[AF] Andreoid & Finnzwerg watercool tinkering (TONS OF PIX)

[Andreoid]

now in the pictures above you have those tabs that move so their more universal. Do you think those would warp easy due to pressure from being screwed down?

this retaining bracket system is approved by our succeed UCD (Universal cooling device) chipset waterblocks

so you all don't only want to see our waterblocks, .. also the little machine that produce the copper-beautys ...
I had promised you to post the build-report from our CNC with we are spending with very very very much time

We start with the basic structure:

A cast mineral with the edge length of 700mm
(So not as great as it seems )

The linear rail which we had previously sent to the mineral-cast-manufacturer all were assembled very clean.

the ball screws, we have from a CNC forum.
20mm diameter .. 10 slope
the linear rails we have bought in ebay.
we have got the cast as a cadfile from the manufacturer
I had imported it into my 3Dprogram (Alibre)
my first try in the cad stuff looks like this:

in der cad war ich nun noch nicht weit genug das ich mit großen teilen der cnc anfangen konnte,
also machte ich kleine notwendige sachen wie die Feingewindemuttern und Lagerblöcke.

with the help of cad file I wanted to create a safe construction to check the dimensions of the linear rails.
without the cad workings probably nothing would had worked.
I wasn't close enough in the cad that I could begin with large parts of the cnc
So I made some little things,... things that are necessary as fine-thread-nuts and bearing blocks.

brass Hexagon and a "Trennjäger" saw

next steps i did on thos lathe:

tools:

Core hole drilling

Tapping

Bevels

cutting off

almost finished parts

Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures ... which were made with the mobile

soooo we come to the bearing blocks

I have worked with the Mikron here

pre-milling

Retaining bars for attaching

then drilled the fixing screws for the fixable and movable bearing

continueing soon...

 

[Andreoid]

on it goes with CNC tinkering

the table was made of two old shelves and a steel L-profile welded together.

all visible seams ground over and painted beautifully

looking much better

The cast mineral was moved out on its palette
and prepared for the separation of portal and bottom:

and then, were the parts apart ..

The stand has been prepared for the machine:

Here with the later boxes and coolant filters:

on the cross bar ...

...was laid a balance sheet (for the thickness of the L-profiles) and some anti-slip mats.
Please ignore the chaos in our workshop
I need this to keep everything in place in my head XD.

the welded tray was laid in...

here you can see the outlet:

everything in position:

It continues with the Z-axis ...
the first 25mm Bosch Rexroth rail was installed and ...

... adjusted.

second rail:

This must be precisely!

the finished cut to length Z-spindle:

looks great with the 4 wagon ... damn solid

And here I will get problems with the installation later! -.-
first the wagons then the spindle? Or first the spindle? Or install all at once?
Okay ... the next CNC I will construct definitely a different way!

 

[Solaris17]

1366/1156 interchangable cpu block? any price? btw that is awesome. I hope u guys go big. Seriously some of the coolest stuff iv seen. not to mention your not some Dbag CEO its really cool that you come onto the forums and show us this stuff and talk. Down to earth brings much respect. good job man.

 

[Frick]

Just looked through this thread, and you guys have some serious hardware. Respect!

 

[Andreoid]

1366/1156 interchangable cpu block? any price? btw that is awesome. I hope u guys go big. Seriously some of the coolest stuff iv seen. not to mention your not some Dbag CEO its really cool that you come onto the forums and show us this stuff and talk. Down to earth brings much respect. good job man.

i was wondering what is "Dbag CEO"?
hmm leo cant translate it
1366/1156 interchangable cpu block

Just looked through this thread, and you guys have some serious hardware. Respect!

thank you and it the hardware is still growing

 

[Solaris17]

i was wondering what is "Dbag CEO"?
hmm leo cant translate it
1366/1156 interchangable cpu block

thank you and it the hardware is still growing

um...CEO is like the owner of companies. and Dbag.....well...thats another word for A**Hole

 

[Andreoid]

previously separate is brought together now

the machine pedestal

must be back in the tub:

So asked anyone with crane again
... Loops in the eye bolts

and so into the tub

here I screw the eye-screws back out

then next the portal (under the covers)

this is Finn

not this easy

first raise

reposition the loop

up now!

connected

looks good

Tapping again

then mount the Y-spindle and align

some punches for the table. so that it slips in position

and fixing

there will act large forces

with assembled Z-motor

coming forward very well... but the cnc can not mill so far

 

[Delta6326]

That is awesome keep up the great work!

 

[roast]

Excellent products, and really great to see you coming to the forum to show us. You should definitly try and expand the business into GPU waterblocks and GPU/Full Cover waterblocks in the future, there would be a huge market in it.
I like the packaging too, very stylish.
Also, add a language selector to your website.

Respect!

 

[Andreoid]

Excellent products, and really great to see you coming to the forum to show us. You should definitly try and expand the business into GPU waterblocks and GPU/Full Cover waterblocks in the future, there would be a huge market in it.
I like the packaging too, very stylish.
Also, add a language selector to your website.
Respect!

gpu waterblocks aren't this easy cause of different high chips,... and the blocks does have a very short life on the market
maybe well do some gpufullcover when the big cnc is finished
.. language selector... jea jea jea... we need a full new website -.- ^^

actually this should be a watercooling thread so I have to show you some waterblocks a few times between ^^

top left of the MSI 790FX fullcover ... and the follower down in the middle

because a bad sitting capacitor on the board the new MSI 890FX fullcover block have now a smaller top. is has a winding distance of 18mm

Despite 890s engraving backward compatible to 790FX

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and if we are talking about the 890 boards...
PWM032 the new 890FX for ASUS boards!

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here a few photos of the user "fhantastic" from the "forumdeluxx"
He has let nickeled his evga cooler set (not by us...we can't do this)

klick

PWM029 EVGA P55 left block

klick

the EVGA P55 FTW 200 fullcover Waterblock
but it dont fit on the EVGA P55 FTW without "200" addition

klick

klick

regards
André

 

[t_ski]

Very cool stuff. I love workshops, watercooling and power tools. The nickel blocks look very nice (I prefer them to the straight copper or darkened copper).

 

[Andreoid]

something new again ;D

I start with a couple of photos that are prettier than mine
a high quality project, which I supported a little bit:

Marc's "Projekt Black meets Blue" - Marc1993
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/communit...e-soundkartenabdeckung-ist-fertig-684330.html

on the Gigabyte GA-P55A were installed a PWM031 two times and a UCD grande.
the bottoms were stained dark chemical

Unfortunately I can not make such amazing photos
for now I'll show some new models ^^
a new fullcover light waterblock for the MSI 890GXM-G65

the cool links, like the 790 or 890FX cooler, the NB with the voltage transformers
I have decided against engraving, because the arm is very thin

the Sapphire IPC AM3DD785G NB & SB block i have made new too
(our Soleil01 cpu block as AMD Version)

close to the air cooler

when a slot milling soleil01 bottom,..some things can go wrong ...
here is the saw blade bursted
you can still see the remains of copper sheet in the bottom
as a time to say, there is no action at a water cooling

this weekend will get an Asus Crosshair IV Formula (AMD 890FX)

There will probably come a full light as the 790FX
and maybe a total fullcoverblock


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[Andreoid]

so, after three weeks of waiting for the board by a user ...
the board simply does not come, and the user do not report to my mails
so I bought my own board. -.-

first putting the uninteresting cooler down

for the voltage converter and north bridge, there is again a anfi-tec light cover
this is the cooler in the cad file, graphically

simulated:

and in real life
top only layed on

distance of 22.5 mm g1/4" thread .. it also fits thick 16/10

the copper bridge already provided in the ocerclocked MSI790FX good temperatures ... then it will work at the asus too

Details:

with the UCD (universal cooling device) SB in addition you get the board as completely cooled
should I draw a complete full cover block? (~ 12 hours of cad working)
I would at least have to mill about 10 blocks, so that the effort worthwhile for long cadding, ..

Now, you are asked:

1) a favorable light Cover + SB UCD is enough.
2) An elaborate Full Cover must be already.


regards
André

 

[Solaris17]

amazing work man

 

[mlee49]

so, after three weeks of waiting for the board by a user ...
the board simply does not come, and the user do not report to my mails
so I bought my own board. -.-

first putting the uninteresting cooler down
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_9.jpg

for the voltage converter and north bridge, there is again a anfi-tec light cover
this is the cooler in the cad file, graphically
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_7.jpg

simulated:
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_8.jpg

and in real life
top only layed on
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_1.jpg

distance of 22.5 mm g1/4" thread .. it also fits thick 16/10
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_3.jpg

the copper bridge already provided in the ocerclocked MSI790FX good temperatures ... then it will work at the asus too

Details:
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_6.jpg

http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_5.jpg

http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.0...fi-tec_Fullcover_light_Asus_Crosshair_4_4.jpg

with the UCD (universal cooling device) SB in addition you get the board as completely cooled
should I draw a complete full cover block? (~ 12 hours of cad working)
I would at least have to mill about 10 blocks, so that the effort worthwhile for long cadding, ..

Now, you are asked:

1) a favorable light Cover + SB UCD is enough.
2) An elaborate Full Cover must be already.


regards
André

I think a light cover would be fine. Most SB's just dont get that hot.

Your work is killer! I hope you are lucky enough to sell some of your designs to future companies or continue to manufacture very unique products.

When will GPU's receive the AF touch?

 

[Andreoid]

Your work is killer! I hope you are lucky enough to sell some of your designs to future companies or continue to manufacture very unique products.

When will GPU's receive the AF touch?

thank you...

GPUs... we allready have a gpu only waterblock..
but i hope that we can mill big fullcoverblocks for graficcard this or next year.

 

[Andreoid]

So i didn't post anything a long time ago... studies getting harder and harder.. spending more and more time with learning and writing tests
but now my tests of the last semester are over and i got the time to make some new blocks!

We got Asus crosshair IV extreme... overkclocking by iPhone... so this is the future of mainboards
so then,...lets cool this thing!
i made a 3D cad of the board,.. because this got to be complex
(the litle copper rings is the start of the waterblocks)

these rings will be connected tangential.. an so the blocks grows

between the PCI-E slot and the 4 capacitors i have space of ~ 8mm
if i design a waterchanel in there, it would kill every flow in the block

two lightcoverblocks or two fullcoverblocks
made the copperplates:

again the same problem... the space over the pwms is not wide enough for a chanel with a good waterflow -.-

so i took the lightcoverblock which established itself in the MSI790FX, MSI890FX,
890GXM-G65, ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, Asus M4A 890FX and in the EVGA P55 FTW 200.

i like this little tools in the cad program... radius tool

the SB Lightcover between the second and third graficcard with triple SLI.
the waterflow ist direct over the SB Chip.

NB PWM block, the waterflow ist direct over the NB Chip.

a view from the side. you can see the placement of the fittings between the graficcards

isometric angle

this here is interessting
the block and the board are in a cut view .. so that you can see the waterchanel, and the notch of the seal

although playing in 3D i have to test the correctness with an plexidummy

milling it in plexi

fits!

better than the plexidummy...the real ones in copper!

Finn and I are the first ones with offering the cooling set for this Asus crosshair IV extrem..
let's see how quickly the bigger manufacturers will follow us

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today a test of our "UPC slim" was published

Our universal PWM (UPC slim) had been tested by the german watercoolingsite "Effizienzgurus.de" against a MVR-100-block by Koolance.
The UPC had got an efficiency-award!

next to a pair of pretty pictures and detailed descriptions of the coolers
there is still a flow test of both coolers (but unfortunately complete in german)

link to the test:
http://www.effizienzgurus.de/review...einleitung-lieferumfang-technische-daten.html

 

[Solaris17]

so i didn't post anything a long time ago... Studies getting harder and harder.. Spending more and more time with learning and writing tests
but now my tests of the last semester are over and i got the time to make some new blocks!

we got asus crosshair iv extreme... Overkclocking by iphone... So this is the future of mainboards :d
so then,...lets cool this thing!
I made a 3d cad of the board,.. Because this got to be complex
(the litle copper rings is the start of the waterblocks)
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (18).jpg

these rings will be connected tangential.. An so the blocks grows
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (1).jpg

between the pci-e slot and the 4 capacitors i have space of ~ 8mm
if i design a waterchanel in there, it would kill every flow in the block
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (19).jpg

two lightcoverblocks or two fullcoverblocks
made the copperplates:
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (2).jpg

again the same problem... The space over the pwms is not wide enough for a chanel with a good waterflow -.-
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (3).jpg

so i took the lightcoverblock which established itself in the msi790fx, msi890fx,
890gxm-g65, asus crosshair iv formula, asus m4a 890fx and in the evga p55 ftw 200.
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (7).jpg

i like this little tools in the cad program... Radius tool :d
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (4).jpg

the sb lightcover between the second and third graficcard with triple sli.
The waterflow ist direct over the sb chip.
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (5).jpg

nb pwm block, the waterflow ist direct over the nb chip.
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (6).jpg

a view from the side. You can see the placement of the fittings between the graficcards
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (8).jpg

isometric angle
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (9).jpg

this here is interessting
the block and the board are in a cut view .. So that you can see the waterchanel, and the notch of the seal
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (10).jpg

although playing in 3d i have to test the correctness with an plexidummy
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (11).jpg

milling it in plexi
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (12).jpg

fits!
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (13).jpg

better than the plexidummy...the real ones in copper!
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (14).jpg

http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (15).jpg

http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/asus crosshair iv extreme wasserkuehler (17).jpg

finn and i are the first ones with offering the cooling set for this asus crosshair iv extrem..
Let's see how quickly the bigger manufacturers will follow us

-------------------------------------------------------------

today a test of our "upc slim" was published

our universal pwm (upc slim) had been tested by the german watercoolingsite "effizienzgurus.de" against a mvr-100-block by koolance.
The upc had got an efficiency-award!

next to a pair of pretty pictures and detailed descriptions of the coolers
there is still a flow test of both coolers (but unfortunately complete in german)
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/universeller spannungswandlerkuehler (1).jpg

link to the test:
http://www.effizienzgurus.de/review...einleitung-lieferumfang-technische-daten.html

http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/10.10.04/universeller spannungswandlerkuehler (2).jpg

nice!

 

[Andreoid]

Waterblocks for the EVGA P55 CLASSIFIED 200

so,.. i have a naked EVGA P55 CLASSIFIED 200 lying here
at first the PWM modules....
The water cooler model what I design for cools over the entire length the
digital MOSFET and CPL modules (just like the original air-cooler).
The cooler will cost 45 € ...

Now for the problem case, the NB-SB cooler. Indeed, there are 4 possible options:

Option 1: Two separate cooler, a new model for the NB with series-top and UCDsb for the SB.
I thought to set all this in a package with the UCDsb for ~ 60 €
(usable fittings, max 18mm diameter).
In this version, you maybe get space problems with a thick graphiccard.

Option 2: A Lightcover model as the EVGA P55 FTW 200
with a series-PWM -top ~ 60 € (usable fittings, as desired)

Option 3: Another Lightcover but somewhat smaller than in version 2 ~ 55 €
(usable fittings, max 18mm diameter).
The cooler uses the same cover as in version 1.

Option 4: An all-through-flow cooler ..
but only one way,... a thread up and one down.
~ 65€ because no series top can be used.
In this version, you maybe get space problems with a thick graphiccard, too.

Version 1:

Version 2:

Version 3:

Version 4:

For a version with both threads up, and a channel to the SB an back there,
there is not enough space for the two required channels.

now its your turn... especially of interest is of course the opinion of the people who have a EVGA P55 CLASSIFIED 200

 

[Andreoid]

no opinion to the NBSB at the EVGA P55 CLASSIFIED 200?

btw... happy new year!

 

[Solaris17]

no opinion to the NBSB at the EVGA P55 CLASSIFIED 200?

btw... happy new year!

i think thats a good design. have the water flow over both chips= efficient.

 

[Andreoid]

i think thats a good design. have the water flow over both chips= efficient.

there is no need for a flow over both chips..
the technik has proofed in the EVGA P55 FTW 200 or many other boards, also overclocked.

stood today with a hangover in my workshop, but here is the finish:
Anfi/tec EVGA P55 Classified 200 set ^^

is in my shop, and will be available at aquatuning.uk/us for 89,90€ (120$)

tomorrow i'll make some more pictures

 

[Andreoid]

The new PWM037 .. cools as the original cooler, the digital PWMs and the CPL components.

and this is the finished EVGA P55 CLASSIFIED 200 watercoolingset:

just like the EVGA P55 FTW 200 had , i had created an opening for the silver quarz in this lightcover.
The distances, except for the connection to the SB, are completely identical to the EVGA P55 FTW 200 Light Cover.
As a cover I have now decided for a series-cover with the size of the UCDgrande.

On the SB there is no engraving ...
in turn, saving significant cost in production because no tool change must take place.
Instead, there is a nice design-gimmick with a few indicated Fins .
This is really just a design element! The SB can be cooled completely
through the copper-bridge to the NB without additional air flow.
The copper-bridge- (Light Cover) technology has proven good temperatures on
many boards, even in overclocked state (eg. MSI 790FX, ASUS Crosshair Formula IV ..etc).
There is no need for critics to redirected at a water channel.
Simply not liking the bare copper, one can say ^^
(Because I know that the question is asked often:
Unfortunately, we still do not have good/reliable partner for nickel plating in the area)

I was against to make a complete new cover, because we can not produce
these low-priced in the same good quality as our series-cover.
I have chosen a series-cover, because we always have them in stock in the highest quality.
This makes the cooler is not only cheaper, furthermore the surfaces and accuracy
the cover remain in the desired quality.

The mainboard is to be quite good for a full cover solution, but to produce
high quality fullcover economically, we miss the instruments for.
This was a compromise that I did not wish to.
Then rather,usual well, but much cheaper.

Not to forget is that the copper part disappears among graphics cards.
The grandecover offers the PCI-E slot a little more space than its predecessor
with the longer PWMtop at the EVGA P55 FTW 200th
The grandecover affords instead of the proposed version of the Nano cover,
a compatible for fittings with a diameter of 22.5 mm.

The EVGA Set is now available in the shop for only 89.90€ (120$)..
In stock next week then at Aqua tuning.

 

[roast]

Excellent work as always, keep it up.

 

[Fitseries3]

im looking to get a home cnc setup to make RC car parts. how much would it cost to get me started? any suggestions on what to get?