AMD FX OC'ers Club

nt300 · Nov 22, 2011

Any type of vcore change sounds like cool and quiet is enabled or something like that. It soundds like this throttling issue is causing benchmarks to score lower than it should. I don't see why AMD don't release a cpu firmware update to fix this because mobo's aree taking too long.

fullinfusion · Nov 22, 2011

well I bit the bullet and ordered the 8150 this morning. should have it by friday

nt300 · Nov 23, 2011

fullinfusion said:
well I bit the bullet and ordered the 8150 this morning. should have it by friday

Bulldozer runs Skyrim like a charm.

erocker · Nov 23, 2011

nt300 said:
Any type of vcore change sounds like cool and quiet is enabled or something like that. It soundds like this throttling issue is causing benchmarks to score lower than it should. I don't see why AMD don't release a cpu firmware update to fix this because mobo's aree taking too long.

It's definitely not throttling. This chip scores lower in benchmarks due to it's awful single threaded archetecture.

fullinfusion said:
well I bit the bullet and ordered the 8150 this morning. should have it by friday

Darn, should of talked to me first. :ohwell:

cadaveca · Nov 23, 2011

erocker said:
It's definitely not throttling. This chip scores lower in benchmarks due to it's awful single threaded archetecture.

My chip throttles at stock. In fact, without the option to disable APM, the best I can get is 3800 on 2 cores, while the other two sit at 1400 MHz. With the chip supposedly a 3600MHz part without turbo, I'm not very impressed.

And this problem is present on almost every board out there. Disable APM, and it's a different story.

I do have screenshots, too...if I could find my damn usb key! :laugh:

I'm currently dealing with an OEM about this specific issue, actually. I have a review basically ready to go..waiting on OEM response. I've been told it's not normal, but noone has a fix for me yet.

erocker · Nov 23, 2011

cadaveca said:
without the option to disable APM

But why no option?!

cadaveca · Nov 23, 2011

erocker said:
But why no option?!

Very few boards have the option. Why? I'm trying to find out, but I have suspicions. APM is "Advanced Power Management", which, currently is broken, and makes chips throttle when they shouldn't, even when power consumption is below thresholds.

Fact of the matter is, as far as I am concerned, there's no reason for the chip to behave this way. I understand why and when it should throttle, but throttle is occuring long before it should. And that behavior shouldn't be an issue, at all, considering what I've seen.

Unfortunately, the only way to avoid it that I have found is to disable APM, so I blame APM, but it could be some other weird bug for all I know. APM should only be an issue when overclocking, not for stock operation.

erocker · Nov 23, 2011

Crosshair V has an APM option. Mine is disabled and my CPU doesn't throttle. Either way.. what a bunch of lameness. :ohwell:

cadaveca · Nov 23, 2011

erocker said:
what a bunch of lameness.

I hear ya. :laugh:

CPU is pulling 72W in that screenshot, BTW. If it was 110W, I could understand, but it seems APM won't even let it get that high, and my temps are good!

fullinfusion · Nov 24, 2011

erocker said:
It's definitely not throttling. This chip scores lower in benchmarks due to it's awful single threaded archetecture.

Darn, should of talked to me first.

I tried but never got a reply. I believe its just going to take a bit of time for things to work them selves out with this chip. I remember the X6 and the problems it had for the first few months.

fullinfusion · Nov 24, 2011

Purolator was just leaving as me and the wife came back home from a Timmies run.
I almost missed out for today but this is what he left me.

Any hints or tricks I should set up in the bios?

de.das.dude · Nov 24, 2011

can anyone show me a screenie of what the prime95 error of a bad core looks like? i wana know if any of my cores is borking first.

CDdude55 · Nov 24, 2011

de.das.dude said:
can anyone show me a screenie of what the prime95 error of a bad core looks like? i wana know if any of my cores is borking first.

I believe Prime 95 would just stop loading that particular core up and show an general error on that particular thread/core like so:

I'm not sure if Prime 95 actually tells you a core is bad, most software won't say such things usually.

AphexDreamer · Nov 25, 2011

So I ended up getting the FX 6100 Black Edition to replace my Phenom II 965.

Any comments?

Should I return it or keep it?

fullinfusion · Nov 25, 2011

^ id keep it. Im happy with my 8150... despite what benchmarks show slower the real numbers are in how it feels in regular useage

Damn_Smooth · Nov 25, 2011

fullinfusion said:
^ id keep it. Im happy with my 8150... despite what benchmarks show slower the real numbers are in how it feels in regular useage

Are you sure that's not a placebo? or from a fresh install or something? I'm not trying to argue because I haven't used it, I'm just curious.

Zubasa · Nov 25, 2011

Damn_Smooth said:
fullinfusion said:

^ id keep it. Im happy with my 8150... despite what benchmarks show slower the real numbers are in how it feels in regular useage

Click to expand...

Are you sure that's not a placebo? or from a fresh install or something? I'm not trying to argue because I haven't used it, I'm just curious.

Modern day CPUs are fast enough for 99% of the tasks people do with their computer, so it is really hard to tell the difference.

AphexDreamer · Nov 25, 2011

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fullinfusion said:
^ id keep it. Im happy with my 8150... despite what benchmarks show slower the real numbers are in how it feels in regular useage

I got it for $108 with tax, would I be better off selling it for a profit unopened? Is it even much of an upgrade from my 965?

Zubasa · Nov 25, 2011

AphexDreamer said:
I got it for $108 with tax, would I be better of selling it for a profit unopened? Is it even much of an upgrade from my 965?

Well at lease on the memory side it is, you should get mcuh better results with your ripjaws compare to your 965.
CPU wise, that depends on what you do with it and how far you can clock the chip.

AphexDreamer · Nov 25, 2011

Zubasa said:
Well at lease on the memory side it is, you should get mcuh better results with your ripjaws compare to your 965.
CPU wise, that depends on what you do with it and how far you can clock the chip.

Was hoping someone would have fist hand experience with it. I reckon if I can get it too 4.0Ghz (seeing how it does 3.9 on turbo). It would exceed my 965 no?

Zubasa · Nov 25, 2011

AphexDreamer said:
Was hoping someone would have fist hand experience with it. I reckon if I can get it too 4.0Ghz (seeing how it does 3.9 on turbo). It would exceed my 965 no?

Clock for clock per "core" the Bulldozer is slightly slower than the Phenom II.

Daimus · Nov 25, 2011

AphexDreamer said:
Was hoping someone would have fist hand experience with it. I reckon if I can get it too 4.0Ghz (seeing how it does 3.9 on turbo). It would exceed my 965 no?

FX-6100 can run at 4,5 without voltage bump. Of course it exceed PII 965.

Super XP · Nov 25, 2011

Picking up a AMD FX-8120 next week

Bloody things have been selling well, but I refused to buy it for more than AMD's recommendation. Finally the price went down.

Daimus · Nov 25, 2011

Super XP said:
Picking up a AMD FX-8120 next week

My congratulations :toast:

Super XP · Nov 25, 2011

Daimus said:
My congratulations

Thanks, now I need to pay $15 to get my motherboard bios updated for me. Beats buying a AM3 CPU just to update the bios.

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