Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jul 29, 2009.
I'm guessing you've never used it for an extended period of time?
Go and eat that huge Windows 7 cake that Microsoft sent you for spreading lies about a superior operating system for the vast majority of PC users. To whoever said that you needed a PHD in computer science to make use of Linux, you're wrong, Ubuntu is pretty damn idiot proof (as long as the installer doesn't hang, that becomes interesting), Linux mint seems even harder to break than UNR too. You can fit 9.04 into 700mb but it would be a stripped down version (probably the server version of the OS with a few packages added).
Yes, I have found the light side, Microsoft will fall in time as there is NO need for the vast majority of users to pay for an OS.
Depends on what your using it for....
Sorry - I forgot to explain that I actually care a great deal about the work the WWF fund does, and as such in this unusual case, I may actually consider making a donation in return for a useful product.
I understand that it is a great deal cheaper to jippo yer own at home, and anyone can do it, but I personally think its a great way for a charity to generate motivated support.
If you're using it for games it is limited yes, the VAST majority of the time I'm not doing anything for which I'd need Windows, only times I have needed to use windows recently are an anime I torrented which has no subtitles and the uploader only mentioned CCCP as working, I could probably find a linux way, using my lexmark printer and editing playlists for my iPod, pretty damned brilliant otherwise though...
Of course Microsoft will fall, everything dies, everything has an end. I just don't see it going anywhere anytime soon until game developers quit using Direct X, which Microsoft has a monopoly over.
Well Star trek has survived the demise of Rodenberry... And that is just a series... microsoft now thats even larger...
Or linux manages to change its image/ people actually research computers before they buy them (like hell does joe bloggs do anymore research than ask in the shop what's best for their needs before they get an overpriced OEM pile of garbage shoved on them). People are scared of change, that's why linux based netbooks get a higher return rate, not because it can't do what they need it to do.
Linux doesn't do what I need it to do as a gamer. Sure, it would be great for.. uh... ??
The vast majority of other people who are too computer illiterate to play games in Windows, it'd benefit them. MS should make a FAR better product, if something that's free comes anything like close to something that can cost upwards of £100 the paid for product has cocked up somewhere.
WTF Too computer illiterate to play games in Windows? I was doing that when I was 8 years old! If someone is too computer illiterate to install a game and play it in Windows, there's like... negative over 9000 chance they will want to move from Windows to Linux.
Maybe these types of people should stick to programs like these fine products:
hows close to 2 years setting it up for people at a local computer recycling charity where all the systems where noobuntu?
Win7 sucks, but nice try at insulting and belittling me, keep at it and somebody you may become a proper linux troll.
read this and understand how hard i tried to defend linux despite the fact its not my favorite os in the world.
btw, the resion i said what i said, I TRIED TO DEFEND LINUX and was informed by staff and other know it all's that linux is useless trash.
and no MS isnt going to fail/die out, Linux isnt to that point yet, sorry but even a guy who spend days trying to get know it all's in [utl=http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=99357]this thread[/url] to understand how much linux has come along cant say that for business and alot of other uses linux or mac can replace windows.
personaly I wont touch a debian/ubuntu based distro, slackware distros are far superior IMHO and far less moron know it all noobie penqintrolls.
btw I am a happy user of windows server 2008 "workstation" and there are alot of things your great noobuntu just cant do that i need to do on a daily basis.
for a netbook or the like, VectorLinux or another slack based distro is rockin tho(noobuntu is to damn heavy, its the vista pre-sp1 of the linux world)
well, yeah those free disks do make great coasters for wood and glass tables, and you can also use them to scare birds away from a garden!!!!
read this thread
they taught me that linux is utterly useless to anybody whos got less then a PHD in computer sciences, I mean my father whos a fing noob that had to call dell every few days to get help with vista can use VectorLinux6 standard edition without asking me for help, but linux is way to hard for normal people to use.
ah but people like us grewup with computers, many older people didnt, they are the ones that need the most hand holding, and you know the funniest part, I have put a good number of older people who know JACK SHIT about computers on Xandros or Vector(both linux distros) and had very few complaints, most complaints having to do with stuff that would happen on windows like the user not looking where they saved that picture of their grand daughter they got in an email.
for joe sixpack a good properly setup linux distro can cover everything they plan to do, and do it without leaving them open to malware/spyware/viruses that plauge windows(i love my windows but fact is that it lets stupid users do stupid things like install malware)
Oh shit, I started to forget the lesson WileE, Dippyskoodlez, FordGT90Concept and others taught me, Linux is to hard for normal people to use, you need at least a PHD in computer sciences to use it.....gotta remember that.....
More a novelty techy style stocking filler esque item than anything.
Ubunto will run pretty much anything but i have found that its too much effort.. sorry pyro but as a gamer id rather pay for developers to do the work for you do have a point though
cous i got world of warcraft to run on a system but it was too much effort... so no...
I go to Windows for gaming, too much of a pain to install them through wine + the only system properly capable of gaming in my posession doesn't have linux of any variety on (I use linux for browsing and word processing etc, my dad moans about my desktop taking too much power).
Sorry for making assumptions Meecrob, I was being a bit of a linux troll, I might try a slackware based distro at some point, only reason I haven't so far is that I've only had to reinstall once and my internet was acting up so I ended up borrowing a linux mint boot disk from a friend. But linux is pretty damn easy to make your way around, sure you may need to google how to install stuff every now and again but it is usually a lot simpler than installing through windows (or just use synaptic).
@Hat: I meant the type of person who uses a console because they claim installing games etc is too complicated.
I'm seriously considering installing a linux distro on the PC my dad's giving to my aunt as well as win XP as XP just seems to be a virus magnet (guess UAC has changed my approach to security a bit as I destroyed my XP install on here). You may have to use software I don't on a daily basis (say CAD for instance but then again my school has software that runs better through wine than it does on vista although that's due to the IT managers knowing bugger all about computers).
Right, anti-MS rant is over but I still hate them for overcharging for the home version of the OS (particularly for someone going into sixth form, you still need the software but you can't get discounts like university students).
That's not my point. My point is I was able to install and play games when I was 8 years old. Why can't a full grown adult not be able to do something an 8 year old child can?
Dude a lil space baring wouldn't hurt thats hard to read...
I'm NOT picking sides... but I hear you hat...
Its' not at all that I expect everyone on earth to be able to compile their own custom kernel, but the basic ability to install their own printer drivers doesn't really seem TOO much to ask from somebody who spends 5hr's + per working day using a computer for the last 10 years :\
NOT really on the exact same topic - but its genuinely concerning how many ppl who actively use computers every day have nearly NO clue what-so-ever.
One would think it would just soak in over time.
Yep, the number of people like that is unbelievable. My dad wouldn't have a HOPE IN HELL of installing a game through steam even if it was preinstalled, let alone straight off the disk (I'm not talking E:TW installer issues here). Linux is simpler to use than Windows for the vast majority of users, sure I've been using Windows for years but it took me all of 5 minutes to learn how to use linux, hell even the wireless card on the lappy in my sig which needs the proprietary driver to work (fun times installing it without internet...) Sod it, I'm starting a new topic on this as we've gone way OT here.
I'm sorry but I epically fail at comprehending the possibility of somebody not being able to install or play a game on Windows, let alone taking it a step further and taking the same person and introducing them to Linux and expecting them to be able to use it easier than they did Windows.
I DO believe that it is possible to take somebody off the street who doesn't know jack shit about computers in the least (which means they wouldn't know how to install/use games on Windows) and introduce them to a user-friendly edition of Linux and getting that to work. But not somebody who has been using Windows for a while, yet can't figure out how to install a game and expect them to pick up a totally different OS (Linux) like it's nothing...
Apart from an hour or so of complaining and demanding I reinstalled Windows on my laptop my dad had no issues whatsoever with Ubuntu desktop (he did spend years working with windows systems but never knows what to do if something goes properly wrong).
I use Windows on my desktop, for gaming. On my laptop, I have Ubuntu, because it does everything I need, and it does it faster than windows.
Yes, I think a lot more people could be using Linux. I think a lot of the time, the only reason they are using Windows is because it was what was installed for them (on their dell/hp/etc.)
Just put large icons that say "Internet" and "Email" on the desktop, and I'm pretty sure 50% of users wouldn't care what o/s they were using (see chrome OS).
Deity damn it, Ubuntu trolls are everywhere!
Nifty idea, but why Ubuntu? At least give us a proper distro.
As to the simplicity argument, download random linux programs online, and install them in linux with the ease that you can install Windows programs.
Also note that Meecrob is just being a troll. Only one person in the other thread said linux sucks, the others just pointed out the fact that Windows is easier to use.
Ubuntu will be fine for the main purpose of this memory stick (recovering data from a messed up windows install) as you just need to open up the other drive find the files you're after and copy them over, reinstall windows install the drivers to read the ext3 filesystem and wham bam thankyou maam you're system is fixed.
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