm not saying the 670 sli will not get higher FPS(when it doesn't run out of VRAM that is). I'm talking about 2gb of VRAM vs 3gb of VRAM on 1440p and higher resolutions.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I'm not saying the 670 sli will not get higher FPS(when it doesn't run out of VRAM that is). I'm talking about 2gb of VRAM vs 3gb of VRAM on 1440p and higher resolutions.

Ill concede that.

But its not likely to happen for a few years. By then a 780 will be useless. If he were buying a card today and didn't already have a 670 I would agree with you. However honestly a 670 is a beast man. In SLI for the budget its unbeatable.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Ill concede that.

But its not likely to happen for a few years. By then a 780 will be useless. If he were buying a card today and didn't already have a 670 I would agree with you. However honestly a 670 is a beast man. In SLI for the budget its unbeatable.

But it is happening now. I've already showed that with my screen shot.

Don't get me wrong either, 670 SLI is beast. But when running 1440 and higher resolution, in todays non-console port games, like MW:O and BF4 for example, the game can and will need more than 2gb of VRAM. If the OP was running 1200p or lower, I would totally agree with what you are saying.

Any way, I'll be back later today to continue this debate.

 

[T9]

Great info -thanks everyone. One major problem with going the 670 sli route though.......you can't really buy them anymore - so that may end up being the deciding factor actually.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Great info -thanks everyone. One major problem with going the 670 sli route though.......you can't really buy them anymore - so that may end up being the deciding factor actually.

And then there is that. lol! Well man the 780 is a sweet card. I wish ya the best of luck with it!

Also you said you play BF4. Come on TeamSpeak with us. A bunch of TPU members play pretty regularly and kick a lot of butt. We are not a formal clan or anything so there is no schedule. Just come on in and play! We have a lot of fun. PLUS we are all computer geeks so you can get the help or industry inside stuff more than you can reading forums.

AND that invitation goes to anyone on TPU. Just don't be a jerk when you come on there and have some thick skin. We joke ALOT.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

SLI is a whole different animal than Crossfire. I ran Crossfire a while back and I agree with you on that. Runs like crap and no they have no fixed the micro stutter AFAIK in Crossfire.

NVIDIA SLI runs like a boss. Honestly I was in the same boat as you a few months ago. Almost IDENTICAL. I went with the more economical route of getting a second 670 and I have ZERO regrets. Most people (not pointing fingers to anyone in this thread) just talk about the issues of SLI but very few have run a SLI setup recently. Its well worth it man.

I run 140FPS everything on Ultra with 4xAA in BF4 and I'm not even overclocked. I'm running everything at stock!

That is probably your max FPS, I doubt its your average.

 

[TheMailMan78]

That is probably your max FPS, I doubt its your average.

Yeah I average over 110. Which is well past the refresh rate. COME AT ME BRO!

 

[cadaveca]

COME AT ME BRO!

Please keep in mind your two 670's run @ like 1200 MHz out-of-the-box. Most don't.

I shall go back under my bridge now. you know, that SLi bridge that shoulda been in your mobo box? I'mma gonna go hide under DAT. Kthxbai.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Please keep in mind your two 670's run @ like 1200 MHz out-of-the-box. Most don't.

I shall go back under my bridge now. Kthxbai.

Its true. I gots the winnings. Doesn't matter at this point OP is funna get a 780! Now we just need him in TS so I can get in dem guts on BF4.

 

[Durvelle27]

I recommend a GTX 780 Ti hands down

 

[FX-GMC]

I recommend a GTX 789 Ti hands down

What are the specs on that baby?

 

[M0rt]

OP, I was in exactly the same spot (GB WF 670 OC as you) until 3 days ago, only my res is 1200p and I had the chance to buy another identical 670 locally for $220.

Here are my threads seeking advice if you want to give em a look. 1 and 2.

Just bought the GB 780 GHZ Sunday night. Figured I'd be able to sell the 780 in roughly a year and take $100 hit (payed $500) vs. taking the same or perhaps a bigger hit on the 670's times 2 (regardless of what you paid for your first 670, it's worth $220-230 now, so you have to factor its depreciation into the equation too), probably dealing with the headache of 2 transactions, and the added difficulty of finding buyers for a less desirable product. The potential inadequacy of the 2GB will probably increase the erosion of the 670's demand and value too, considering where displays are headed and what the next crop of AAA games might require.

So the math became, lose $100 vs $200, have 2 vs. 3GB, and sort out 1 sale vs. 2 with an unfavorable disparity of demand.

That said, my 670 is absolutely mint and up for sale. Drop me a PM if interested.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I would get a 780 or 780Ti. Even with 670s you a still limited to the 2GB memory buffer, and in games like BF4, I use 2800mb Very High 16x AF 4x MSAA at 1920 x 1200

 

[TheMailMan78]

I would get a 780 or 780Ti. Even with 670s you a still limited to the 2GB memory buffer, and in games like BF4, I use 2800mb Very High 16x AF 4x MSAA at 1920 x 1200

And yet Reayth and I still get better FPS.