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AMD A-10 5800k Trinity APU - What can it crossfire with?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Vario, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. Vario

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    Hey guys,


    I am looking at building a new computer (that is medium priced but overclockable) and it looks like the best value right now is the A10, especially paired with newegg's combo deal with motherboard for around $230. What graphics cards will this APU crossfire with? I was also interested in the Radeon HD 7850D priced at around $180-200. Can this crossfire with the lesser HD7660D GPU built into the A10?

    I was interested in the i5 2500k but priced with a motherboard would be $100 more and I understand that the A10 can deliver similar performance.

    I used to post on this site about 6 years ago, back when it was all the rage to do x800-850 bios flashing etc.:toast:

    Thanks!
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    Going by the box i have infront of me it is either a HD 6670 or 6570
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    Okay good info. I am still going to probably go with that over the i5 because of that $100 difference.
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    widely available in australia?
    it is so hard to get in indonesia :banghead:
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    Is that HD7660D plus HD6670 Crossfired at all competitive to a $150+ gpu?
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    I don't remember how fast that setup is, but it's a hit and miss. In some games it doesn't work at all, in others it works ok.
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    crossfire

    The a-10 on board gpu will "crossfire"with any amd single discrete card(hd 6670)(hd6570) with a motherboard with amd dual graphics technology enabled thru the bios...OR... ANY single amd card with a motherboard with (LucidLogix virtu mvp) supported...2 cards would of course be true "crossfire". both methods will use both gpu's together with a single.


    http://www.lucidlogix.com/ (freeware)
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    one of the disadvantages is that the onboard GPU uses DDR3 RAM. so there is some pretty evident bottlenecking. i hope amd intro's DDR5 ram in atleast their apu line
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    If you have a DDR3 HD6670, that performance penalty isn't so noticable. It also helps if you have 1866MHz RAM.
    As for what you sugested, DDD, AMD used to have something called sideport memory. Which were dedicated RAM chips, just for the IGP. But that was back when AMD's IGP was part of the chipset. I'm sure that, with the IGP being part of the CPU die, on the APUs, the architecture would not allow for a separate, dedicated RAM channel.
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    no, i meant amd should go for all DDR5. ddr3 has been around long enough.
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    DDR4 needs to be released first. :laugh:
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    never heard of DDR4 LOL
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    *Similar performance to an i3-3220 in terms of CPU performance. An A10 paired in a CF setup may be better budget gaming-wise.
    trickson says thanks.
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    Do not confuse GDDR5 with DDR5, what is actually used on graphics cards are GDDR5 memory chips which are not suitable for system memory.
    DDR5 hardly even exists yet. In fact the first DDR4 module is only manufactured in 2011 and is released this year.
    What you see on graphics card boxes are just marketing teams doing a lousy job.
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    the apu line actually offers pretty good gaming performance. i5 computing power is too much. evev crysis 3 can be run at max on an fx4100
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    I never said it didn't; was just correcting the statement. For all intents and purposes, the A10-5800K is a very decent CPU(APU). More importantly, it's priced just right, if it wasn't, I probably wouldn't be praising it. AMD may not compete toe-to-toe with Intel, in regards to performance, on a tier basis, but they sure are pricing them competitively. Another such example would be the i5-2500K (middle tier) and the FX-8350 (top tier).
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    i was kind of visualizing it as something of an "i4", (when considering the price it is ... ) better than the i3 and not as good as the i5

    Is it worth the extra $100 to run an i5? I am grappling with this at the moment. I am not a fanboy on these things, I've run amd, intel, radeon, and nvidia, i just buy the best for the money.
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    An i5 would give you substantial performance over the A10, but not if you are relying on the IGP for graphics. That $100 may be better spent on an SSD for your OS. That being said, that i5 would future proof a bit more, if you were planning on keeping your new build for a long while.
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    amd is always bang for buck.
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    I'd sum up the A10-5800K like this; you trade off roughly 10% of the CPU performance across the board, when compared to an i3-3220, for much greater IGP performance. Where I live, they are priced within ~$15 of each other, so it's really up to what you want/need most. If you bring th i5-2500K into the equation, that is more on par with the AMD FX-8350 (their top-tier CPU).
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    i5 2500k >= 8150
    i7 2600k< 8350
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    Some AMD delusion here...
    At most I'd put the FX-8350 up there with i5-3570K. Sure, it may be hard to directly compare performance results between the two, but one thing is for sure, and that is the price. This means that even AMD markets at the price range of the i5 CPUs knowing full well of where it fits in.
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    pretty sure OP is looking for a gaming rig and hence the A10 -5800K

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