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AMD Charts Path for Future of its GPU Architecture

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Benetanegia

    Benetanegia New Member

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    CPUs are scalar (+ a vector unit) and GPGPU means running code that typically runs on CPU on the GPU, hence scalar is an advantage for a wider range of code.

    Both future architectures from AMD and Nvidia are going to be scalar + vector. For AMD it's the arch in the OP. For Nvidia I'm not sure if it was kepler or Maxwell, but in any case by 2013 both companies will be there.
     
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    Then AMD's use of APUs is just as useless. It operates on exactly the same principles.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Currently, for me, it is useless.

    Until we get games that take advantage of what's offered, to me, APUs are nothing more than a XBOX360.

    I mean, what does sandybridge on Z68 offer? It'll do the same acceleration that discrete cards can, but...that's it?

    Unless it offers me a better gaming experience, I don't care.

    They can't run CUDA, Intel's SandyBridge and AMD's APUs both, so I don't get any game benefits, such a Phys-X; so why would I be interested?
     
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    Then why come in here spreading misinformation?
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    It's not misinformation. It's my opinion. If CUDA was opened to those other platforms, then there might be reason to be interested, hence it hurting the consumer.

    I mean, if there was a real APU with an nVidia GPU, that'd be great, but because alot of these chips are intended for desktops, and is you want better 3D performance than what an AMD APU or SB offers, the AMD APU's paired with an AMD GPU are going to be the very best option, performance wise.

    But I can't get Phsy-x on that high-performance option...

    We know AMD isn't going ot be there on the software side; it's up to the dev's to decide to implement the technologies, but at the same time, when it comes to gmaing, nV is going to be pushing thier options, and that doesn't help.
     
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    It is misinformation when without CUDA, we would not have these new APUs, as there would be no interest in this form of computing. CUDA did not hurt consumers, period. It drove an entire market into being, which is producing new open standards. That is the very definition of good for consumers.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    OK, sure. But with AMD's GPUs following closer and closer to nV's solutions, it makes far less sense for nV to restrict thier software to thier chips alone.

    THAT doesn't help anyone, but them.
     
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    They are also developing for the open standards, so your point is irrelevant. Sure, it helps only them, but it doesn't hurt anyone in the process.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Thanks for your opinion.;)


    :laugh:
     
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    No, it's a fact. CUDA benefiting nV is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. The topic at hand is whether or not it hurts consumers. Benefiting nV does not automatically equal harming consumers. It does not, becasue nV still fully supports the open standards as well.
     
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    No, actually, the topic is what AMD is doing with thier GPUs.:p I'd like to see them run CUDA, but it's not gonna happen. CUDA sucks.:p
     
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    At least it sucks less than Stream. :D
     
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    Would this be an implementation that you would consider useful?

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/somasegar/archive/2011/06/15/targeting-heterogeneity-with-c-amp-and-ppl.aspx

    And, forgive my ignorance here, but wouldn't this also render Cuda somewhat obsolete?
     
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    Damn_Smooth says thanks.
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    I really don't know enough to pretend that I know what I'm talking about yet, so thank's for explaining that to me.
     

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