a GTX 460 1gb or ATI 5850. need help

[Mikee1]

if 5850 was cheaper or equal to 460, i would go for 5850. i like 5850 myself. but its $66 more expensive and i have to wait to save up the extra $66.

460 isnt too far behind a 5850, i dont see why its $66 more expensive ?????

and considering the features like CUDA and physix which 5850 dont have.

 

[n-ster]

i say 5850 is a clear winner in this debate

 

[Perseid]

I've been trying to answer that question myself. You might want to consider this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-gf104-fermi,2684.html

But I have to warn you, the benchmarks might not exactly help you decide. You'll probably get what I mean when you read it.

At the moment I'm leaning towards the 460. It's $80 cheaper for me and has similar performance, judging by that review.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

then buy a 460 i already told you 14 games released use frigging physx just cause its on the box dosent mean the shiny gpy makes physx any better aka software physx dosent use the gpu so thats moot. overclocked the 460 overtakes the 5850 but overclocked 5850 knocks on the gtx 480s backside and easily beats out a stock 5870 which an overclocked 460 cant reach.

buy whatever gpu suits your needs the 460 is a decent card to be sure but then again it dosent even beat out a gtx 275 from last gen and used i see them for $125 give or take on occasion

 

[eidairaman1]

well see thats the thing, not everything is going to overclock the same, some chips will run hotter than others or require more voltage to be at the same clocks etc. Also I wasn't downplaying anyones hardware specifically, I was just stating the consequences of overclocking, yes it is fun but I'd rather spend my time playing video games than wasting it on an unstable piece of hardware. Right now I'd say the 5850 is the best bet for an all around card but to each their own. I might even add since the card has been out this long the quality has increased compared to initial shipments where as the GF board is in its infancy and needs time to get the Quality up.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

it comes down to what you want buy what works for you at the end of the day advice is just words or text and good advice is advice you use compare reviews just dont sit there thinking ill oc the 460 when a 5850 can do the same

and that quadcore is decent but at its stock frequency its still going to hold your gpu back no matter which one you pick 3ghz or more is needed for the gpus to stretch there legs

 

[IronRuler]

A 5850 is about 14% faster stock.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

not to mention in that toms review at lower res the 460 does well but as the resolution goes up the 5850 climbs UP the chart.

 

[eidairaman1]

How much stuff uses the CUDA capability? That to me is not a feature I would be really looking at in a Gaming card, now if it was a Quadro/FireGL i would.

 

[Mikee1]

crazyeyesreaper: what do u mean 460 doesnt even beat out 275?? how can it be slower than 275 when its faster than 5850 when overclocked??????

can u explain it???

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

sorry my bad the 460 is slightly faster but even so i can use the same argument u use for the 460 vs the 5850 for the 275 vs the 460 lol

 

[eidairaman1]

dude the way u keep on arguing the point it seems u really want to go with the 460 so stop blinding yourself and get the 460 and lets close this topic.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

yea the 460 is 5% faster then a gtx 275

 

[IronRuler]

Don't let anyone fool you. The GTX 460 is a great card, but it is overrated. The 5850 is a shade slower than the 5870, which you can't even compare to the GTX 460 because that is 480 territory.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

i will say this use google read reviews

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_460_1_GB/1.html

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/14

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/07/12/nvidia_geforce_gtx_460_review/

 

[Mikee1]

eidairaman1: whats wrong with u ? im still thinking which card to choose. its not like im buying tomarrow. i might go for 5850.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

simply put

460 < 5850

460oc = 5850

460oc < 5850oc

5850 oc > 5870

 

[n-ster]

listen, you pay about 15% more for a card thats 15% faster and cooler... rarely can you buy a better card that scales linearly, its more of an expential curb, 5850 is a better deal

to be safe, 5850oc=5870

 

[erocker]

Hey Mikee1. Do you have a link to the 5850 that you can buy? If it's a reference model or a different model that can utilize voltage adjustment it's the way to go. With just a very small bump in voltage it's very easy to surpass the best cards and very much worth the money.

 

[Mikee1]

n-ster: so u mean from $400 to $466 , the 5850 is only 15% more expensive?

 

[Mikee1]

erocker: http://www.impc.co.nz/products/al_his-5850-1gbd5-v2.html

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

the 5850 is about 14% more expensive and 15% faster

how did i know that? i used google

14% of 466 is 65.24 thus $66 difference

400 * 14% = 456

 

[eidairaman1]

erocker: http://www.impc.co.nz/products/al_his-5850-1gbd5-v2.html

See ur paying for an Import tarriff, also I realize parts in NZ/ Au will always be pricier. Unless if that is Australian/NZ currency. Shoot a Buddy there got a Athlon 64 6400 for the price I could of gotten a Phenom 2 for.

 

[erocker]

erocker: http://www.impc.co.nz/products/al_his-5850-1gbd5-v2.html

Hmm.. well it's not a reference model, but there is still always overclocking headroom. One nice thing I noticed is that it comes with Battlefield Bad Company 2 for free, which is a great game if you don't have it yet and that's $50 bucks right there!

 

[IronRuler]

simply put

460 < 5850

460oc = 5850

460oc < 5850oc

5850 oc > 5870

That isn't accurate at all. Where are you located Mike?