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AMD Adopts 28 nm Bulk Manufacturing in 2013

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. largon New Member

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    In related news, Intel's latest chips are 65nm. That is, Z77 is 65nm.

    Would be nice if the thread title was specified for what use AMD will adopt 28nm.
    'Cause there seems to be a lot of people who just read the title and rushed to comment.
     
  2. seronx

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    28-nm is considered a super-process just like 65-nm. Everything will eventually use it.

    For now:
    CPU
    GPU
    APU
    Future Chipsets

    Also, thanks for the showing the southbridge(PCH) specs for the Z77 it is nice to compare it to the southbridge(FCH) from the A85X(Hudson D4)
     
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    Intel's 14 nm chips aren't due out until 2014 (which will mostlikely be very late 2014, if I may add).
     
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    This should be the thing of TSMC, not AMD. AMD is fabless as far as I am aware...So TSMC should r&d in better tech, not AMD imo.
     
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    AMD still has controlling interest in GloFo. They are seperate companies, but what the two do is tightly linked. AMD is GloFo's biggest customer.

    And as such, AMD still needs to push GloFo to innovate, however they can, and AMD is already doing so, IMHO. There are perhpas a few details they have missed, but Mark Papermaster is still relatively new, and we won't truly see his effect on the company for another 18 months or so. At least he is outting info and marketing, something AMD has lacked greatly in teh past. Hopefully news like this continues.
     
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    No, AMD is completely divested in Global Foundries. It's just another client.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    LoL WHUT!


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    I thought they had to retain that control in order to keep X86 liscence?

    They did not retain voting control? I haz big huge confuse..I knew they were selling off some GloFo equity in ?March?
     
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    all this and much more can be met at 28nm easily, TSV 3d stacked chips are on the way and with them a massive increase in on die cache imho, as in the same space much more can be built, im sure i heard AMD were sniffing around this tech and imho the ps4 and Xbox 7weva are awaiting this tech.
     
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    Nope, Intel and AMD made a deal in 2009.
    TSV doesn't work on the consumer level.
     
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    Now that is a ?? Statement. Intel is a lot larger than AMD. Something like this, despite it being small is quite big for AMD. And no AMD is not far behind, quite the opposite. AMD’s been leading the PC industry ever since 2004. Where AMD has lead, Intel followed and still follows. Both companies need each other to ensure we get the best possible prices in a fair competitive environment.
    Agreed, though I believe AMD going fabless was a big mistake IMO.
     
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    There was a lot of things that AMD could have done differently.

    1. Let JHH become CEO(with the purchase of Nvidia) <-- if this happened the GPGPU market would be a lot better(No Xeon Phi abomination instead we would have had Intel Southern Islands and AMD Kepler)
    2. Kept GlobalFoundries
    3. Kept NAND Flash(especially now since everyone else is making them)
    4. Allow non-reference chipsets
    5. Kept soundcards(personally added their own soundcards instead of Realtek into the boards)
     

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