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AMD Readies Faster Phenom II X6 Models, New Fast Quad-Core Chip

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  1. btarunr

    btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    After AMD's recent mass-release of Athlon II and Phenom II series processors that included the Phenom II X6 1070T Black Edition priced at around $250, AMD is working on a new flagship processor that's even faster than the Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition (the current flagship), given the model number Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition (surprise!), and as always, it's yet another speed-bump. This chip is based on the 45 nm Thuban die, and is clocked a whole 100 MHz faster, at 3.30 GHz, with a Turbo Core frequency of 3.70 GHz. Surprisingly, it retains its TDP rating of 125W. As with every other chip based on this die, it features six cores with 128 KB L1, 512 KB L2 dedicated caches, and 6 MB L3 shared cache, it comes in the AM3 package and is backwards compatible with AM2+, supporting dual-channel DDR3-1333 and DDR2-1066 memory standards.

    The 1100T Black Edition isn't the only new Phenom II series member down the line, there's the Phenom II X6 1065T (2.90 GHz, non-BE, 3.40 GHz Turbo); the slower Phenom II X6 1045T (2.50 GHz, non-BE, 3.20 GHz Turbo), and the company's next fastest quad-core chip, the Phenom II X4 975 (3.60 GHz, Deneb). It's not known whether the X4-975 is a Black Edition SKU.

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    Source: Xbit Labs
     
  2. TheMailMan78

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    1100T=rip off IMO. I own a 1090T but wish I went 1055.
     
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    But all these new models just help drive the price down on the 1055t and 1090t so overall maybe not beneficial from an upgrade standpoint - it's good price wise. I'm just waiting now for those 6000 series GPU to come out - (let W1zzard give his thumbs up review) and I'll be ready to order.
    Rock on AMD! :toast:
     
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    Really i think the 1100T would be good value at 3.6ghz with 4ghz turbo if you did not intend to overclock but thats never going to happen, same with the X4-975 it would be nice at 3.8ghz or even 4ghz but i think both would be near impossible to bin enough of them that would get there without over 1.4v so proberley pushing over 140w.

    For the most part the top end phenoms are not that great value as most of the slightly cheeper ones will clock just as high, the only reason i have a 965 is because i wanted the c3 revision and it was the only one avalible at the time.
     
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    i wonder if anyone sees where amd is going and has been doing for the last couple of years.

    most if not all of these chips are compatible with new and older mobos and are both

    ddr3 and ddr2 compatible! not to sh*t on anyone or anything like that but they just

    increased their customer base by a huge margin! imho amd just made it easier for non

    enthusiates and enthusiates alike to choose for either an upgrade or new bundeled

    machine.almost no guess work. just pick a chip and board and go.+1 for AMD!:rockout:
     
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    Phenom II X6 1070T Black Edition sounds good out of all the high end BE's. Cheapest BE that'll most likely do the same clocks.
     
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    My asus m3a32-mvp has had a 2.2ghz dual core athlon (pulled out of an old foxconn board), a 2.5ghz phenom quad and now has a 3.4ghz phenom ii quad, its a big part of why i am still with amd and have not gone for a more powerful i7, i think this is the first time i have ever had a board that has supported me through so many cpu upgrades and i have spent a long time considering getting an x6 to put in it but i can't find a good reason to do so although the cheeper x6 phenoms are very tempting still.
     
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    need i say more?:pimp:
     
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    This is just great news, period.
     
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    Not suprised.

    For the 1090T 3.6GHz is the G spot. I think Amd is just wasting money with these newer cpus. One hundred MHz big deal. I think the 1055T is the cpu to get because of the price and how well it Oc's.
     
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    Exactly my point, it is so easy to bump any amd processor by 100mhz and normally several hundred mhz that there is little point getting the top end model, if i was to get an x6 to put in my current board there is no way i would get an 1100T be.
     
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    AMD is just addressing the market. While many of these new processors are trivial to the enthusiast crowd- many people do not like to take the time to tinker with overclocking or are afraid they might fry something
     
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    I admit yes the faster the better for those who don't like to overclock thus why i said a little faster would be nicer without the overclocking but binning them would proberley be hard to get the numbers required.
     
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    too late to start saturation kinda hate this. there is no need for 970 should have just did 975 i could have told u about the 1100 saw that coming a ways off.
     
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    True but bulldozer is still a way off, people looking to upgrade an am2/3 board who don't want to overclock will proberley buy the faster quad or x6 if thy want the most power without an oc.
     
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    Waste of cash IMO, Im waiting for the Bull Dozer....
     
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    Everyone keeps saying "Why would I buy the faster one if I can just overclock the slower one to the same speed?"

    If I'm not mistaken, the reason why people buy the faster Black Edition processors is so that they have a greater likelyhood of clocking higher, yes? I mean, there's a reason they don't unlock the multiplier on a binned processor. Of course they're not all binned processors, but still.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Well, I can say that my current 965BE is the worst AM3 chip I've had...550, 555, 955, all clocked better.

    Of course, I had one 965BE that clocked better than all the others, but my current cpu stands as the perfect example as to how buying the "best" doesn't mean that's exactly what you are gonna get...

    I think that rings true on releases of products, but I am not really surprised my 965 isn't so good...with 970 and 975 coming, 965 isn't the top dog any more. Alot of factors play into where "the best" chips really are.
     
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    the 1075t in the US has been found to be non-BE, its stupid how some retailers listed it w/ the pic of the 1090t (I know the packaging is the same, amd puts a sticker to seal the box and identify which model it is), and lo-and-behold someone got one and it was purple package like the 1055t, not worth it for an extra $50 usd over the 1055t. Some 1055t have dropped too. Im going w/ an intel in a few months. Amd no longer seems best bang for your buck imo, when an i7 950 is selling for less than a 1090t.
     
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    I think to some extend every amd processor is binned as everything from the phenom II 975 down to the phenom II dual cores all use the exact same die just binned for different speeds/cores, and in theory the 975 are the higest binned now but i think the (semi) main reason to get the top end is if you dont want to oc but of corse also many people get the B.E phenioms is to oc as far as possible hoping that the higher binning (normally higer speeds without too high a voltage) will clock at 4ghz or above.
     
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    yes i hate that too it makes no since to even mouth it. People dont realized that the default speed with the SAME required voltage is 100 and somtimes 200 mhz higher then the last chip. You could OC to "simulate" but even that is not a simulation. Because you in turn do the same thing with the newer chip to go with the same settings. Then ppl scratch there head.

    Unfortunately none of these things are "green minded" Any advancement they make is us turning it right back up. When u buy black u OC the end there is no point in wasting money on a black even if the defaults are higher if u arent going to oc this means u aren't doing anything with your computer that's useful or even requires a chip like this. You are wasting your money. Also you cant use a gas/brake (either or) mentality when it comes to ocing. there is an rolling (in between) also bumping the multiplier without touching the voltage twice or even 3 times is fine. If you aren't interested in doing that and just Name dropping when it comes to your system "oh yeah i got a black edition but u dont even oc it" then i duno wot to tell u lol in either case u are wasting your money and its not your market.

    As far are ppl upgrading to a chip with the highest possible clock with no oc they are still wasting there money. I understand where u are coming from but it dosnt really make much since when paying that amount for a proc. atleast on anything but dual 4XX Save your pennies for something new.
     
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    socket compatibility is a massive boon, i know someone who needs a PC in a hurry so he's getting a very budget low end athlon II x2 system now - but even this budget $50 mobo supports thuban 6 core CPU's, so later on he intends to get a better CPU and video card, and make a gaming system out of it.
     
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    These 100Mhz clock increases are stupid. The only way this is worth it is if it lowers the price of the 1090T drastically, then comes in at below current 1090T prices. 1090 is already overpriced as it is.

    This and the new 970 are completely stupid.

    They are just dumping their stock of silicon.
     
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    don't for get you can upgrade on that board and the M3A79t-Deluxe to x6 cpu`s.that leads to my problem right now do i wait for the 1090BE to drop in price or run the PH2 x4 965 BE and buy the 6970 gpu ??? so many choices with AMD now.
     
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    Personally I like these new chips but I really think 1055T is the way to go. That is what I am going to get if not the new AMD Chips when they come out. I love how they maintain backwards compatibility. I just finished my nephews pc build and use my old Gigabyte MA 790X board and they have a ton of bios updates. I went with f9 because the f10 is beta and he didnt need it. That f9 supports new cpuids like the Phenom II X6 line. Got to love that.
     

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