AMD Bulldozer Eng. Sample leaked, benched

[TheMailMan78]

LOL well it is a law firm after all .

6 raw cores to F#@K you out of your money.

 

[trickson]

6 raw cores to F#@K you out of your money.

And seeing they are AMD's that is one more thing that will F#$k you in the end !

 

[TheMailMan78]

And seeing they are AMD's that is one more thing that will F#$k you in the end !

I'm not even sure what that means.

 

[trickson]

I'm not even sure what that means.

 

[Heavy_MG]

And seeing they are AMD's that is one more thing that will F#$k you in the end !

What is this I don't even......

 

[cadaveca]

I do not see people or businesses buying CPU's that are all about power consumption .

Then why is AMD hyping performance per watt?





It's also a sign of how mis-managed some companies are. Power consumption is a factor when considering office power grid design. 400 Machines drawing 350 watts equals 140,000 watTs of power that office needs. If a pc draws half as much power, that's 70,000 Watts saved. That's potentially $70/hour saved, or just over $50,000 a month. How many of you make that a year?

 

[TheMailMan78]

Then why is AMD hyping performance per watt?





It's also a sign of how mis-managed some companies are. Power consumption is a factor when considering office power grid design. 400 Machines drawing 350 watts equals 140,000 watTs of power that office needs. If a pc draws half as much power, that's 70,000 Watts saved. That's potentially $70/hour saved, or just over $50,000 a month. How many of you make that a year?

It makes sense.....however NO ONE takes that kinda stuff into account. Ive worked with a few IT dept and all they care about is reading HR's emails.

 

[cadaveca]

Maybe part of teh reason it's not considered is due to noone talking about it. I know both AMD and Intel hype performance/watt, and specifically to thier office-based users. Mind you, I pay attention to ALL of thier marketing, while many do not.

 

[erocker]

Then why is AMD hyping performance per watt?

Why do marketeers hype anything? To try to sell it. Still makes little difference. Price is the only real deciding factor especially for office based users.

 

[Thatguy]

Yeah, and you know, I have compared power consumption between 45nm products. Intel still wins there, even when overclocked. Intel has higher clocking overhead due to thier lower power consumption. My i7 870 draws 145w@ 4 GHz, my 1100T draws a bit over 300W.


And that's why, IMHO, in the extreme scene, we see very few people are clocking AMD chips...board limitations brought on by CPU power consumption means that the gains just aren't wprth the effort.

Like don't get me wrong, I used to call myself ATI's #1 fanboy. ATI doesn't exist any more, so now my main concerns are power consumption, and best performance. Differences in design doesn't matter...it's a set workload, that draws variable power based on platform, and completes in a variable time, based on performance.

You may not like that compare, but it's still definitely valid, especially when it come to the office environment.

300w ? are you sure ?

 

[cadaveca]

Price is the only real deciding factor especially for office based users.

yeah, but you work in an auto shop. My wife works in the hospital environment, and you better beleive they consider power consumption. Would really suck if you needed life support, but they couldn't give it to you because thier PCs draw too much power.

300w ? are you sure ?

YES.

 

[Heavy_MG]

It makes sense.....however NO ONE takes that kinda stuff into account. Ive worked with a few IT dept and all they care about is reading HR's emails.

If offices actually cared about power usage,they would all be running Atoms.

 

[Thatguy]

yeah, but you work in an auto shop. My wife works in the hospital environment, and you better beleive they consider power consumption. Would really suck if you needed life support, but they couldn't give it to you because thier PCs draw too much power.



YES.

How did you measure this ?

 

[Heavy_MG]

yeah, but you work in an auto shop. My wife works in the hospital environment, and you better beleive they consider power consumption. Would really suck if you needed life support, but they couldn't give it to you because thier PCs draw too much power.



YES.

Now you're just grasping at straws,and bashing on a brand saying AMD's draw so much power,if you did anything else,you would blow the whole power grid. In everyday use,a AMD processor won't draw that much more power than your Intel.
Don't most hospitals use laptops anyway?

 

[cadaveca]

How did you measure this ?

With a meter that the CPU 8-pin plugs into. The meter then plugs into the board. the meter tells me how many amps @ 12v go through it, the wattage, and the actual 12v reading. 300W is near the maximum of the cable itself, which is why we are starting to see boards with more than one 8-pin connector, such as the Crosshair V Formula, which has 8-pin, plus another 4-pin....because the 8-pin is just not enough.

Don't most hospitals use laptops anyway?

No, not as a single device people use. Almost every executive has a laptop, as well as thier "box" in the office.


Here, in Alberta, those laptops are slowly being replaced with iPads, but the "box" pc's are still under or on everyone's desk.

 

[Thatguy]

With a meter that the CPU 8-pin plugs into. the meter then plugs into the board.



No, almost every executive has a laptop, as well as thier "box" in the office.


Here, in Alberta, those laptops are slowly being replaced with iPads, but the "box" pc's are still under or on everyone's desk.

and it also power the pci express slots.

 

[TheMailMan78]

yeah, but you work in an auto shop. My wife works in the hospital environment, and you better beleive they consider power consumption. Would really suck if you needed life support, but they couldn't give it to you because thier PCs draw too much power.

Thats a mission critical job man. Thats not the norm. My father was an electrical engineer that turned contractor. Have you ever need the grounding system in an operating room? Yeah comparing hospitals to anything other then an ATCC is kinda pointless.

I know where you are coming from mind you. Its just not relevant here.

 

[cadaveca]

and it also power the pci express slots.

No, those are powered via 24-pin. Remember, I review motherboards...so I know how they work.

Thats a mission critical job man.

You are right...mission critical. Many offices HERE deem thier network as such, specifically the engineering for the oilfield, and the hospitals.

 

[TheMailMan78]

No, those are powered via 24-pin. Remember, I review motherboards...so I know how they work.

I review strippers yet I have no idea how they work.

 

[Thatguy]

No, those are powered via 24-pin. Remember, I review motherboards...so I know how they work.

ahhh, no the cpu is powered from the 24pin

 

[cadaveca]

ahhh, no the cpu is powered from the 24pin

Ok, if you say so. You could always as W1zz, as he isolates PCIe power draw for his reviews, too. Don't take my word for it.

I review strippers yet I have no idea how they work.

NO? You need to get out more...even Duke Nukem knows how strippers work.

 

[TheMailMan78]

You are right...mission critical. Many offices HERE deem thier network as such, specifically the engineering for the oilfield, and the hospitals.

But thats not the norm ya know?

 

[cadaveca]

But thats not the norm ya know?

It is here. Part of ISO certifaction is network integrity, and office carbon production. You are forgetting corporations have to pay for carbon credits now.

ISO, the International Organization for Standardization, is one step closer to finalizing its new energy management standard, ISO 50001. In July, the organization approved a Draft International Standard for the energy management system, which is based on common elements found in ISO's management system standards. As such, the new standard will be highly compatible with ISO 9001 (quality management) and ISO 14001 (environmental management).

 

[Heavy_MG]

ahhh, no the cpu is powered from the 24pin

24 pin powers the whole motherboard.
The 4 or 8 pin connector provides more power to the CPU and VRM's.

 

[Thatguy]

Ok, if you say so. You could always as W1zz, as he isolates PCIe power draw for his reviews, too. Don't take my word for it.



NO? You need to get out more...even Duke Nukem knows how strippers work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX