AMD FX-9590 + MSI GAMING 970

[newtekie1]

FX-6xxx wotn perform any better than your 1100t.
Get a better GPU first

At stock you are correct, but overclocked the FX wins. The 1100t is already pretty close to the max for a Phenom x6, you might be able to push it to 3.6 maybe 3.8GHz if he's lucky with his current cooler. While the FX-6300 should be able to hit 4.8GHz, possibly 5.0GHz with his setup. Piledriver was about 10% slower in IPC than Thuban, and a 1GHz higher clock speed is about 20% higher clock, so the FX will perform better than the Phenom x6. It isn't a huge jump, but it is something.

 

[Potatoking]

I used to have 1090t and it clocked to 4.2 easy, 4.4 with custom loop.I also had one FX6300 that couldn't handle over 4GHz on all cores.
Its a game of chance.
If OP really needs more CPU power he has to go for Intel.
switching to overclocked 4970K will give maybe 20% gaming performance
270x to gtx970 will give almost 100% additional performance...

 

[newtekie1]

I used to have 1090t and it clocked to 4.2 easy, 4.4 with custom loop.

Sure, under custom water I can see that. But I'm talking in the situation of the OP with his cooler Yes, he has an AIO, but his AIO doesn't really perform any better than a tower style air cooler(and is actually outperformed by some air coolers).

FX6300 that couldn't handle over 4GHz on all cores.

With a decent cooler I call shenanigans on that. Unless it was in an absolute shit motherboard.

Its a game of chance.

Sure it is, but you'd have to get really unlucky to get an FX-6300 that bad. For a CPU to not even be able to get to its boost clocks is kind of unbelievable.

If OP really needs more CPU power he has to go for Intel.
switching to overclocked 4970K will give maybe 20% gaming performance

Sure, and speed $600 for that, or go for a $100 upgrade to get 10%+. If he is upgrading and wants to upgrade his CPU, then the FX-6300 is a good choice for the money.

270x to gtx970 will give almost 100% additional performance...

I agree, his money is better spent on a GTX970. Be he already said he is looking to upgrade is GPU as well. This thread is about his CPU upgrade.

 

[landstad]

Then obviously you should get the Gigabyte GV-N980X3WA-4GD GTX 980. And for a limited time only, you get a Free Acer 27” G-Sync Monitor with purchase.

That way out of the money ball park..

 

[Johan45]

I think where the FX benefits in gaming is the newer instruction sets. My 6350 even with a 1.3GHz advantage still couldn't top my 1090T scores in cinebench.
http://hwbot.org/submission/2591774_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_phenom_ii_x6_1090t_be_8.98_points
http://hwbot.org/submission/2809989_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_8.38_points

I game with a 9370 at 4.7 with a GTX 770 and haven't had any issues with it yet. I play FPS for the most part and I know there are some games that are terribly coded out there that run on one core but not all of them are like that. I had my 6350 on an M5A99FX before I swapped and it worked jut as well at 4.6 with air cooling.

 

[landstad]

At stock you are correct, but overclocked the FX wins. The 1100t is already pretty close to the max for a Phenom x6, you might be able to push it to 3.6 maybe 3.8GHz if he's lucky with his current cooler. While the FX-6300 should be able to hit 4.8GHz, possibly 5.0GHz with his setup. Piledriver was about 10% slower in IPC than Thuban, and a 1GHz higher clock speed is about 20% higher clock, so the FX will perform better than the Phenom x6. It isn't a huge jump, but it is something.

I have 3,7ghz clock on the thuban now tho..

Okey thanks..

 

[m0nt3]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=203

About the best comparison I can find. The FX 6300 I think would have a slight edge in gaming after overclock.

 

[landstad]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=203

About the best comparison I can find. The FX 6300 I think would have a slight edge in gaming after overclock.

As i can see on that test is not that much of a diffrence tho, if i was going to buy fx6 it had to be fx 6350 i think.. But im stuck on wanting to buy the 8370 be

 

[m0nt3]

No point in the 6350 an extra cost for a few hundred MHz difference. Since the FX6300 has an unlocked multi you could easily bump it to the equivalent of a 6350.

 

[landstad]

Okey..ty

 

[m0nt3]

For a comparison a FX 8320 vs 6300 same 3.5 GHz no difference in gaming performance (at least in the games listed) Something like BF multi-player may have a difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=699

 

[landstad]

For a comparison a FX 8320 vs 6300 same 3.5 GHz no difference in gaming performance (at least in the games listed) Something like BF multi-player may have a difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=699

Is it comfied that the 8370e clocks better than 8370 4ghz version? Asked earlyer but dindt get satisfied with answear.

 

[m0nt3]

Not likely, the 8370e runs at a lower clock speed with slightly lower voltage, but has the same turbo speed. If you are still talking about using the MSI 970 board, then you wil not get far with overclocking anyway. The VRM will not be able to handle it.

 

[landstad]

Not likely, the 8370e runs at a lower clock speed with slightly lower voltage, but has the same turbo speed. If you are still talking about using the MSI 970 board, then you wil not get far with overclocking anyway. The VRM will not be able to handle it.

I have two fans on the vrm now tho, able to keep the vrm under 50c on full load

 

[m0nt3]

Not with an overclocked FX8000 series CPU, not enough power phases. If it could handle it, then MSI would list the 9370 and 9590 as compatible. An attempt could end up killing your motherboard and CPU.

 

[landstad]

Not with an overclocked FX8000 series CPU, not enough power phases. If it could handle it, then MSI would list the 9370 and 9590 as compatible. An attempt could end up killing your motherboard and CPU.

I see...

 

[landstad]

qoute from:
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mother...AM3-Gets-Something-New-Change/Power-and-Overc

"This board would actually complement AMD’s 95 watt TDP parts very well. I could easily see this pushing the FX-6350 quite nicely and at a relatively low bundled price."


Wich board would be good for ocing the Fx8000 series tho ?
Or i could just buy the Fx-8000series (one of them)

and not overclock at all. just keep it stock

Or buy a new mb and go for 9590.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Well my vote goes for the Gigabyte 990Fxa-UD3 rev 4. Very overclock friendly and accepts the 9590. I have 3 of the boards and all have been totally great. All are running oc'd 8350's at 100% load 24/7/365 and never a hiccup one.

 

[landstad]

How

Well my vote goes for the Gigabyte 990Fxa-UD3 rev 4. Very overclock friendly and accepts the 9590. I have 3 of the boards and all have been totally great. All are running oc'd 8350's at 100% load 24/7/365 and never a hiccup one.

how is the vrm doing? What cooler do you use? What do you use them for?

 

[landstad]

How

how is the vrm doing? What cooler do you use? What do you use them for?

How is this board your talking about compared to sabertooth and asrock and v formula?

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Gigabyte updated the vrm cooling on the rev 4 boards to use a heatpipe design and they run nice and cool. All three are using Aio's h110i, Enermax Liqtech 240 and the third is a Gamer Storm Maelstorm 240. The crunch WCG.

I have no experience with the other boards but I would myself put it right up there with and i truly feel it is the best bang for the buck for a Am3+ board. The first one has been running and crunching going on 3 yrs now.

 

[landstad]

Gigabyte updated the vrm cooling on the rev 4 boards to use a heatpipe design and they run nice and cool. All three are using Aio's h110i, Enermax Liqtech 240 and the third is a Gamer Storm Maelstorm 240. The crunch WCG.

Okey. Did you see my last post?

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Yes and edited my post to answer.

For $110 at Newegg you are not going to beat it.


I'll put it like this, you can see all the rigs I use for crunching in my sig. Now my main rig is listed under system specs (Selene). That should tell you something.

 

[m0nt3]

I would also vote for the Gigabyte 990fxa-ud3, although I have the sabertooth, I recently did a build with the gigabyte board and was pretty impressed for its price, but make sure its a newer revision as stated.

 

[suraswami]

I have the UD3, I would not buy it again.