I thought we like banned the words "fan boy".. Well.. we should..lol.. I just want accurate numbers. Nvidia and Ati, don't pay me to advertise. I just had a 5850 but I want to try the 680.. green or red? idc.. honestly.. This "out of stock" issue, with the 6 series, is f'n dumb though.. To me, it simply makes sense, to want Ati, to have a card, as good or better, than Nvidias line. Consumer wins.. That's all I care about.. Amazes me, how worked up, people get over this stuff. I hope the new line, kicks ass and everyone who has a card, they pay top dollar for, enjoys it. Preferrably, without coming back, the the forums, to say "ahahaha your drivers are messed up", or something equally rude.. 7970 is still, a great card, at an attrative price.