A Thread dedicated to issues with my PC

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

Sad but much needed. I am making a thread because I need advise from you guys.

Here is a list of issues I've had with my i7 rig lately.

1- Video card. Screen would go black and fan would spin up forcing me to reboot.
2- Once I replaced video card with an X300 I have, it stops issue #1 above, but now I have lost LAN and Audio, forcing me to restart to get it back only to loose it again.
3-with the x300 installed, I have now removed my sound card ( in the specs to the left) and all related creative apps/software/drivers. Seems like this is the longest i've had LAN. Of course no audio now, but the LAN connection is fine so far.

So what would you guys advise me to do.

What I have in mind is monitor a bit more, if all fine, try the 9800GX2 again and see if the sound card was causing the card to act up. If the 9800GX2 still acts up then the card is bad. Then it'll be a matter of getting my sound card to work with the rest of the components.

Ruling out

RAM - 1 1/2 pass of MEMTEST - PASSED
CPU - Passed 100 passes of Intel Burn Test
PSU - All Voltages Tested within specs with multimeter
GPU (GX2) - Ran Furmark for about 7 minutes stable. Quit because of temps (100/103ºc)

PaulieG · Nov 2, 2009

You really want to do a "rule out" here. I'd run some tests on the card to rule it out. Do a couple of loops of 3dmark vantage/06, and maybe the unigine "heaven" demo to really test it. If the card passes these tests, then it's not the card. Run LinX for a 25x cycle. If it passes, rule out the cpu. Run memtest on your ram for 30 minutes. If it passes, rule it out. After all this, if you still have random issues, I'd have to say it's the board. Just be calm and methodical. Through this methodical testing, I've always found the culprit.

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2009

well readong your other thread id say its the board. honestly prob 1 could have been caused by PCI-E slot power cutting out or getting too low tripping the card. and that and with your now present lan and audio glitches id bank on IO operations not working correctly..which probably leads to the NB and or the mobo's power regulators and other power cicuitry.

bogmali · Nov 2, 2009

Sounds like a conflict between your VGA and Sound Card drivers. Are you loading an aftermarket app for that sound card or is it the one that Win7 assigns by default?

PaulieG · Nov 2, 2009

Solaris17 said:
well readong your other thread id say its the board. honestly prob 1 could have been caused by PCI-E slot power cutting out or getting too low tripping the card. and that and with your now present lan and audio glitches id bank on IO operations not working correctly..which probably leads to the NB and or the mobo's power regulators and other power cicuitry.

It could be, but it's worth ruling out everything else. Asumption is the mother of all f'ups.

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

Paulieg said:
You really want to do a "rule out" here. I'd run some tests on the card to rule it out. Do a couple of loops of 3dmark vantage/06, and maybe the unigine "heaven" demo to really test it. If the card passes these tests, then it's not the card. Run LinX for a 25x cycle. If it passes, rule out the cpu. Run memtest on your ram for 30 minutes. If it passes, rule it out. After all this, if you still have random issues, I'd have to say it's the board. Just be calm and methodical. Through this methodical testing, I've always found the culprit.

with the 9800GX2 I was not able to do that because the screen goes blank after a minute or two. Even happened running memtest. So I can't come to a conclusion with it installed. I will monitor it now, LAN is still working now with out creative stuff installed. If its fine by later. I will do this, linx/memtest etc. If all is fine then I will try the GX2 without audio drivers and see how that goes.

Solaris17 said:
well readong your other thread id say its the board. honestly prob 1 could have been caused by PCI-E slot power cutting out or getting too low tripping the card. and that and with your now present lan and audio glitches id bank on IO operations not working correctly..which probably leads to the NB and or the mobo's power regulators and other power cicuitry.

Well now its fine without the sound card :confused:

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2009

Paulieg said:
It could be, but it's worth ruling out everything else.

granted my post was more an answer to his previous thread were he ran memtest etc more for problem 1 then a whole system diag. im mearely posting my thoughts based on the rpev thread and new info he has provided in OP

PaulieG · Nov 2, 2009

Solaris17 said:
granted my post was more an answer to his previous thread were he ran memtest etc more for problem 1 then a whole system diag. im mearely posting my thoughts based on the rpev thread and new info he has provided in OP

Understood. I wasn't saying it was was a bad suggestion.

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
with the 9800GX2 I was not able to do that because the screen goes blank after a minute or two. Even happened running memtest. So I can't come to a conclusion with it installed. I will monitor it now, LAN is still working now with out creative stuff installed. If its fine by later. I will do this, linx/memtest etc. If all is fine then I will try the GX2 without audio drivers and see how that goes.

Well now its fine without the sound card

well in that case id try looking over the IRQ resources in the bios..though usually the vid is on a totally diff range.

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

Solaris17 said:
well in that case id try looking over the IRQ resources in the bios..though usually the vid is on a totally diff range.

you have same board, what exactly should I look for, not too familiar with that stuff.

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
you have same board, what exactly should I look for, not too familiar with that stuff.

well nothing in particular you just want to make sure none of them have the same number.

also check your div manager and make sure their is nothing failing to start.

Nick89 · Nov 2, 2009

Solaris17 said:
well readong your other thread id say its the board. honestly prob 1 could have been caused by PCI-E slot power cutting out or getting too low tripping the card. and that and with your now present lan and audio glitches id bank on IO operations not working correctly..which probably leads to the NB and or the mobo's power regulators and other power cicuitry.

Exactly what I was thinking!

msgclb · Nov 2, 2009

I'm curious why you're using the sound card. I'm not sure which EVGA X58 you've got but I'd bet it looks something like this...

Why can't you use the motherboard audio? At least while you figure this out.

Whenever I have a problem like this I start with all stock settings and run at least 2 complete runs of memtest86+ v4.00. I use the bootable iso version.

Can you put your 9800GX2 in another system? Maybe the PSU has degraded where it can't handle the 9800GX2.

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

Solaris17 said:
well nothing in particular you just want to make sure none of them have the same number.

also check your div manager and make sure their is nothing failing to start.

I will upon next reboot. Question, how the hell do I get atitool out of there? I cant find it anywhere!

msgclb said:
I'm curious why you're using the sound card. I'm not sure which EVGA X58 you've got but I'd bet it looks something like this...

http://img.techpowerup.org/091101/CP-EVGA-X58-1.jpg

Why can't you use the motherboard audio? At least while you figure this out.

Whenever I have a problem like this I start with all stock settings and run at least 2 complete runs of memtest86+ v4.00. I use the bootable iso version.

Can you put your 9800GX2 in another system? Maybe the PSU has degraded where it can't handle the 9800GX2.

I wanted to see if I had an issue with no sound at all and then with on board. For now creative seems to be the issue, I will enable on board and install its latest drivers soon. Just monitoring and running some tests for now as Paul suggested.

p_o_s_pc · Nov 2, 2009

if you can't test the 9800GX2(i'm sure you can but still will offer) I will test it if you have no other hope just pay to ship it to me and back.

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2009

did u look in X86? i dont bealive it writes eg values though their may be a dll or system file someware. did you have it once before? and remove it? or do you have it installed? does it say code 10 device cannot start?

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

p_o_s_pc said:
if you can't test the 9800GX2(i'm sure you can but still will offer) I will test it if you have no other hope just pay to ship it to me and back.

I'll keep you posted on that :toast:

Thanks.

Solaris17 said:
did u look in X86? i dont bealive it writes eg values though their may be a dll or system file someware. did you have it once before? and remove it? or do you have it installed? does it say code 10 device cannot start?

Here is what it says.

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2009

hmm try reintalling amd uninstalling..not to be confused with uninstalling & reinstalling

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

Solaris17 said:
hmm try reintalling amd uninstalling..not to be confused with uninstalling & reinstalling

will try that shortly.

msgclb · Nov 2, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
I will upon next reboot. Question, how the hell do I get atitool out of there? I cant find it anywhere!

http://img.techpowerup.org/091101/Capture158.jpg

Try this...

Can NOT remove ATITool registry key!

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

msgclb said:
Try this...

Can NOT remove ATITool registry key!

ill give that a shot :toast:

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

msgclb said:
Try this...

Can NOT remove ATITool registry key!

Well, I found my way around that at least so it don't show in device manager anymore.

In my Registry I was able to delete all files but this one. :mad:

msgclb · Nov 2, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
ill give that a shot

I noticed that post goes back to 04-15-2006, 08:07 AM. Don't know if it's still relevant. I found it by doing a Google search for 'removing atitool'. Do the same and you see more choices.

Chicken Patty · Nov 2, 2009

msgclb said:
I noticed that post goes back to 04-15-2006, 08:07 AM. Don't know if it's still relevant. I found it by doing a Google search for 'removing atitool'. Do the same and you see more choices.

I did and that was the only helpful one. check my previous post. I just posted a few seconds before you. Thanks for the help :toast:

Velvet Wafer · Nov 2, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Sad but much needed. I am making a thread because I need advise from you guys.

Here is a list of issues I've had with my i7 rig lately.

1- Video card. Screen would go black and fan would spin up forcing me to reboot.
2- Once I replaced video card with an X300 I have, it stops issue #1 above, but now I have lost LAN and Audio, forcing me to restart to get it back only to loose it again.
3-with the x300 installed, I have now removed my sound card ( in the specs to the left) and all related creative apps/software/drivers. Seems like this is the longest i've had LAN. Of course no audio now, but the LAN connection is fine so far.

So what would you guys advise me to do.

What I have in mind is monitor a bit more, if all fine, try the 9800GX2 again and see if the sound card was causing the card to act up. If the 9800GX2 still acts up then the card is bad. Then it'll be a matter of getting my sound card to work with the rest of the components.

that sounds shockingly after my experiences... especially the back screen and the audio part... i have 2 soundcards, that, after a while built in, say to me: "im not detectable anymore (soundblaster Live),or i make "RSHHSHSH" (ultron)

i thought about wcg producing system errors... it cant be, that many people share RANDOM issues?

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A Thread dedicated to issues with my PC

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Velvet Wafer

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